There's nothing weird about his HR. The only thing that's weird is that he's running that slow.
Just checked my own Strava for my HR on my slowest runs. Looks like when I'm in the 8-8:30 range my HR is about 110-115. I'm not a pro runner.
There's nothing weird about his HR. The only thing that's weird is that he's running that slow.
Just checked my own Strava for my HR on my slowest runs. Looks like when I'm in the 8-8:30 range my HR is about 110-115. I'm not a pro runner.
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he was pacing True Love
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Heart rate is super genetically determined.
Look up Lionel Sanders. I think he ran a 15 minute 5k recently and his heart rate maybe got to the high 140's?
Portland Hobby Jogger wrote:
Oh, baby! Maybe for an additional $3.99 per month, SJD subscribers can get a buttered toast emoji shaped like a heart that beats really slowly? Clearly, he was doing his run in some new prototype super flat that only weighs 4.5 ounces since anything over 8 ounces in his size is hot garbage akin to wearing cinder blocks.
I'm sure he appreciates you watching his videos.
How does a good runner even run a 9 min pace ? So slow he must not attain any type of conditioning from it . Maybe on a cool down after a race 9 min mile runs are justified but man come on . Keep it around 730
dr no wrote:
How does a good runner even run a 9 min pace ? So slow he must not attain any type of conditioning from it . Maybe on a cool down after a race 9 min mile runs are justified but man come on . Keep it around 730
Haha wait until you are 56 and see what 9 minute pace feels like.
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coloradocrybaby wrote:
Hold up is this same guy that was crying when Joe Gray smashed his FKt because he couldn't go to Golden trail champs? Give me a break. Stop making posts about yourself dude. Honestly HR monitors on wrist are completely bogus. I did a tempo once and it said I was 125avg and I could taste blood the entire way, so clearly...
Tasting blood on a tempo? Glad you're not my coach.
Obviously hr isn’t the be all end all, especially on a wrist strap, but I’m impressed by the numbers. I can barely go 7:00 pace without going over 165bpm. That’s on an Apple Watch though. My pbs are 1:50 and 3:47. So not as aerobic as this obviously but not a bad runner either. Very much dependent on the person.
Greghet wrote:
Obviously hr isn’t the be all end all, especially on a wrist strap, but I’m impressed by the numbers. I can barely go 7:00 pace without going over 165bpm. That’s on an Apple Watch though. My pbs are 1:50 and 3:47. So not as aerobic as this obviously but not a bad runner either. Very much dependent on the person.
this is true....while i was at adams state i had a resting HR of 32-35, and max HR of 220's....but a very low V02. although i had a great HR range my problem was i got up to 180 HR too fast and couldnt maintain it.
i remember doing "lappers" and mile repeats at cole park and coach martin would have us check our HR after each set, if we got above 12 in 15 seconds we had to sit a set out. i was always 15-16.
so after a few lappers or 3 mile repeats i was toast. he then just had me to every other. i was super fit, 105lbs 3.5% body fat, resting HR of 35 and could eventually do the mile repeats at 4:18 (at 7554ft)....too bad it was only 3 repeats instead of 6, so i was getting 7-8 min rest or so. thats talent for you....no matter how hard i tried i never could keep my HR and lactic acid from climbing super high....still a 4:18 at altitude was pretty good i thought
bannned i got wrote:
Greghet wrote:
Obviously hr isn’t the be all end all, especially on a wrist strap, but I’m impressed by the numbers. I can barely go 7:00 pace without going over 165bpm. That’s on an Apple Watch though. My pbs are 1:50 and 3:47. So not as aerobic as this obviously but not a bad runner either. Very much dependent on the person.
this is true....while i was at adams state i had a resting HR of 32-35, and max HR of 220's....but a very low V02. although i had a great HR range my problem was i got up to 180 HR too fast and couldnt maintain it.
i remember doing "lappers" and mile repeats at cole park and coach martin would have us check our HR after each set, if we got above 12 in 15 seconds we had to sit a set out. i was always 15-16.
so after a few lappers or 3 mile repeats i was toast. he then just had me to every other. i was super fit, 105lbs 3.5% body fat, resting HR of 35 and could eventually do the mile repeats at 4:18 (at 7554ft)....too bad it was only 3 repeats instead of 6, so i was getting 7-8 min rest or so. thats talent for you....no matter how hard i tried i never could keep my HR and lactic acid from climbing super high....still a 4:18 at altitude was pretty good i thought
If he is using Coach Vigil's course, it is not a full mile but "adjusted" in length to mimic a mile at sea level.
Seppo Kaitenenn wrote:
3). He's using a wrist-based HR monitor which is inaccurate.
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As a non sequitur, my wrist hr picks up my cadence, not my hr. Maybe his stride length is 1.8 m and he runs like an astronaut on the moon.
I almost never take my HR, but I do remember last year I took it by hand (check number of beats in 10 seconds then multiply by 6) the day before running a marathon in 2:23. It was 105-ish immediately finishing a 5 mile run at 7:20/mi pace. So this HR seems totally normal to me.
He trains at an effort that allows him to comfortably say "winner winner chicken dinner".
Vastly superior to heart rate training.
But seriously, he's a pretty fast guy. 9:00 pace would barely elevate his heart rate.
just curious - do you believe your apple watch pacing to be accurate? My apple watch 5 says I'm running around 15-20 seconds faster than my old garmin 230 used to read.
dr no wrote:
How does a good runner even run a 9 min pace ? So slow he must not attain any type of conditioning from it . Maybe on a cool down after a race 9 min mile runs are justified but man come on . Keep it around 730
They do it by running their hard days hard.
Run 25 miles mountain run peaking at 14,000 ft in the middle of a hard training block and you will find 9 min pace the next morning perfectly reasonable.
Run what is needed to recover and get to the next hard day, only thing forcing yourself to 730 will do is lengthen your recovery and injure you.
Regarding wrist-based heart rate: It can actually be extremely accurate. But it's very sensitive to the fit of the watch. The watch must be tight, and it must be proximal to the bony part of the wrist. This is not how most people wear watches. Also, it struggles a lot in cold weather because you have less blood flow in the shallow tissues. And it seems to vary a lot depending on the individual. Skin tone is less of an issue than it used to be, though tattoos still cause problem. They also don't respond as well to sudden changes (i.e., intervals) as chest straps, though they've improved a ton in this regard in the last few years.