Critique my solution for College Athletics

Agreed.

It should be just like the model overseas, where sports are not part of their academic institutions. They have sports academies overseas, and kids who want a career in sports go to the sports academies, where they get room and board, home schooled,they sign a contract, and they are allowed to accept endorsement deals.

So your model is essentially that.....

The university of michigan would have two institutions: University of Michigan for Academic Studies, and the University of Michigan Sports Academy.

Only rule is that all athletes would only be allowed to sign a 4 year maximum contract, and must do at least 2 years. That way it does not come into competition with pro leagues or pro teams.

This model works for most of the power 5. That's about 60 schools.

What model do you propose for the other 175 D1 and 300 D2/D3 schools that generate next to no revenue from football and basketball?

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This model works for most of the power 5. That's about 60 schools.

Last set of stats that I saw from the NCAA showed that only about 30 schools (less than half of the P5 schools) make a profit from their sports programs.

My solution for the other programs that can't make a profit (or at least sustain the costs) Is to either a) take the loss and call it an investment toward the marketing and visibility of the school or b) join division 3.

But in either case we eliminate the idea that profit (sometimes huge profit)- generating businesses can remain unaccountable to the players. And we give players who essentially just want a minor-league experience the opportunity to do that without having to pretend to care about the academic mission of the university.

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This model works for most of the power 5. That's about 60 schools.

What model do you propose for the other 175 D1 and 300 D2/D3 schools that generate next to no revenue from football and basketball?

Make all other sports club with clubs aligned by school size and limited geographic region.

Make ALL womens sports club (except for UConn women's basketball).

Ha ha ha ha... you are going to try to sell this to coaches and administrators who are making millions of dollars in salaries under the current system? Hilarious. Next.

No reason why the Football and Basketball coaches who make millions can't still make millions. And the administrators at those schools who pull in high-6-figure salaries can continue that, too. I'm saying that the players can get paid and won't be required to be students. All the millions that support the other sports can now go to the players of the revenue sports.

True statement. They should be allowed to play in the NFL or NBA whenever a team wants them, like soccer. Get rid of the unjust rule of so many years out of high school and let the market dictate their compensation.

Do you have any idea how much Arena Football players make?

Do you have any idea what profit is?

It would be a bigger hypocrisy. Why don't we just let the Jacksonville Jaguars buy the rights to the name Florida Gators. The Gators is a bigger brand.

They would still be exploited

Notre Dame won't even join a conference now. Do you think Alabama wants to revenue share with Vanderbilt?

Title IX if these sports are affiliated in any way with the University.

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Basic Premise: Football and Men's Basketball players create revenue, but do not necessarily receive proportionate compensation or at least have no control over the compensation (other than to take it or leave it).

True statement. They should be allowed to play in the NFL or NBA whenever a team wants them, like soccer. Get rid of the unjust rule of so many years out of high school and let the market dictate their compensation.

**Agreed.

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Players... are employees and are compensated in a way similar to any other Minor-League model.

Do you have any idea how much Arena Football players make?

**They make a salary commensurate with their market value--as should anyone. Minor league baseball players make very little as well. But the college-affiliated football minor league would be a true path to the NFL.

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Most or all of the profits would be eaten up by the player salaries and operating costs,

Do you have any idea what profit is?

**Ok Call it Revenue.

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Advantages: 1) No more student-athlete hypocrisy.

It would be a bigger hypocrisy. Why don't we just let the Jacksonville Jaguars buy the rights to the name Florida Gators. The Gators is a bigger brand.

**How is that a bigger hypocrisy? Its people in business trying to make a profit. Not pretending that education is their main goal.

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2) No more athlete exploitation.

They would still be exploited

**They get to play, get a potential path to the "Majors," and they get paid. Where's the exploitation?

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3) If the leagues adopt revenue sharing/collective bargaining/Salary Structure, should produce more parity.

Notre Dame won't even join a conference now. Do you think Alabama wants to revenue share with Vanderbilt?

**Alabama and Vanderbilt already share revenue through the SEC. Do I think the Cowboys want to share revenue with the Jaguars? Apparently the bigger profits are enough for all.

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I anticipate that many will argue that huge numbers of athletic scholarship opportunities will be lost for those in other sports. My view is so what?

Title IX if these sports are affiliated in any way with the University.

**No one is getting scholarships. The sports and participation opportunities can still be offered. Division 3 has no problem with it. I don't think Football and basketball would count any longer--they're no longer student activities they are now marketing activities.

I've had a similar idea for a long time and I'm with you 100%. The level of competition at the college level would likely improve because top talent could be concentrated in the better schools, and that would make it more watchable. A benefit would be that players could be eligible for more than 4 years so some who develop slower might still have a shot at the NFL/NBA.

My question is do you guys think revenue for college teams would remain at the same level...

Will boosters donate to semi pro college teams like they do now? No one donates to pro teams, although they do market with them.

Would people still care/go to games? I do not think the NBA D league or minor league baseball, or Arena football generate do very well. Most exist to serve parent clubs and make whatever money they can. No facts to back this up, just what I think.

People like college sports. College football and basketball in reality are a minor league but that is not the perception. If you take away the student athlete aspect of college athletics I think people will begin to see them as a minor league, and most people are indifferent about minor league sports. Revenue would plummet.

I like college sports, but I think it makes more sense to argue not having college athletics at all instead of a semi pro system.

My solution...the NCAA comes up with per sport operating cost limits, by sports sposered, and facility upgrade restrictions to eliminate the arms race. Athletic programs have to put any revenue generated above athletic dept operation costs limits into a general university find fund or into non athlete merit based scholarships.

This would need to be worked out, but I think a good starting premise.