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9 years ago 11/17/2015 1:30pm EST

I've had trouble posting this thread, so it comes in pieces.I took a look at the members of the IAAF ethics commission, and shown what I found below.Kevin Gosper (AUS)From http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1999-02-03/sports/9902030027_1_ioc-membership-merode-dopingIn response to claims and an admission by John Cpoates that he gave $35,000 to Kenya and Uganda for their Sydney Olympic bids:

"There is nothing written down that says you can't provide an inducement with the bids and nothing that says you cannot do it right up until the vote is taken," Gosper said. "People were slightly concerned about the timing, but it did not break the rules. End of story."

He was the subject of his own investigation into corruption for Salt LAke City Games:

http://www.abc.net.au/am/stories/s108072.htm

The International Olympic Committee's Ethics Commission has declined to declare Australian IOC vice president, Kevan Gosper, innocent on charges of corruption. Instead it's appointed an independent expert to look into allegations made about a trip to Salt Lake City by Gosper's wife and two of his children in 1990.[
...
Just an hour before the Ethics Commission began its meeting in Lausanne, the man who was the driving force behind its establishment resigned. Kevan Gosper now finds himself tarnished by the seemingly never-ending web of allegations of misconduct and corruption that spread from Salt Lake City.

More evidence of favoritism:

http://www.abc.net.au/am/stories/s126454.htm

Kevan Gosper, the vice-president of the International Olympic Committee, has finally bowed to public outrage and made an emotional apology for what he called his error of judgement in letting his daughter carry the Olympic torch. Sophie Gosper displaced another Australian girl, Yianna Souleles, after the Hellenic Olympic Committee invited Ms Gosper to be the first Australian torch bearer for this year's Games.

and

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1300&dat=19890221&id=pJRVAAAAIBAJ&sjid=F5cDAAAAIBAJ&pg=2070,30356&hl=en

Just the headline for brevity:

Gosper Joins Attack on Sports-Doping Inquiry

More details on those stories here:

http://search.abc.net.au/s/search.html?collection=abcall_meta&query=kevan+gosper&form=simple

9 years ago 11/17/2015 1:31pm EST

re: Clerk

Michael BELOFFLed the fight against the British rule expelling ex-dopers from Olympic Games:http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/1018872/michael-beloff-doping-expert-who-defended-chambers-gets-lead-role-in-iaaf-ethics-commissionOtherwise, since being head of Ethics Commission since last year, he has been slow to act on what we knew all along: a failure to act:

â€œI am hoping the IAAF is decisive, swift and public in the way it handles it. History suggests these things can be kicked into the long grass. If there is wrongdoing here, that canâ€™t be allowed to happen,â€ he said. â€œIf there is wrongdoing here, clean athletes need to have confidence that they are operating on a level playing field.â€
and
Coe has promised to reform further the IAAFâ€™s internal organisation to make doping control completely independent of the main executive body if he is elected. But he said he had faith in the recently constituted ethics committee, chaired by the respected British QC Michael Beloff.
Asked if the allegations against Diackâ€™s son made it difficult for the IAAF president, Coe, the former 800m and 1500m world record holder, added: â€œNo, I think Lamine is very clear, he will wait for the investigation and, if names are in the fray, then those names will be subject to that investigation.
â€œHeâ€™s certainly not curtailing the work of the ethics committee nor could you â€“ itâ€™s Michael Beloff, one of the top QCs in the world.â€

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/dec/04/uk-athletics-russia-doping-allegations

and

http://www.theguardian.com/sport/2014/dec/08/lord-coe-iaaf-could-suspend-russia-doping-allegations

So he had a year, and still failed, to uncover what WADA did in a few months.

9 years ago 11/17/2015 1:32pm EST

re: Clerk

Akira Kawamura

Hard to find any English news on Kawamura. Although looks like a good candidate in the sense that there were no negative stories.

