I don't understand the negativity around the Nike Tempo Next %

The problem with these shoes that nobody seems to talk about is the differing response from athlete to athlete. In the lab this can vary from 1-4%. So we are no longer seeing a level playing field even if every athlete is in them. Look at Molly Huddle, cantt wear the carbon shoes due to an ankle issue, as a result she might as well forget about the roads. Personally I would like to see a Japanese Kirin style approach, standardized equipment. We have a situation where IAAF has a list of legal shoes which currently runs into hundreds of models. How long will this list be in 10 years? 2000,3000 it's ridiculous, how is this going to be policed?

Why is this comment relevant to a discussion about a 10oz training shoe intended for up-tempo training efforts?

Weight is no longer an issue, if the mechanical gain of the technology outweighs the added weight then people could be racing in high tech 10oz shoes within a few years.

OK. This comment doesn't apply to the Tempo Next% though. The increased weight is intended for durability and a lower price point. I am not disagreeing with the overall premise of your arguement. It just has nothing to do with reviewing this shoe.

highhoppingworm wrote:

OK. This comment doesn't apply to the Tempo Next% though. The increased weight is intended for durability and a lower price point. I am not disagreeing with the overall premise of your arguement. It just has nothing to do with reviewing this shoe.

I assume he is confusing this shoe with the Next%.

Put me in the turbo 2 camp. Was a superb shoe and I'm down to my last pair.

The speeds feel closer to that with a little bit of that plate feel.

Haven't tried the tempos yet but I'm not a fan of the pods in the alphas. Maybe this will help me get used to it - will likely get a pair and try it, but for now the speeds are my every day shoe when the turbo wears out.

Have a couple runs in these. I did a 6x2k/1k at half pace, 8x1200 at 8kish pace on the track and a moderate run getting with a bulk at 6:20ish pace.

First time I put them on I was unsure about them because of their weight and they felt pretty stiff the first run. While running I didn't necessarily feel like I was running really fast either. Both the Endorphin Speed and Run Fast both feel nicer on the foot while running and feel waaaay lighter. It does feel weird running WOs in shoes this heavy.

But the results have been good so far in terms of actual pace. I got going way faster than planned on the 2ks which actually came back to bite me in the end, the 1200 workout went great, hitting 5:05 pace with easy the last couple reps (initially planned on 5:10) and the moderate run felt almost easy, which I was surprised by because my legs were pretty fatigued the day before. I still think other shoes feel better on the foot and while running, but it gets results (at least so far).

npurdy1112 wrote:

highhoppingworm wrote:

OK. This comment doesn't apply to the Tempo Next% though. The increased weight is intended for durability and a lower price point. I am not disagreeing with the overall premise of your arguement. It just has nothing to do with reviewing this shoe.

I assume he is confusing this shoe with the Next%.

He is, which should completely discredit any of his comments. High probability that he’s never even tried them on, let alone done any amount of training in either shoe.

There’s something in this comment which I’ve found too.

While for me, I love the feel of the Tempos, they don’t feel fast per se. However, when checking paces while wearing them, I’m always running significantly faster than it feels.

I seem to be able to run faster, easier. I am however out of shape so this comes back to bite me as the run / workout progresses.

I will definitely be buying more of these.

I tried the Alphaflys for the first time last week - it’s a solid no from me. The arch feels weird, they feel a tad clunky - they just didn’t suit me. I’ll be returning them in the next week or so. Next up is to try my Vaporflys!