Jakob Ingebrigtsen, Lewandowski, McSweyn - 1500 Ostrava.

call me frank wrote:

Corin wrote:

Arkea, you're being immature.

Tim has no competition at the moment. No one has threatened him. He fears no one right now. He is the reigning champion and is the Olympic favorite.

Jakob will have to move up to 5000m to maximize his marketability. He cannot win the 1500m with 1:46 800m speed. He simply cannot kick.

Meh. Tim is a doper. His days in the 1500 are numbered. More likelihood of Jakob getting the gold in the next Olympics than Tim. Jakob is simply a phenom that is already one of the best ever.

How do you know he is a doper? Just "guilt by association". And that is an Ad Hominem Fallacy. More likelihood? By, the way I am fed up by all these unsubstantiated claims. Whether it is about Jakob I or Cheruiyot.

NottinghamSpeed wrote:

" It is not speed Jacob lacks to beat Tim, its endurance."

KaareV wrote:

"Correct. It is to run faster over 1500 meters. And that is what he is training for. And by the way sure he can win. But not this year, and probably not the next."

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I disagree with both of you.

19 old Jakob hasn´t got the same topspeed as Timothy. And perhaps he will never get it BUT......

Jakob´s endurance is much better than Timothy´s.

Jakob can probably beat Timothy comfortably on all distances from 2000m and upwards right now.

And Jakob will most likely be able to "run down" Timothy before the finish of the 1500m already next year as I see no reason why Jakob should not put another layer on his aerobic foundation in the coming base training period (as he has done it every single year for at least 10 years).

NottinghamSpeed wrote:

Corin wrote:

Arkea, you're being immature.

Tim has no competition at the moment. No one has threatened him. He fears no one right now. He is the reigning champion and is the Olympic favorite.

Jakob will have to move up to 5000m to maximize his marketability. He cannot win the 1500m with 1:46 800m speed. He simply cannot kick.

It is not speed Jacob lacks to beat Tim, its endurance.

Nope.

Jakob lacks speed.

Jakob is as fit or moreso than Tim Cheruiyot right now.

....You can make a good argument that JI is perhaps fitter than all other great 1500/milers.

His best 800 is WAY slower than every single 15/miler he has equalled or bettered at the longer distance.

There is no way JI is going to manically match Tim or ElGs or Coe's finishing kick, ever

Tim is more fit and has a faster sprint than Jakob in a 1500m right now. A mile race would be interesting.

don't put lewandowski and jakob in the same sentence bruh

ILikeBananas wrote:

don't put lewandowski and jakob in the same sentence bruh

+1

Pajac wrote:

ILikeBananas wrote:

don't put lewandowski and jakob in the same sentence bruh

+1

https://youtube.com/watch?v=e6DVI5gXR1c

Still think Tim would take a mile. 2,000 I see tilting the scales to Jakob. Tim would have to change his tactics and go out less aggressively, and try to run down Jakob. I doubt he is strong enough to control a race that long and hold on.

John Wesley Harding wrote:

Pajac wrote:

+1

https://youtube.com/watch?v=e6DVI5gXR1c

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=IQcTd4xZ44o

yo children....lewandowski could be his father....ya'll needa chill. don't put them in the same sentence. #period . Jakob is the goat of this new decade. lewandowski has the 82nd fastest 1500....jakob....8th....already! #nuffsaid. time you boyz put your big panties on now k!

Jakob was almost caught by an unknown Kenyan who got badly boxed in.

Interesting.

I wonder if Wightman could have beaten Jakob today.

Pajac wrote:

Jakob was almost caught by an unknown Kenyan who got badly boxed in.

Interesting.

I wonder if Wightman could have beaten Jakob today.

Would come down to the tactics, pretty much.

he was about as far away as jakob was to Tim in Monaco. He is clearly the second best 1500m runner in the world right now

Pajac wrote:

"Jakob was almost caught by an unknown Kenyan who got badly boxed in.

Interesting.

I wonder if Wightman could have beaten Jakob today."

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I think Jakob wanted to test his sprint finish today.

I don´t think Kumari Taki (a 3:34 man) is completely unknown and I don´t think he was close to catch Jakob who seemed to have an extra gear.

How do you think the praised fast finisher Kejelcha was doing when Jakob opened the sprint?

Kejelcha really fell apart at the end.

Taki has a great pedigree. World Youth and World Junior Champions. Rep'd by Jos Hermens. Obviously has a long way to go tactically, but looks like there might be a 3:32 or 3:31 in the engine right now if he gets into a speedier race.

Jacob Ingebritsen was not even the most impressive 19 year old named Jacob at the Meet today Kiplimo was.

true, and he actually looks like a teenager too

Pajac wrote:

Jakob was almost caught by an unknown Kenyan who got badly boxed in.

Interesting.

I wonder if Wightman could have beaten Jakob today.

Unknown? No 4 in the Kenyan trials 1500 for the WC last year. At 16 and 1 month old 3.36.38. Though new PB in Ostrava.

Pajac wrote:

Jakob was almost caught by an unknown Kenyan who got badly boxed in.

Interesting.

I wonder if Wightman could have beaten Jakob today.

I'm flabbergasted by that ludicrous statement...I'm convinced you're still in diapers, son.....

douglas burke wrote:

Jacob Ingebritsen was not even the most impressive 19 year old named Jacob at the Meet today Kiplimo was.

Yes, impressive. Kiplimo ran 10000 at 27.26.68 when he was 15 and 3000 7.43.73 when 16. Jakob isn't close, right?