Could you take a 200 lb chimpanzee in a fight?

Anybody that's not an old frail woman would fair better than she did. How many people would win the battle? Not many in my opinion. Your strategy of getting his back and choking him out is the way I'd go. The problem is getting there...I have no idea how skilled the chimp is. In the process of getting his back he might tear half your face off with his teeth.

I know very little about our primate cousins, but have heard that a 50 lb chimp could give any man all they can handle. A 200 lb chimp would be extremely badass.

seesee wrote:

So the lady in connecticut was mauled by a large chimp. It got me thinking, what would happen to me in that situation? Say you had no way to escape or use a weapon, I'm 180 lbs, and fairly strong (300 squat) but I've read chimps are roughly 4-7 times "stronger" than humans. I think I would try to confuse him by running circles around him, try to get on his back and choke him out or gouge his eyes. Anything to avoid letting him get on top of me. The question is, do you think that you would end up the same as that woman if you were put into that situation?

It´s not just a question of pure strength. A chimp has agility no man can match. Hell, it can climb a tree in a few seconds.

Odd that you ask this question as I was discussing this the other night.

There was a family in SC that owned a 5-year-old chimp. It was their pet, lived in the house, wore diapers, etc. They lived in a rural area that was mostly comprised of other family members. One night, the chimp got out of its cage and left the house. It stalked the bushes around the grandmother's house down the street. For some reason, it wanted to attack the grandmother. maybe it saw her as weak or something, who knows. Anyway, when she arrived home at night, it followed her inside and beat her. She took refuge under a futon and literally kept the thing at bay by hitting its arms with magazines when it tried to reach for her.

She could not reach the phone, and had been beaten up pretty badly, so she was stuck there for an entire 13 hours or something until the person who was feeding the monkey realized he had escaped.

The family decided to keep the monkey, despite it attacking the grandmother who spent two weeks in the hospital, and the grandmother never pressed charges. This never made media attention for some reason, I am not sure why.

The only reason I know about this is because I am friends with the cousin, who basically told the family he was going to come shoot the monkey himself if they did not put it down or send it to some sort of zoo. They finally did give it to some zoo, after like 3 months.

Talking to my friend, he says there is NO WAY any man could take a 3 foot chimp in a hand-to-hand fight. They are just too nimble.

Just to add...

The grandmother's house was totaled by the monkey. Every single light was pulled from the wall, the drywall was torn to shreds, furniture was shredded, etc. The place literally had to be gutted and remodeled, top to bottom.

To add a bit of context, this is a very, very well-to-do family. Although they are from rural SC, they are all very well educated and have more money than God, so this isn't a bunch of toothless moonshiners running around. The house is probably a 2 million dollar home.

Can you swing from tree to tree in the canopies of the Amazon jungle? If the answer is no, then you would probably get your ass kicked.

No one should kid himself. None of you would have the vaguest chance against a chimp. They're stunningly strong. The chimp destroyed her hands and ripped her face off. I doubt even a WWF guy hopped up on crystal meth could manage that.

"To add a bit of context, this is a very, very well-to-do family. Although they are from rural SC, they are all very well educated and have more money than God, so this isn't a bunch of toothless moonshiners running around. The house is probably a 2 million dollar home"

This may be the case, but they owned a Chimp. Really? A Chimp? A dog wouldn't do? Being rich doesn't always equal being smart. They should be slapped and have their face ripped off for caging a Chimp in a 2 million dollar home. Dumbasses!!

a 200 lb chimp would be an especially large one, too. God help you if you take on a chimp that size.

Bruinboy wrote:

This may be the case, but they owned a Chimp. Really? A Chimp? A dog wouldn't do? Being rich doesn't always equal being smart. They should be slapped and have their face ripped off for caging a Chimp in a 2 million dollar home. Dumbasses!!

LOL, I agree. They are crazy. FWIW, I was referring to the Grandmother's home, but I am sure theirs is upwards of $2 Million as well.

That was my point, how did the law not get involved? Probably some sort of nepotism.

