He does not get the credit he deserves.
He seems like a good guy.
He runs tough and puts his nose in it every time he steps on the track.
Nothing to dislike, people are just super jealous.
He does not get the credit he deserves.
He seems like a good guy.
He runs tough and puts his nose in it every time he steps on the track.
Nothing to dislike, people are just super jealous.
Agreed. Also I think Rupp feels pretty satisfied now. Obviously he would have liked to win the race. But then, if he really wanted to win the race he would have held back and not front run. The bottom line is that Salazar and Rupp set out to achieve a particular goal with this race and he achieved it.
If his goal was to get 4th place and to get owned on an awesome Solisnky kick, then goal accomplished!
Agreed. With how much more work he did during the race, I think he's a lot closer to Solinsky than 10 seconds.
Put them in a 26:40 race with Bekele up front and a sea of Africans so that neither guy has to lead and (1) Rupp would be a hell of a lot closer to Solinsky, it might even be a toss up (2) with how Solinsky closed, obviously 26:59 is not his limit. 26:48-26:52 is more likely.
Plus Rupp is still a year and half younger than Solinsky. Rupp should be pleased. He'll run 26:58 or faster someday...the questions is whether anyone else will lower the AR before then - Solinsky and Ritz seem likely contenders.
True. and it wasn't.
oh yawn wrote:
If his goal was to get 4th place and to get owned on an awesome Solisnky kick, then goal accomplished!
Are you guys for real? This race was setup for the purpose of breaking the AR and everyone of the top guys new it would be fast, but no one outside of Rupp had the balls to do any of the work. If I was Rupp I would be pissed as well!
In this kind of race, where there is 25 laps there is normally a certain amount of ethitique between runners, until the late stages of course, when it becomes every man for himself.
Great run by all of them, but pretty brutal by Solinsky for his drafting tactics!
oh yawn wrote:
If his goal was to get 4th place and to get owned on an awesome Solisnky kick, then goal accomplished!
his goal was to run under 27:13...he didn't hide that
after the rabbits dropped he did what he had to do to accomplish that goal
if he doesn't go out and push the pace like he did, maybe he beats Solinsky, maybe he doesn't, but the one thing we sure as hell no is the race doesn't go near as fast
solinsky ran great, rupp ran great, both accomplished their goals
you are a prick
Since Solinsky sat and kicked not only should he be disqualified from the race, you should also add at least 1:17 to his 10k time....so he really only ran like 28 something...and since Rupp had to 'pull' Chris for 10,000 meters, you should subtract AT LEAST 2 minutes from his time for all the extra work...damn, he demolished the world record!
Trying to utilize tactics that will ultimately win races and olympic/championship medals should be frowned upon in this country, and Chris needs to be punished for it!
sarcastic wrote:
Since Solinsky sat and kicked not only should he be disqualified from the race, you should also add at least 1:17 to his 10k time....so he really only ran like 28 something...and since Rupp had to 'pull' Chris for 10,000 meters, you should subtract AT LEAST 2 minutes from his time for all the extra work...damn, he demolished the world record!
Trying to utilize tactics that will ultimately win races and olympic/championship medals should be frowned upon in this country, and Chris needs to be punished for it!
Don't be a moron. Rupp gets blasted when he uses those tactics in championship and qualifying races. Was this one of those? The farthest thing from it, which is why you saw Rupp running for a record and not ensuring a win.
Look, if you put Rupp, Ritz, Teg & Solinsky in a race for the AR at 5K and Lagat is expected to break it and gets stuck leading from 3K-4.5K there is a good chance (if he stays on the pace by leading himself) that Lagat loses. Hell he might get rocked by all of them. In a championship race that all changes. Hell if any of those 5 were to get stuck leading at AR pace in the toughest part of the race their probability of winning goes to about 0%. Lagat may still have a 10% chance but normally it would be 95%.
In a flat out effort, the leader works the hardest.
sarcastic wrote:
Since Solinsky sat and kicked not only should he be disqualified from the race, you should also add at least 1:17 to his 10k time....so he really only ran like 28 something...and since Rupp had to 'pull' Chris for 10,000 meters, you should subtract AT LEAST 2 minutes from his time for all the extra work...damn, he demolished the world record!
Trying to utilize tactics that will ultimately win races and olympic/championship medals should be frowned upon in this country, and Chris needs to be punished for it!
dude you are the problem here...
no one is hating on Solinsky, nobody...he ran 26:59, thats a huge race no matter how you run it and zero people have criticized him for his tactics (ok maybe 1 or 2 people just trying to irritate everyone, I think we call them "trolls")
people are merely responding to idiots like you bashing Rupp for getting beat when his goal was to run under 27:13, which dictated his tactics
fine, Solinsky wins this one a congrats to him, but now that Rupp realizes he is on this level do you think Rupp will ever allow him to be on his heels in a record attempt again? hell no, Solinsky will either have to do his share of the work or Rupp will slow down and make it tactical (as anyone would...why pace a competitor to a record giving him a clear drafting advantage)
lets hope they both end up in a 10k together in Europe somwhere where their on equal ground, then we'll see what Rupp is truly capable of as well
why does there always have to be a bad guy? particularly after the best 2 10ks in american history
I am not a "fan" of Rupp in many ways. I don't know him personally, and never will, but the way that he presents himself in the media is atrocious. He comes off as arrogant, spoiled, and incoherent.
However, as a fan of American distance running, I absolutely support him. There's no denying that he is a huge part of the surge of American runners, and he is certainly putting in the work and development to use his talent proudly. 27:10 is an incredible race, and the way he controlled and forced the pace was a sign of strength. I am even a little sympathetic to the fact that he has now set two AR this year while losing to other Americans!
So, keep it going Rupp.
Peanuts wrote:
I am not a "fan" of Rupp in many ways. I don't know him personally, and never will, but the way that he presents himself in the media is atrocious. He comes off as arrogant, spoiled, and incoherent.
However, as a fan of American distance running, I absolutely support him. There's no denying that he is a huge part of the surge of American runners, and he is certainly putting in the work and development to use his talent proudly. 27:10 is an incredible race, and the way he controlled and forced the pace was a sign of strength. I am even a little sympathetic to the fact that he has now set two AR this year while losing to other Americans!
So, keep it going Rupp.
Just out of curiousity, do you really feel that Rupp comes of as arrogant in interviews? I've certainly seen confident and honest, but never arrogant. Kennedy was just as confident and slightly more brash but I didn't see that as arrogant from him either. Kennedy benefitted from escaping the scrutiny that runners of his level face now in the U.S. by being ahead of that.
Maybe part of it is our interpretation of arrogance. To me it's being overly confident and showing a lack of respect for peers and competitors and I have never seen that out of Rupp. In fact I like that fact that he's so open about his training, prep. and thoughts going into and out of races. Most don't do that and it's good for up and comers to hear. A lot of people hide their thoughts or goals, but Rupp puts them out there and it probably helps fuel the fire for guys like Solinsky etc. to know where Rupp wants to go.
Do you think Ritz is arrogant?
Are you guys bake? wrote:
Great run by all of them, but pretty brutal by Solinsky for his drafting tactics!
C'mon it was Solinsky's debut. He stated he felt a cramp coming on during some of the middle laps. Rupp ran awesome. I'm sure he felt confident that if he ran the AR that he'd also win the race, which is probably why he forced the pace. He'll run faster if he gets the right race in Europe. Too bad Solinsky doesn't seem interested in running anymore 10Ks this season.