Who did it better? Pre 5th 72 olympic vs Jacob 5th world championship

SDSU Aztec wrote:

beachbum wrote:

Pre wouldn't care that you knocked him, because who are you?

Pre was the best, and if Viren didn't dope, Pre wins 5k even with Bowerman's racing strategy, which didn't work well for Pre but did work well for Dellinger in '64.

Pre pushed so hard to pass Viren on the backstretch that he went past the effort sustainable, even for Pre.

However, I agree with Bowerman that if Pre would have stayed behind until the 200m and then kicked, Pre wins the gold against cheating Viren.

Do you think Jacob and the others in that race were not on PEDs?

No, Virin was better and there was no way Pre would have beaten him. Whether Pre was trying to pass him or not, Virin was putting him under some serious stress. However, if Pre had not chased after Virin and Gammoudi, the Bronze was a possibility.

I believe Virin was in about 13:10/27:20 shape for those Olympics and could have won with any strategy besides a last lap kick off of a slow pace.

ohhoyoko wrote:

stan the corgi wrote:

It was either poor coaching by Dellinger or Pre's hard headedness that put him in 4th. Back then, people weren't as privy to as much information as now.

This.

As a foreigner, I never quite could understand the Pre - fixation. Still don't

I saw the 72 Olympics live from the stands at the 1500 start about 4 rows from the rail. and he was handled comfortably by the guys who won. Ran a silly race and lost 3rd.

Perhaps if he'd had time to mature and grow he'd have been a super star. But he didn't.

But that was just about the stupidest tactic in a race I can imagine. I can understand the leading, but they roll by him at 800 to go, and instead of settling he goes back to the front.

More balls than brains. But tactically inept against the real elite.

A lot of athletes got left on the cutting room floor due to injury or timing. In his case it was self inflicted.