Tafsir Malick Ndaiye

Like Kawamura, it is hard to look at his work, as it is in French. He is the legal backbone of the Commission, having studied and served in many international and constitutional law. He will be the one deciding whether IAAF has authority to (fill in the blank), or whether member federations have authority to (fill in the blank)

9 years ago 11/17/2015 1:33pm EST

re: Clerk

Thomas MurrayHe has avoided politics, and been in advisory roles for in many capacities. But he has a habit of not being listened to:

Q. For more than a decade, you served on a United States Olympic Committee panel charged with monitoring sports doping. Did you find it a waste of time?
A: No, because I met some wonderful people among the athletes who also served. But what happened was that we would get partial information, provide the advice we were asked to give and then we'd never find out whether the advice was followed.
I felt frustrated. The U.S.O.C. had to have some form of drug control program; that's what I felt we were doing there. But there was the feeling that the leadership of the U.S.O.C. as well as the various sports governing bodies, with rare exceptions, was not really committed to this.

And in 2006/7: when he chaired the WADA Ethical Review Panel and which made this report on hypoxic chambers:

The use of artificially induced hypoxic conditions to modify performance as an invasion of technology that does no require athlete's insight, effort, or significant active participation of any kind. As such, artificially induced hypoxic conditions to modify performance are a violation of the spirit of the Olympic sport, which celebrates natural talents and their virtuous perfection.
(http.://www.gbshaun.com/altitudeforall//wada_statement.html)

He may be a good advocate for the Ethics Commission,but doesn't have the best record of turning his good ideas into policy.

9 years ago 11/17/2015 1:34pm EST

re: Clerk

Carlos NuzmanPresident of Rio 2016 Organizing committee. I won't get into the failures of Rio so far, but there is a lot of information available on the challenged state of construction and clean-up: setting and reviewing the doping labs, open-water venue pollution, slum clearance, focus on Games buildings and not infrastructure for athletes and Brazilians during the games...Here he is endorsing corruption:

Rio 2016 chief executive Leo Gryner said here today that Havelange, now 96 and all-powerful as FIFA boss between 1974 and 1998, was an "historical icon" of Brazilian sport and that they had no plans to rename the Estadio Olimpico JoÃ£o Havelange.
"Everything he has contributed to the transformation of Brazilian and international sport has served as an example to the IOC (International Olympic Committee)," said Gryner.
Despite Havelange and his former son-in-law, Ricardo Teixeira, recently being found to have received millions of dollars in kickbacks from ISL before FIFA's one-time marketing partner went bust in 2001, the Stadium will retain its name when it stages athletics events in 2016 â€“ a blow for campaigners who want all traces of the disgraced former FIFA supremo and IOC member erased.
"He already paid, he has been punished," Gryner said.
"I have a lot of pride to be associated with JoÃ£o Havelange."
Gryner's stance is supported by Carlos Nuzman, the President of Rio 2016.

http://www.insidethegames.biz/articles/18057/disgraced-havelanges-name-to-remain-on-rio-2016-stadium-as-call-for-change-gather-paces

And when corruption doesn't work, how about burglary:

It is not wise to oppose will of Carloz Nuzman directly. This is something that Eric Maleson, the president of the Brazilian Ice Sports Federation has learned the hard way. Out of 30 federation presidents, he was the only one who opposed when Nuzman was re-elected COB president for the fifth time.
The conflict between them culminated when leading COB employees broke in at the Ice Sports Federationâ€™s headquarters in December last year, allegedly because the Brazilian authorities had unsuccessfully asked for certain documents to be handed over. This was a legitimate reason to break in to the opponentâ€™s offices, which are leased from COB, says COB itself and refers to the fact that nothing was removed.
It has been more difficult for Nuzman and the COB to explain their way out of another break-in: shortly after the London Olympics it was revealed that key employees from the Rio 2016 Organising Committee had broken into a server belonging to their British colleagues from London 2012 and had gained access to confidential material on organisation, commercial contracts, etc.

http://www.playthegame.org/news/news-articles/2013/brazil-ups-fight-against-corruption,-puts-sport-under-pressure/

President of Brazil thinks:

"I'm fed up with Nuzman and I do not trust him an inch."

