I've run in nothing but racing flats for two months and...

There's very few companies making actual flats anymore, it's a shame. I've been running solely in atreyu shoes since July and it's cured my injury issues. They're the closest thing to flats I have found. Is Nike continuing the streak LT model?

EZ10Miler wrote:

Yeah the minimalist movement from about 15 years ago proved that we didn't nor did many people want those bulky stability shoes.

There were a lot of LRers talking about doing all their runs in racing flats back then.

The minimalist movement proved that this is all BS. Where are all these people now?

Anton Krupicka for example. He can't even write his blog anymore.

You need to find the right shoes for your feet. It doesn't matter how cool or uncool they are. Together with a sensible training you can run for a very long time without injuries.

I found the same thing. When I started running, I went to a running store and was told to buy stability shoes to fix my overpronation (I'm convinced they tell 95% of runners the same thing). I fully switched to racing flats after getting recurrent ITB issues, runner's knee, and ankle sprains, and they definitely helped. I've never sprained an ankle in flats, probably because of the lower stack and better feel for rocks etc. on trails.

Flats aren't a cure-all -- they shift stress to your calves and achilles, which can cause injury if you're used to a big drop. But I think it's a more natural way to run, and probably does spare your knees and hips from extra load.

Don't be fooled by thin layer of boost foam, it's equal to almost twice that in EVA

Not only does the boost last up to 1000 miles perhaps, there is a touch of stability feature in the adios which might be helping you.

I train almost exclusively in Bostons which are essentially the same as Adios with a touch more foam and without stability collar (actually I think v5 adios doesn't have the collar anymore? Unless it's been moved inside the shoe like the toe bumper?)

The beauty is Bostons are dirt cheap on clearance and last forever so 300 mile months are no problem.

I do get knee pain in the Bostons after 600 miles or so though which is how I know to stop using that pair, probably from foam compression in certain points that wears out faster but cannot be observed because boost doesn't collapse or get seams like eva.

shoe weight matters wrote:

HRE wrote:

Maybe for some people this is true. It has never been the case for me. It's cushioning more than weight that I have trouble with.

Have you tried the Vaporfly's HRE? I thought this too, but I've been pleasantly surprised that the Vaporfly's have rolled back the clock for my feet and legs. If I try to wear thick cushioned, heavier shoes, I feel the weight and don't like it. I still like thin cushioned flats, but for long runs and workouts the cushioning and lightness of the Vaporfly's make running a pleasure.

I tried a pair that my son had. Again, way too much cushioning for me. I only walked in them and nothing felt good.

running with running shoes wrote:

EZ10Miler wrote:

Yeah the minimalist movement from about 15 years ago proved that we didn't nor did many people want those bulky stability shoes.

There were a lot of LRers talking about doing all their runs in racing flats back then.

The minimalist movement proved that this is all BS. Where are all these people now?

Anton Krupicka for example. He can't even write his blog anymore.

You need to find the right shoes for your feet. It doesn't matter how cool or uncool they are. Together with a sensible training you can run for a very long time without injuries.

Sure, if you do anything in excess it will prove to be a negative. Running 200 miles a week the way he did had an impact on his running now, I am sure.