Do you remeber that?
Do you remeber that?
was it illegal?
Darn straight I do! I remember it too!
Were the prisoners AWOL soldiers who left their post and cost others their lives?
Had the money and cache killed people in the past and swore to kill again?
1. Prisoners is different than prisoner
2. Those prisoners did not abandon their position
3. There were not six other US soldiers killed during an attempt to locate the deserter, like those who died during the search for Bergdahl. Bergdahl was selfish and that lead to the deaths of six other Americans.
4. The five prisoners that were released in exchange for Bergdahl have already killed many other people. Money that was exchanged with Iran had not already killed innocent people, nor did weapons.
5. The two incidents have nothing to do with each other.
If you can't look at this decision rationally and see that it was a dangerous mistake then you have no objectivity whatsoever. That's merely if you look at the decision to make the exchange without even considering the fact that the constitution does not grant the White House the legal authority to do so. The only reason to post something about Reagan is to make the inference that someone anyone questioning the decision is doing so for political reasons which is simply not the case. If you think Reagan was wrong for making that exchange then that should have no effect whatsoever on your ability to see that this was a dangerous mistake, and an illegal one at that.
Nancy Boy wrote:
Do you remeber that?
Yes. Neither illegal, nor was the exchange for a SINGLE deserter. Nor did Reagan trade high level commanders for a single American deserter.
If you can't see the difference then there is no hope for you.
Aardvark1 wrote:
4. The five prisoners that were released in exchange for Bergdahl have already killed many other people.
Source?
Might it be that you pulled this nugget out of your ass?
genuine random a hole wrote:
Aardvark1 wrote:4. The five prisoners that were released in exchange for Bergdahl have already killed many other people.
Source?
Might it be that you pulled this nugget out of your ass?
He pulled nothing out of his .... This from the Kevin Sief of the Washington Post:
One of the freed men was the head of the Taliban’s army. Another arranged for al-Qaeda trainers to visit Afghanistan. Another has been implicated by the United Nations for killing THOUSANDS of Shiite Muslims.
Although the five men have each been in prison for at least a decade, many believe they still have significant influence within the Taliban because of their contributions during the group’s formative years. The last time a high-level Taliban official was released from Guantanamo, in 2007, the detainee, Mullah Abdul Qayyum Zakir, returned to Afghanistan and took the reins as the organization’s director of military operations.
Not sure what your point is, apples and oranges. But now that you brought him up didn't Reagan basically dismantle the Soviet Union and end the cold war? Remember that? And after all that now Obama is doing everything in his power to revive and recreate the Soviet Union empire.
After the CIA and Mossad were wiped out by Cubans agnets in South Africa, Ronny abandoned and left them to be tortured and cannibalized by Zulu and Bantu fighters.
Hey Nancy Boy, this thread isn't quite going the way you expected is it?
Next time you might want to read your history and put it in context before you embarrass yourself posting something you read on your leftist websites or saw on MSNBC.
Sorrytoeatandrun wrote:
Not sure what your point is, apples and oranges. But now that you brought him up didn't Reagan basically dismantle the Soviet Union and end the cold war? Remember that? And after all that now Obama is doing everything in his power to revive and recreate the Soviet Union empire.
No, he didn't do that. And no, Obama isn't doing that. Are you arguing that Obama and Vladimir Putin are the same person?
Ho Hum wrote:
Sorrytoeatandrun wrote:Not sure what your point is, apples and oranges. But now that you brought him up didn't Reagan basically dismantle the Soviet Union and end the cold war? Remember that? And after all that now Obama is doing everything in his power to revive and recreate the Soviet Union empire.
No, he didn't do that. And no, Obama isn't doing that. Are you arguing that Obama and Vladimir Putin are the same person?
No quite. Putin has balls, Obama doesn't.
RR was the Screen Actors Guild president. He thought those were just fake props that were being traded for ransom. No worries, Mate.
It was illegal. He violated the law prohibiting U.S. military intervention in Nicaragua, the Boland Amendment.
jjjjjjjjj wrote:
It was illegal. He violated the law prohibiting U.S. military intervention in Nicaragua, the Boland Amendment.
The Iranian hostage situation had nothing to do with Nicaragua. The timing of the release of the hostages coinciding with the inauguration of Reagan was due to 1) the carter administration misreading the implications of admitting the Shah to the US for health reasons making the US appear loyal to a puppet government installed 25 years earlier and 2) possibly George H. W. Bush's influence with the CIA's network which he was familiar with as former director.
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Wasn't Reagan a personal service and physicial favors attendant in his twenties who worked for Hollywood movie makers?
I do. I also remember when 300 Marines were killed in Lebanon and Reagan cut and ran.
Nancy Boy wrote:
Do you remeber that?
Some lunatic wrote:
jjjjjjjjj wrote:It was illegal. He violated the law prohibiting U.S. military intervention in Nicaragua, the Boland Amendment.
The Iranian hostage situation had nothing to do with Nicaragua...
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Both of these statements are correct. The Iran/Contra deal covertly sold artillery and weapons to Iran to fund the anti-communist rebels in central America. It had nothing to do with the embassy hostages. Both of the above deals were carried out without Congressional knowledge and in direct violation of federal law. When called in front of a Senate investigative committee, Reagan's men (most notably Ollie North), lied their asses off and/or plead the fifth.
Has there ever been a US involved war where we didn't trade prisoners for the release of other prisoners? Isn't this fairly standard and accepted practice? I get that people don't like the guy we repatriated but this isn't some universally abhorred tactic.