The problem with chimps/primates is that they are physically active all day long/all lifetime long. They are in tremendous shape.

How would a 180 lb man fare against a chimp? Well, how would a 180lb American man fare against Haile Gebreselassie in a marathon?

I'd rather face a cheetah while armed with a knife in a small room, that's for sure.

seesee wrote:

So the lady in connecticut was mauled by a large chimp. It got me thinking, what would happen to me in that situation? Say you had no way to escape or use a weapon, I'm 180 lbs, and fairly strong (300 squat) but I've read chimps are roughly 4-7 times "stronger" than humans. I think I would try to confuse him by running circles around him, try to get on his back and choke him out or gouge his eyes. Anything to avoid letting him get on top of me. The question is, do you think that you would end up the same as that woman if you were put into that situation?

There isn't a man alive who would have any chance whatsoever against a 200 lb chimp.

"running circles around him"??? When he's 3 times faster than you? I don't think so.

The chimp would be on top of you before you had time to blink. At that point you're just waiting to die.

Good luck.

To the OP. If you are anything like the average runner, you wouldn't stand a chance against a 20 lb baby chimp. you being 180 lbs and squatting 300 lbs means nothing in regards to who would win. They are wild animals with natural instincs to KILL. They are born killers who kill animals of all sizes with their bare hands every day of their lives. They are much better trained at killing than any human alive and like you mentioned 4 - 7 times stronger and probably 10 times more agile.

Like I said. I'd put my money on a 20 lb baby chimp over you. 200 lb chimp is absolutely huge! 5 men in a room with no weapons against a chimp that size would still lose.

I had a friend who was a Senior Trainer at the San Diego Zoo for the large apes and chimps etc. He said and 80lb chimp was about 4x's the strength of a health grown man. The Chimps have muscle fibers that are so tight and robust enough tendons and bones that they can pull down small trees in the wild. He said he witnessed trainers losing fingers, suffering broken hands, and having sever bites from the chimps. An interesting side note, even at the San Diego Zoo, most of the great apes were either Hollywood retirees or animals taken from private owners at some point in there life.

Probably the funniest story is when one of the trainers got his hands too close to the silver back through the feeding door that he had his index finger bitten off. In order to get the finger back, my buddy had to trade the silver back some prunes.

I had a chance to go to the back room area of the Silver Back exhibit and the size of the dominant male was astounding. He saw me and slowly put his hand through the cage(his hand was about 18 inches long). I said "oh, are they friendly that way?" My buddy says "If he got a hold of your hand or arm, he would rip it off. You are a threat to him and he is cunning enough to try to lure you in!" Crazy experience.

How fast are chimps? I don't just mean quick and nimble in a small area, I mean if I take off at full speed, can it run me down? Those guys aren't designed for bipedalism the way we are.

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I'd put my money on a 20 lb baby chimp over you.

Although I am fully aware of the immense strength of chimps, I highly doubt that a 20 lb chimp could take down a fully grown, healthy human male.

seesee wrote:

So the lady in connecticut was mauled by a large chimp. It got me thinking, what would happen to me in that situation? Say you had no way to escape or use a weapon, I'm 180 lbs, and fairly strong (300 squat) but I've read chimps are roughly 4-7 times "stronger" than humans. I think I would try to confuse him by running circles around him, try to get on his back and choke him out or gouge his eyes. Anything to avoid letting him get on top of me. The question is, do you think that you would end up the same as that woman if you were put into that situation?

A 300 squat is nothing, man, get over yourself. Go on youtube and you will find 85 year old woman and 12 year olds doing that (some women have really strong legs). That chimp would aniliate you.

Case in point, a girl who can match you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jNEJB6tzbkU

I wasn't listing my squat strength to brag, only to say that I'm a reasonably sized man and much stronger than that 50 year old lady. I know a chimp is much faster and more agile than I am. I was saying was I would try to confuse him, and then attack him in a way he wouldn't expect. I think my plan would be to make very sudden movement in hopes of exposing his back then apply a rear-naked choke. I was just wondering how you think an athletic male of reasonable size would stand vs. this older woman.