Hebron, KY Group Avoiding Drug tests, by running Elsewhere..STOP THEM!

How do you know they are drug cheats and not just faster than you? Is there evidence of cheating in KY?

We need a little more evidence than they ran one race instead of another to accuse these people of being drug cheats. Lots of people travel a lot further to race. It seems strange to me that drug cheats would risk it all on races that offer only a few hundred dollars as prizes.

Good on Indy for stepping up their game with the drug tests. And yes, it would be nice to see more races do the same. However, all you have pointed out is that these folks run fast. You've provided nothing that would make me think - in your words, "OBVIOUSLY you can see that there is PEDS going on here..."

A couple of other things. Outer Banks Marathon is flatter and most likely faster. The cash amounts for those who place are greater at Outer Banks as well. This is really the big thing. If their contingent of athletes was given financial aid to come and run Outer Banks then they may as well since the individual prizes are more. Not to mention, who wants to run the same race year after year as an elite just because it's close? Very few, especially for those elites who have no ties to the race's community.

pedskeptic wrote:

How do you know they are drug cheats and not just faster than you? Is there evidence of cheating in KY?

Yes. Lots.

When two Kenyan distance runners were sanctioned for doping offenses by Athletics Kenya last week, initial news reports described one of the athletes, Jynocel Basweti, as "relatively unknown."... where he appears on a multi-national roster of athletes at Larisa Mikhaylova's L.M. Elite Running Club.

and

Basweti has the same management company, L.M. Elite Running Club, as Nixon Cherutich, who is one of the runners suspended last month. The U.S.-based company is operated by former elite Russian runner Larisa Mikhaylova.

Ethiopian-born Shitaye Gemechu, 27, who trains in Hebron, Ky., won the women’s half marathon in 1:17:39.

Gemechu has tested positive for EPO:

Several out of that group, plus.

Someone will be along shortly to argue what business it is of yours.

Exactly, thanks Guys. So you NEED more Proof that this in not anything going on in KY ????????

Good posts. I have been living under a rock apparently. I hate drug cheats as much as the next guy and if there is something bigger going on than a few bad apples then I hope they break it up for good. However, this is the US and everyone is innocent until proven guilty. Again, a few bad apples can make a good coach / program look bad. That may not be the case here, and I'd love to hear the results of a more thorough investigation, but dissolving the group at this point is premature.

Yeah but how's a guy/gal suppose to earn a living. You got to drive 12 hours now? That just sucks.

And Juice up every day, and run smaller races EVERY WEEKEND!!! nothing Suspicious HERE. Poof.

W/E I hope they shut that Group down!

Clean athletes and coaches want zero to do with dopers. They don't climb into a car with them and go off to a competition together. That would be like parents and their children going on vacation with known pedophiles.

Why would a clean coach want his athlete associating with a proven drug cheat? He wouldn't.

Instead, the drug users create a mini-culture of their own, in which using drugs is an acceptable norm.

Thank YOU SIR. EXACTLY!

Wish Someone would do some SERIOUS INVESTIGATION ON THEM!

She's 35 now. Them sub 2:30 marathons aren't there.

https://athleticsrankings.com/indresults.php?season=Road&year=2013&nameno=1220550740141527SHITAYEGEMECHU

Russia + Kenya = red flag alliance.

Add Judy Jesire Kimuge Mariita to the list. Ban these Hebron clowns!

I've heard rumors on this group before and would like to see actions taken. Does USADA have a system to report this type of suspicion? Or should one just send them an e mail? Thoughts from those who know the system?

USADA is well-aware of these chumps. I was tested at home once and they said they were on their way to Hebron the next day.