How can you tell if someone is talented in running?

Kvothe wrote:

david45 wrote:

I personally never met someone who can run a mile that fast without training

You haven't met nearly anyone. You post runnersworld style queries day after day, so that is obvious. There are in fact beginners who can run a sub 5 mile with only a couple months of low mileage training or even no training, having come from another sport. With 4 years of hs running, some of these guys are running well under 15 (for 5k) and 410 (mile) by the time they enter college. Adults who can do this are exceeding rare because of the unhealthy American/western lifestyle.

I can't help it that I wasn't born with the right genes

david45 wrote:

Fitter than fiddle wrote:

5 minutes.

I personally never met someone who can run a mile that fast without training

i ran high 5:20s in 8th grade and only went to track practice twice a week.

david45 wrote:

Please Stop wrote:

Anyone who can run sub 20 5k or sub 5 mile with little to no training has potential. If those two benchmarks aren't met within a month or so of formal training commencing, you might as well hang up the spikes and find a different activity.

Then why is breaking 5 such a big deal in high school track?

it's not. breaking 4 is s big deal.

david45 wrote:

How do you tell if a random guy can be a great runner?

How many ways and how many threads will you ask this question? Now that’s true talent.

DAVID

how about you move away for a couple months and train like lindgren?

come back and tell us of all the progress u have made and how much faster you are. you will be god.

He's already decided that he can't run more than 20 miles a week without pieces breaking off.

david45 wrote:

Kvothe wrote:

You haven't met nearly anyone. You post runnersworld style queries day after day, so that is obvious. There are in fact beginners who can run a sub 5 mile with only a couple months of low mileage training or even no training, having come from another sport. With 4 years of hs running, some of these guys are running well under 15 (for 5k) and 410 (mile) by the time they enter college. Adults who can do this are exceeding rare because of the unhealthy American/western lifestyle.

I can't help it that I wasn't born with the right genes

Where did you have genetic testing done?

FAST!!!!! wrote:

They are fast with very little training

Exactly...and there is absolutely no mistaking it.

The Predictor wrote:

david45 wrote:

I personally never met someone who can run a mile that fast without training

i ran high 5:20s in 8th grade and only went to track practice twice a week.

I can't do that

david45 wrote:

The Predictor wrote:

i ran high 5:20s in 8th grade and only went to track practice twice a week.

I can't do that

suck it

david45 wrote:

The Predictor wrote:

i ran high 5:20s in 8th grade and only went to track practice twice a week.

I can't do that

Nobody should be 18 in grade 8

I ran sub 5 in my first mile race at 14 yo coming off of years of soccer. I've never run an open mile race over 5 minutes.

krispy kremlin._._._._ wrote:

I ran sub 5 in my first mile race at 14 yo coming off of years of soccer. I've never run an open mile race over 5 minutes.

Nice job having good genes!

FAST!!!!! wrote:

They are fast with very little training

Not just fast per say, but fast relative to people in their age or body weight category.

A 250 pound kid who runs a 7 minute mile can arguably be considered talented at running.

Please Stop wrote:

Anyone who can run sub 20 5k or sub 5 mile with little to no training has potential. If those two benchmarks aren't met within a month or so of formal training commencing, you might as well hang up the spikes and find a different activity.

I'm trying to do a sub 20 minute 5k. So I have no training potential uhhh.

Would you consider someone going from 6:10 in the mile to 5:07 in the mile in one season with no base just played soccer and during track was running less then 20 miles a week. But then ended up next season having a really bad track season probably because I did little to no training in the time in between that. But then did a little over 20 miles a week for a few months then some speed work then ran 4:50.

Please Stop wrote:

Anyone who can run sub 20 5k or sub 5 mile with little to no training has potential. If those two benchmarks aren't met within a month or so of formal training commencing, you might as well hang up the spikes and find a different activity.

Not true. I knew a 9th grader who couldn't do those things with a full year of training and ended up being a 28:00 /2:13 guy. His name, you ask? Joe Lemay. He was my H.S. teammate, and no one really took notice of him until he started making some big gains his sophomore year. Then it became apparent he could become really good.

You can be pretty mediocre at first and not show outward signs of talent for a while but end up a diamond in the rough. This is definitely not typical, but it can happen. I think persistence, the right attitude, patience, intelligence about your approach to training, etc., can all bring out talent that may not have been apparent in the beginning.

Of course thrre are exceptions. If you have read any of Dave45s 3 million threads you would know that I was directing those times specifically toward his twisted mind. For some reason he has been phishing for weeks looking for someone to stroke his ego and tell him he is fast. He wants so badly to hear that a 5 min mile or 20 min 5k is fast to somebody, anybody. Unfortunstly he is not fast. And it drives him crazy. He pittys himself and blames all his problems on terrible genes. Sad pathetic little man.

Cathy loves to run 15 wrote:

Please Stop wrote:

Anyone who can run sub 20 5k or sub 5 mile with little to no training has potential. If those two benchmarks aren't met within a month or so of formal training commencing, you might as well hang up the spikes and find a different activity.

I'm trying to do a sub 20 minute 5k. So I have no training potential uhhh.

Male, duh. Add 40 seconds per mile to what I wrote for females.