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Please Explain how to Increase the anaerobic engine described by Mr. Canova 11/6/2009 7:53AM Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
Need some help here.

I'm reading some older posts by Canova and he speaks about increasing the anaerobic ENGINE. He goes into some workouts and what not but his English isn't great so I need help translating and/or further explanation.

What type of workouts for 5k/10k runners?

This is what I was reading:
When I begin to train a Kenyan athlete, of sure, if he's talented, he's already able running 400m in 53/54 sec, while is yet 16 years old. We have many Kenyans not able running fast among Marathon runners. Many of them, able running 2:07 - 2:10, are not able running under 55 secs in 400m. But you have to think that your max. speed is not connected with your FINAL SPEED. An example, not from a Kenyan. In the past, Italian Alberto Cova was considered unbeatleble in final lap, winning European Ch. '82, World Ch. '83, Olympic Games '84 and Europe Cup '85 (5000 and 10000) with his terrible final kick. In Helsinki '83, he finished with 53.2 last lap. I and his coach Giorgio Rondelli were curious to see his real speed, so, two weeks after WCH, he ran for fun 400m during a local meeting. HE RAN 52.8, almost the same time of his last lap !
So, for example, I'm sure that Stephen Cherono and Nicholas Kemboi are not able running under 50.0, and I think that also Gebre and Bekele are not able running under 50.0. The final sprint in 10000 and also 5000m IS A SPRINT OF AEROBIC RUNNERS, not a sprint OF FAST RUNNERS. If you are an athlete able running 3000m in 8'30" (so, not very good) and you run a 3000m in 10' with Maurice Greene, and then you go for a full final lap free, YOU WIN, NOT MAURICE GREENE. So, the real problem is YOUR ANAEROBIC THRESHOLD LEVEL. The best African runners have a AnT of about 23km per hour, so they are able running under 2'45" per km in Steady-State. It means that, when they run in 28', THEY DON'T USE THEIR ANAEROBIC ENGIN, so when they decide to sprint THEIR SITUATION IS THE SAME OF BEFORE RUNNING.
Different problem is to develop their strenght and muscular power. So, we work very much in that direction, using special Circuits uphill (lasting from 1:30 to 6 min), and expecially we use very much work of short sprints climbing, lasting from 10 to 20 secs (depending on the gradient), for developing SPECIFIC STRENGHT and RECRUITING THE MOST PART OF FIBRES, what normally long runners are not able to do.
So, I can say that 30 % of mileage is for regenerating (very slow, for making the lactate lower), 30 % is for building base (long run at moderate-medium pace), 20-25 % is around the Race Pace, with the goal of improving endurance (so is not important running faster, but running longer : if you go for 20 x 400m with 1 min recovery, your development is 20 x 500m then 20 x 600m or 20 x 400m with only more 30 secs of recovery, at the same speed), 5-10 % is for developing speed (all faster of 10% in relation of race pace is speed), and 5% is for strenght endurance.
RUNNING MIDDLE DISTANCE IS A MATTER OF SPECIFIC ENDURANCE, NOT OF SPEED, but we must understand what endurance means. Very long and slow run is not endurance, is general resistance, good for a beginner, not for a top runner. In every event, final goal is RUNNING LONGER AND FASTER, not only longer and slow, or short and faster.
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RE: Please Explain how to Increase the anaerobic engine described by Mr. Canova 11/6/2009 5:37PM - in reply to q&a Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
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RE: Please Explain how to Increase the anaerobic engine described by Mr. Canova 11/6/2009 5:37PM - in reply to q&a Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
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this was all pretty obvious 11/6/2009 6:45PM - in reply to q&a Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

q&a wrote:

Need some help here.

What type of workouts for 5k/10k runners?

This is what I was reading:
When I begin to train a Kenyan athlete, if he's talented, he's already able to run 400m in 53/54 sec prior to age 16. Many Kenyan marathoners, guys running 2:07 - 2:10, cannot even break 55. So, maximum speed doesn't determine long distance race speed. Take a non-Kenyan example. In the past, Italian Alberto Cova was considered unbeatable in the final lap, winning European Champs in '82 and '83, the Olympic Games in '84 and the European Cup in '85 (5000 and 10000) with his terrific final kick. In Helsinki '83, he finished with a 53.2 second last lap. His coach Giorgio Rondelli and I were curious to see his real speed, so, two weeks after World Champs, he ran the 400m for fun during a local meet. HE RAN 52.8, almost the same time as his last lap !
To give a few examples, I'm sure that neither Stephen Cherono, Nicholas Kemboi, Haile Gebrselassie, nor Kenenisa Bekele can run under 50.0 for 400m. The final sprint in the 5000m and 10000m is determined by aerobic ability, not maximum speed. If you can run 3000m in 8:30 (therefore, a candy ass) and you run a 3000m in 10:00 with Maurice Greene (the great American sprinter and former world record holder), and then go all out for the final lap, YOU WILL WIN, NOT MAURICE GREENE. So, the real problem in your only running 8:30 3k is not your maximum sprinting speed, since you can outkick the then greatest sprinter; the problem is YOUR ANAEROBIC THRESHOLD LEVEL. The best African runners have a AnT of about 23km per hour, so they can run under 2:45 per km in Steady-State (27:30 10k). That means that, when they run 10k in 28:00, THEY DON'T USE THEIR ANAEROBIC ENGINE, so when they decide to sprint THEIR SPRINTING ABILITY IS THE SAME AS BEFORE RUNNING. That is, in a race below their Anaerobic Threshold of 27:30/10k, they have not expended any of their sprinting power and can close the race just as fast as if they were racing 400m fresh.
A different problem is to develop their strength and muscular power. So, we work very much in that direction, using special Circuits uphill (lasting from 1:30 to 6 min), and especially we work a lot on short hill sprints, lasting from 10 to 20 secs (depending on the gradient), to develop SPECIFIC STRENGTH and to RECRUIT THE GREAT MAJORITY OF FAST TWITCH? MUSCLE FIBERS, which long runners normally are not able to do.
So, I can say that 30% of training mileage is to regenerate (very slow, to lower the lactate threshold), 30% is to build base (long runs at moderate-medium pace), 20-25% is around Race Pace, with the goal of improving endurance (so it is not important to run faster, but to run longer: if you do 20 x 400m with 1 min recovery at first, you develop during your training by later doing 20 x 500m, then 20 x 600m or 20 x 400m with only 30 secs of recovery, at the same speed, rather than by increasing your speed), 5-10% is to develop speed (God knows what I mean here! Maybe: faster than race pace or 10 percent faster than race pace?), and 5% is for strength endurance.
RUNNING MIDDLE DISTANCE IS A MATTER OF SPECIFIC ENDURANCE, NOT SPEED, but we must understand what endurance means. