More Doping Positives !

there ya go.

At this point, nothing would surprise me. Nothing.

Wow!

At this rate, I can't vouch for or defend anyone.

As we say in the continent, things are elephant. Anything goes right now.

hey nativeson, do you know anything about this Albert Rop guy who's getting so fast?

Regarding doping in juniors, I told you about this on this board already a long time ago:

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=4574042&page=1

http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=5126012&page=2

Sure, some are widely competing and subject to testing, but the difficulty with that is now being seen.

I will resurrect this thread when the next phenom seemingly miraculously emerges from obscurity.

No wonder why Glen Mills asked for a IAAF acredited lab in Kingston.

Yeah, sure Glen. Jamaicans tested by Jamaicans.

Kind of like Americans getting tested by Americans.....

Ben L. Wrong wrote:

No wonder why Glen Mills asked for a IAAF acredited lab in Kingston.

Yeah, sure Glen. Jamaicans tested by Jamaicans.

Well, at least USADA made the "down goes Lance" move. But you have a point.

warren weir

Can you make out your case for Weir?

The issue with juniors doping is difficult. We do not hold juniors to the same moral, ethical, and legal standards as we do adults, and to some extent they are to be excused for "errors of judgment", depending on the severity and frequency, and are to be "educated" or "counseled" rather than sanctioned or punished.

The problem is that going up the food chain from the junior is time-consuming, expensive, and difficult, much more so than just testing a urine or blood sample.

Doping a junior is the next-best doping strategy to hiding behind doctor-patient confidentiality.

If there was ever a good case for a lifetime ban, it should be for anybody who knowingly, recklessly, or negligently dopes or aids in the doping of a junior, or knows about the possible doping of a junior but fails to report the known facts directly to the IAAF, WADA, or the IOC.

I am also hearing rumblings about:

USADA and WADA have been given and/or funded to purchase million dollar chemical analysis equipment which they are keeping silent about. And, for over a year they have been secretly re testing thousands of old samples.

Powell's positive was not an inadvertent type stimulant, basically he was on a cocktail that included masking agents and he allegedly had a previous positive that was not reported.

There are a couple of JA athletes who have suspicious testing results and although no positives are eminent, they may voluntarily withdraw from the WC. 2 of those athletes already will not be competing; Bolt is not one of them.

There are some anomalies found in a couple of African athletes who will not be competing as well. These are not positives, but they have already or will withdraw from the WCs.

Gay’s situation is serious as in his career might be over with and it’s because of his own stupidity. And, what he was doing is something started a little over a year ago.

New and highly advance testing was used prior to and during USATFs and this will be the cleanest team the USA has fielded in decades and overall this WC will be the cleanest as well.

Also, there are serious discussions about making agents, doctors, coaches and sponsors in some way more accountable for doping.

All of USADA/WADA and the athletic federation's energy right now are focused on the WC so you may not hear any official announcements until late August. It appears science might have the upper hand on doping and most importantly, the cheaters don’t know what they can get away with. Btw, I said several months ago that there will not be any mind blowing sprint times this year.

As separate issue, 1 maybe 2 JA WYC athletes may have competed overage.

Coach--

Fun stuff, but 9.75 and 9.79 ARE mind-blowing sprint times, and they've already been done this year.

Also, anything 9.8x is mind-blowing, and has been done by guys who are still competing.

Also, of course Bolt is not one of those athletes who has suspicious test results.

He probably won't even have to dope for Moscow, with the other 3 of the Big 4 all gone--Blake, Gay, and Powell.

If he will be clean, it will be interesting to see his time, as well as how close other guys are to him.

Can you imagine a championship race in which he doesn't win?

"There are some anomalies found in a couple of African athletes who will not be competing as well. These are not positives, but they have already or will withdraw from the WCs."

-makhloufi???

Ben L. Wrong wrote:

No wonder why Glen Mills asked for a IAAF acredited lab in Kingston.

Yeah, sure Glen. Jamaicans tested by Jamaicans.

He was asking for an accredited lab to validate the purity of any supplements used by athletes. In light of what has recently transpired he has a point.

And it is interesting that these recent positives were from the JA Invitational and JA trials. So much for the notion that they don't test on the 'lil island.

Let's say your fantasy is reality and all black sprinters are doped,it

still doesn't explain why whites are so slow and won't sniff a podium.

Sprintgeezer wrote:

Coach--

Fun stuff, but 9.75 and 9.79 ARE mind-blowing sprint times, and they've already been done this year.

Also, anything 9.8x is mind-blowing, and has been done by guys who are still competing.

Also, of course Bolt is not one of those athletes who has suspicious test results.

He probably won't even have to dope for Moscow, with the other 3 of the Big 4 all gone--Blake, Gay, and Powell.

If he will be clean, it will be interesting to see his time, as well as how close other guys are to him.

Can you imagine a championship race in which he doesn't win?

I think we have had this discussion before...how can 9.75 and 9.79 be mind-blowing when someone has run 9.58 and 2 people have run 9.69? Mind blowing is something like sub-9.75 and from someone not named Blake, Bolt of Gay.

Hey coach!

Yes, we have had it on another thread, although I don't remember exactly where.

You understand that I was just being a little bit of a dick, right? Why don't we meet in the middle and say that what you meant was "no legal mind-blowing 100m times this year"?

TrackCoach wrote:

New and highly advance testing was used prior to and during USATFs and this will be the cleanest team the USA has fielded in decades and overall this WC will be the cleanest as well.

nice - glad to hear. (assuming true)

Makhloufi has got to be one of these abnormal blood profile guys asked to disappear - I mean for pete's sake - a viral infection 4 weeks from the meet?

Its a tenacious virus...