EFRAIMSON joins Pete Julian’s group!!!

I wish Pete would keep the politics off the damn feed. I look at his page for running photos, not Orange Man Bad constantly.

We get it, you're triggered.

Anti-antifa wrote:

I wish Pete would keep the politics off the damn feed. I look at his page for running photos, not Orange Man Bad constantly.

We get it, you're triggered.

pot meet kettle

Yawn

I think she would have been better off competing in the NCAA for at least a little bit. If she won an NCAA title as well as her fast time she would seem like a bigger deal to me. She has run fast, but is generally irrelevant because she hasn't been much of a contender at the US championship races like Shelby, Karissa, Molly Huddle, Jenny Simpson, etc... Her skipping college has made her fairly irrelevant for a while. Her best finish at US championships is 6th, which is great, but irrelevant when people are talking about who wins or is top 3 making a U.S. team. Rather been talked about as former NCAA champion from bla bla bla school or U.S. 1500 meter champion from some year, instead she is talked about as someone with some generic PR and that's about it.

Well, I think in retrospect, forgoing college to turn pro didn't end up being the promising path forward that many believed it might be when Mary Cain did it. Obviously we know what happened to Mary Cain, but Efraimson ended up in no-man's land for a while, while her contemporaries Allie Ostrander, Karissa Schweitzer, and Elise Cranny built up exciting college careers.

This isn't a girl thing either. I'm not sure what Drew Hunter is doing. Alan Webb didn't really start to post up good results until years after he left college.

Ultimately, it's hard to say what path is best. But Alexa left high school running as a senior. There was a quote from a coach basically saying "At some point Alexa racing high schoolers isn't good for her and it isn't good for them." I was bothered by this because Alexa WAS a high schooler. She was their age. True, running alone and winning races by a lot at local levels isn't beneficial. But she still could have raced her peers on a national level than being left to train alone and not really have a path forward, idk.

Future isn't always easy to predict. At that moment in time, it seemed the best decision to make to accept a Nike contract and pursue a pro career.

These athletes who go pro early are still able to get college degrees. They don't miss out on the experience, they just can't compete in NCAA.

Also, they are making way more money than in NCAA (where the athletes are not even allowed to take money) and can save so much from the pro Nike contract that they will never have to worry about money anymore in the future. That's a huge plus point for someone who plans to do running as career choice, since income is very volatile and never guaranteed.

For the development of her as a runner, it is hard to evaluate if and how much she would have been faster as NCAA competitor. One thing that happened and affected her running performance was that she kept growing after she set her huge HS PRs as a runner that was already very tall to begin with. Also her weight kept fluctuating in her late teens. People on LRC still don't get how a female body develops over time/the late teen years and that it can be a big deal. These things would have happened regardless if she chose NCAA or pro-running career, and probably had more to do with her not being able to continue setting PRs year after year after year.

She is still young and is still running strong, people here make her seem like she faded completely like Mary Cain when it's super far away from the truth. She still has the chances to make an US Olympic team, and people should not be too surprised if she actually pulls it off!

Sorry, but that doesn't really play. Maybe if she was taking big wins like Leo or Symmonds, despite slower times and inconsistencies. But as it stands, her marks are her marks. My point was that she has ~50 races over 6 seasons that spell a very clear picture of where's she's plateaued.

The poster I responded to stated: "Since she’s been consistently in the 4:03-4:04 range multiple times a season pretty much ever season." That statement is factually false on both accounts. I'm not trying to discredit Alexa's talent, competitive ability or even speed potential. I hope Julian can wring out the true potential and get her down to 4:00 and DL competitive shape.

4:03 at 18 was extraordinarily good and while she has run well and stable it is not the best sign that she has not improved on that time in 5 years (note that Koko and Hull got to 3:59 and 4:02 *before* joining NOP).

at 18

Efraimson 4:03, Koko 4:09, Hull 4:20

at 20

Efraimson 4:04, Koko 3:59, Hull 4:13

at 22

Efraimson 4:04, Koko 3:59, Hull 4:02 (a year later 4:00.42 about a month before her 24th birthday)

So it’s looks like she is ready for a break through - she stayed relatively healthy through her growth spurt anjustee to her body and stayed consistent - it seems that’s better than most elite hs athletes can say at 22. So hopefully she gets to work with the her teammates and gets that break through

The last official season, 2019 she ran 4:04.53 in Shanghai, then three days later ran 4:04.06 (Olympic A Standard). She was leading the US at this point

Has there ever been an American female who has done this?

For the second time in her career, an injury came up 2 weeks later, ruining her chance of making the team in 2019. So she had a medical procedure done and came back 2 months later to get third at the Pan American games. 23 years old. Puberty made things challenging for her, you could see it in her body weight fluctuation. Last year she looked to be past it.

This is an ignorant statement. The hormones of women 18-23 are going through immense changes. Look at all the women, who have failed at making this transition. Coach Hickey did a great job keeping her in the game. Where is Mary Cain?

Well “Oregon Coach”, we must have a lot of bad coaches in America then. She ran faster than all High School girls in American history. In addition, there has only been one female NCAA athlete (Jenny Simpson) to run faster.

2019 she ran faster Hull and Sinclaire! You should change your login name, because you sound ignorant.