He has experience in Volleyball as former head of the federation...:

Last week, the Brazilian comptroller generalâ€™s office said companies controlled by relatives of the former president of the CBV, as well as current and former administrators, misappropriated 30 million reais ($11.1 million) in sponsorship income from state-owned Banco do Brasil. The bank, the federationâ€™s top sponsor, immediately suspended all funding.

Nuzman is not under investigation (Arya Graca, another former head, is)

Lauri Tarasti

May be the guy I trust the most. A legal background in political financing and sport law, he has shown the ethical values of Thomas Murray, but with sharper teeth, having won cases in the legal battleground.

I won't link anything, because the Finnish translations may not be accurate. Not much in original English.

9 years ago 11/17/2015 1:37pm EST

re: Clerk

There you have it. The IAAF Ethics Commission.

TL;DR: Too many (2) politicians with history of corruption. Some well-meaning individuals that come with a history of political inability/inaction. Some powerful intellects, but only one (in my opinion) that combines those qualities into an effective enforcer of Ethics. Two others where I couldn't find enough accessible (English) information.

IAAF's write up and bios here:

http://www.iaaf.org/news/press-release/iaaf-ethics-commission-members-appointed

Follow link to bios

Website here:

http://www.iaafethicscommission.org

9 years ago 11/17/2015 9:05pm EST

re: Clerk

Fox watching the chicken coop. What else is new.

9 years ago 11/18/2015 7:33pm EST

re: Clerk

This is interesting, thanks for putting it all together! I don't know if all of the criticisms are fair, but it's good to raise the questions...

I know the IAAF Ethics Commission has had all of the information on the coverup regarding banned athletes competing while banned in Saransk since January. The WADA IC report already confirmed that those events happened. I'm giving the IAAF Ethics Commission side eyes for taking so long to report, they should have had something out by August, at least on that topic.

I hope that perhaps there is more to the story and that there is a good reason it has taken so long...

9 years ago 11/18/2015 11:28pm EST

re: Clerk

This is a fantastic post. Brojos, mail this guy a LRC shirt ASAP! Maybe the brojos can work their connections to find out more about the lesser known members.

9 years ago 11/18/2015 11:42pm EST

re: fdasfasfdsf

...cut Russia a little slack. They're about to go underground and do some dirty work on ISIS that Obama is afraid to do. I wonder if this is on the table???...

"...if we handicap ISIS, can we get back into the Olympics?..."

9 years ago 11/19/2015 11:26am EST

re: Clerk

This is excellent information. Thanks.

9 years ago 11/19/2015 12:13pm EST

re: Clerk

second the LR teeshirt idea.

Clerk has proven to be an intelligent informed poster and of great value to the board

Thank you Clerk,

9 years ago 11/19/2015 2:23pm EST

re: wineturtle

Thanks for the compliments. Cheers everybody.

I think the Russia case makes it obvious that an anti-doing stance focused on the dopers, agents and coaches is not enough. We need to know where the anti-doping net is weak or outright torn. The dopers already know.

9 years ago 11/19/2015 2:24pm EST

re: wineturtle

I have checked several articles written in portuguese about mister Carlos Nuzman.

in a senate hearing one of the senators claimed a a relationship between Patrick Hickey and Carlos Nuzman (possibly atlanta and salt lake city related). it appears some politicians were not happy with his administration, claiming he served the IOC instead of 'brazilian interests'.

Nuzman is also a key player in a volleyball scandal. sponsor money was taken by the volleyball federation. this is a scandal that came to light thanks to the players -- they wanted a bigger piece of the pie. Oopsie.

but hey, this is a great post. kudos.

9 years ago 11/20/2015 2:42pm EST

re: Clerk

Something needs to be done to get international sports governance out the hands of an incestuous band of hangers-on who are in it to make money, travel, be put up in nice hotels, and be sucked up to by similarly incestuous national sports governing bodies.

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