why does no one else see this??? galen would be the american record holder right now if solinsky had led for the first 23 laps.
someone please prove me wrong so i can be as excited as everyone else about solinksy being this fast. because after watching the stanford race i still think rupp is better.
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Welcome to Saturday night, 10 pm Pacific time, when Chris told assembled reporters "I know I'm going to take a lot of heat for sitting back and letting Galen do all the work. ... This would not have been possible without Galen and his pacers."
Or you could read the other 15 threads on this.
It was Solinsky's debut and he hadn't been saying for weeks he was going for an AR. Pretty telling for Salazar to say they thought he would just pull away, no one was expecting Chris to be there. I think you have a pacer ahead of Rupp through 9k (right about when Solinsky went) Rupp is much closer to Solinsky but it hard to argue against how well Solinsky was able to close that race down.
4:25_9:45_15:39 wrote:
why does no one else see this??? galen would be the american record holder right now if solinsky had led for the first 23 laps.
someone please prove me wrong so i can be as excited as everyone else about solinksy being this fast. because after watching the stanford race i still think rupp is better.
Hey guess, it doesnt't matter what would have happened, since it didn't happen. We will never know.
Also, maybe if Rupp wouldn't have spent the past month parading about advertising his AR attempt to the world, then maybe someone would have taken the lead.
With everyone knowing he's going for the record, nobody is going to go out of their way to make it any easier for him, even other Americans.
In the end, Solinsky didn't go out and try to run the AR, Rupp did, so if he wanted any chance he had to lead. Not our fault he couldn't man up and race when it mattered, the last 2 laps.
he could also look at rupps entire college career like when he practically came to a complete stop when chelanga tried to give up the lead at xc nationals.
sitting and kicking has been rupps modus operandi for years. the one time someone else does it to him all you fanboys kick and scream and cry like the little pussy ass pantywaist bitches you are.
The Stache wrote:
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Welcome to Saturday night, 10 pm Pacific time, when Chris told assembled reporters "I know I'm going to take a lot of heat for sitting back and letting Galen do all the work. ... This would not have been possible without Galen and his pacers."
i saw the interview and that just made me even angrier. he hadnt been across the line for more than a minute and he was already aware that he just sat on galen rupp for 25 minutes and then burned him.
as for the kick, yea i think rupp could have matched a 1:55 close after sitting on someone for that long. whats his 800m pr? 1:47? he must have still closed in 2:05. thats fast.
Your a loser. So its not about winning the race or what time you ran? It's about how you ran the race? NO, its called 'race strategy'. Each runner is entitled to run the race the way they think is to their advantage. At the end of the day, its the end result that matters.
Look what "No" posted above.
Who cares if that's the way it went down. Rupp still ran well. Everyone and their brother knew he was going to push the pace, so why not let him push? Especially if you're a newbie at the event and really don't know what to expect once you're that far into a race.
Sit and kick. That's racin' son! Ever seen Bekele sit on Tadesse or Sihine and kick on by for the gold and the glory? He did it to Geb, too. So what. That's racing! You'll see a hell of a lot more of it this summer, too, over in Europe. Who cares? If you're willing to push the pace but can't drop everyone, you damn well know what's coming in the last lap. Galen knew that and has probably know that since high school. Why? Because even I knew that in high school. I've been on both ends of the sit and kick multiple times. That's racing.
4:25_9:45_15:39 wrote:
why does no one else see this???
Have you been reading the board at all in the past 3 days???
nope. apparently this has already been talked about? i couldnt find it anywhere recent.
im excited that an american broke 27 but its obvious that rupp is in better shape and once he is in a race with someone who will run WITH him and not BEHIND him its clear that he'll go under 27 too. enjoy the piggybacked american record while it lasts solinsky.
4:25_9:45_15:39 wrote:
im excited that an american broke 27 but its obvious that rupp is in better shape and once he is in a race with someone who will run WITH him and not BEHIND him its clear that he'll go under 27 too. enjoy the piggybacked american record while it lasts solinsky.
That sure as hell isn't obvious to me.
No wrote:
Also, maybe if Rupp wouldn't have spent the past month parading about advertising his AR attempt to the world, then maybe someone would have taken the lead.
With everyone knowing he's going for the record, nobody is going to go out of their way to make it any easier for him, even other Americans.
Rupp didn't do any of the advertising/hyping. He stated he was going for it in an interview, he did not hold a press conference. Nike and the media hyped it because they knew it was going to happen, not Galens fault in the least. And saying you are going to run A pace shouldn't STOP another from also leading when they are fully capable of sitting up your butt.
I'm not saying they had to, but don't make it seem like his statement actually KEPT them from taking the lead like they were thinking "Wow I feel great and the only reason I'm not going to take a lap or even push the pace to make this even faster is because Galen said he was going for an AR."
You know full well it was because it takes risk and courage to be up front and nobody was willing to do it until 900 to go. In a championship race I'd call that smart but in a time chasing event that intelligence mixes will with lack of confidence or even cowardice. The fact is those guys just weren't confident enough to take it. Chelanga and Salel not at all and Chris not until the last 1000 or so. Understandable for Chris, not so much for Chelanga.
4:25_9:45_15:39 wrote:
why does no one else see this???
Rupp just sat there and let Solinsky do all the work when it mattered.
You play to win the game....
malmo wrote:
Rupp just sat there and let Solinsky do all the work when it mattered.
hahahahahaha. That's gold, I tell ya, GOLD!
i know im a dick wrote:
he could also look at rupps entire college career like when he practically came to a complete stop when chelanga tried to give up the lead at xc nationals.
sitting and kicking has been rupps modus operandi for years. the one time someone else does it to him all you fanboys kick and scream and cry like the little pussy ass pantywaist bitches you are.
You have absolutely no concept of Rupps "entire college career" do you?
How about the 2 times Rupp led NCAA 10K finals as an underclassman to get burned at the end? How about the time he exchanged the lead with McDougal at NCAA cross. The time he led wire to wire in the NCAA 3000 to wind up his triple? The time he led wire to wire at Pac-10 and Regional cross and beat them by like a minute over guys like Shadrack Kiptoo & Chris Derrick?
I'm guessing you've never had the pleasure or responsibility of winning a championship VS. running some mid season race, else you'd know why you race a championship to ensure one and only one thing and you run any other race for a lot of different reasons.
Running & Racing at the Elite Level 101, class dismissed.
maybe if Rupp had lost by a second or two I'd be in agreement here- but 10 seconds? Rupp just didn't have it this day.
4:25_9:45_15:39 wrote:
why does no one else see this??? galen would be the american record holder right now if solinsky had led for the first 23 laps.
someone please prove me wrong so i can be as excited as everyone else about solinksy being this fast. because after watching the stanford race i still think rupp is better.
I guess I missed the part where Rupp led for the first 23 laps.
You act like it is a requirement for the other guys to help, why should it be? Do you know their goals? For all we know they want to run 27:20 but feel good enough to hang onto Rupp for a little longer. Solinsky had a f***ing stitch! He's not going to take the lead if he's not feeling good and you wouldn't either. I first off never knew we had so many Rupp fans on this board, I thought he was hated. Second, I never thought one of the most shocking and impressive runs by an American would be so overshadowed by all this bullshit.
I thought Rupp was rabbitting...wasnt he hyping up how he was going to help be apart of the AR?