Rhonex Kipruto's 26:24 road WR is ratified. That mean's it's legit but how did he do it not in Vaporflys?

Nobody find it surprising than both Cheptegei and Rhonex Kiputro 10k road world record happenned in the same Valencia race profile, two months apart?

Whether Valencia race is short, downhill, tail wind, or just extremely fast with big straight lines and a max efficiency asphalt, I don't know.

In my opinion we should consider this record as a Valencia 10k record, an event record for Valencia. The woman race was also insanely fast with the best ever times in the top 5.

I will recognize this record as more than that if he run a fast 10 000m on track.

use your brain wrote:

A wild Guess wrote:

Not really. You can only run as fast as you can. Splits don't make you capable of more.

Ok, sure. Hearing splits every 400 on a dead flat surface certainly wouldn't aid in keeping you on pace;) I bet you're the guy people avoid at parties, eh?

There's a large amount of each lap without that feedback. I am the life of the party.

Primo Numero Uno wrote:

bored man over board wrote:

Obviously Epo and if you dont think so you're a naive and coddled individual.

I agree he is on EPO but the guys wearing vaporflys are on EPO as well.

I thought they drug test for EPO? He's never popped positive so why the immediate assumption of guilt?

zzzz wrote:

It's great talent, great training, and decent shoes.

If you've watch footage of this, you can see he rides the adidas Takumi Sens for all their worth. His heels never come down, so all that Zoom X in the back half of the Nikes wouldn't be benefiting him. The forefoot Boost might not have the highest return, but it's pretty close.

https://youtu.be/0KHqCpC2ODA?t=18

It's a strange world we live in where perfect running form is now referred to by some as "riding shoes well"...

Abeneziel wrote:

Nobody find it surprising than both Cheptegei and Rhonex Kiputro 10k road world record happenned in the same Valencia race profile, two months apart?

Whether Valencia race is short, downhill, tail wind, or just extremely fast with big straight lines and a max efficiency asphalt, I don't know.

In my opinion we should consider this record as a Valencia 10k record, an event record for Valencia. The woman race was also insanely fast with the best ever times in the top 5.

I will recognize this record as more than that if he run a fast 10 000m on track.

I agree that there is something about this course.

I don't know what, I'm not going to speculate, but there is fast time after fast time at Valencia.

I recall Kamworor closing a half marathon with a 13:01 5k at Valencia.

ex-runner wrote:

Abeneziel wrote:

Nobody find it surprising than both Cheptegei and Rhonex Kiputro 10k road world record happenned in the same Valencia race profile, two months apart?

Whether Valencia race is short, downhill, tail wind, or just extremely fast with big straight lines and a max efficiency asphalt, I don't know.

In my opinion we should consider this record as a Valencia 10k record, an event record for Valencia. The woman race was also insanely fast with the best ever times in the top 5.

I will recognize this record as more than that if he run a fast 10 000m on track.

I agree that there is something about this course.

I don't know what, I'm not going to speculate, but there is fast time after fast time at Valencia.

I recall Kamworor closing a half marathon with a 13:01 5k at Valencia.

Maybe the roads in Valencia are made out of carbon fiber and special foam?

is it really the shoes? wrote:

For all of you saying that the shoes are everything, how do you explain this?

https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/sports/2020/05/13/rhonexs-5km-and-10km-world-records-ratified/

Remember, he wasn't wearing Vaporflys.

#2thegills

Sammy Kipketer ran 12:59 at Carlsbad in 2000 almost 17 years before the carbon plated shoes appeared. Just because WA is late to the party doesn’t make it the real WR.

is it really the shoes? wrote:

For all of you saying that the shoes are everything, how do you explain this?

https://www.capitalfm.co.ke/sports/2020/05/13/rhonexs-5km-and-10km-world-records-ratified/

Remember, he wasn't wearing Vaporflys.

Rhonex's world record has been ratified.

Someone has gone home DEVASTATED!

Ha ha ha ha ha!

BOOST is BACK

ex-runner wrote:

It's a strange world we live in where perfect running form is now referred to by some as "riding shoes well"...

I call it like I see it, and no one has really disagreed. ;-)

Molly Huddle didn't run in the Saucony supershoe at marathon trials because the shoes bothered her ankles and she tested out to have less benefit than others (~1% compared to 4% that Jared Ward was getting). Huddle runs the same way, heels not coming down. Saucony needs a shoe like the Takumi Sen for her.

Huddle's relatively poor efficiency results in the Saucony super shoe and similarities between her running style and Kipruto's suggest that Kipruto was probably in the best shoe for him.

It's not the shoes, and roads are faster than a track because no turns. Nobody tries to go fast on a track anymore.

It is silly for the 5k road record to be slower than the average pace for the 10k road record. The officials need to make sure that "en route" counts if there's a timed segment that beats a shorter distance record.

I think it is possible that Kipruto is just extremely fast and capable of breaking Bekele's world record. Kipruto, Cheptegei, and Kiplimo are absolutely ridiculous talents. One of those 3 will break Bekele's record.

casual obsever wrote:

bored man over board wrote:

Obviously Epo and if you dont think so you're a naive and coddled individual.

That in itself isn't really a sufficient explanation, because so many others have used EPO and were still a lot slower.

So, my bet is on a next-to-perfect combo of great talent/training/doping/shoes/course/pacing/weather/..., like for all world records.

He negatively split the second 5k

ex-runner wrote:

Abeneziel wrote:

Nobody find it surprising than both Cheptegei and Rhonex Kiputro 10k road world record happenned in the same Valencia race profile, two months apart?

Whether Valencia race is short, downhill, tail wind, or just extremely fast with big straight lines and a max efficiency asphalt, I don't know.

In my opinion we should consider this record as a Valencia 10k record, an event record for Valencia. The woman race was also insanely fast with the best ever times in the top 5.

I will recognize this record as more than that if he run a fast 10 000m on track.

I agree that there is something about this course.

I don't know what, I'm not going to speculate, but there is fast time after fast time at Valencia.

I recall Kamworor closing a half marathon with a 13:01 5k at Valencia.

To add to this, apparently Kipruto's last 5k in Valencia was 13:06.

There is something special about that course.

is it really the shoes? wrote:

For all of you saying that the shoes are everything, how do you explain this?

I saw this one woman who is 6' tall and is taller than most men. How is this possible? For all of you saying that men are taller than women, how do you explain this?

One single, lone exception does not disprove a general rule.

Also, the road 10k (and 5k) WRs were only recently instituted and were therefore very soft.

When the next 10k WR is set in *Flys will you change your mind? If you're going to place so much importance on this one specific result, then if you're honest you'll have to change your mind if this result doesn't last.

Not sure if trolling or not, but ever heard of micro dosing?

Rupp fan wrote:

I think it is possible that Kipruto is just extremely fast and capable of breaking Bekele's world record. Kipruto, Cheptegei, and Kiplimo are absolutely ridiculous talents. One of those 3 will break Bekele's record.

Not on a track.

The 10,000 m on a track is significantly harder than running straight on a road with barely any turns.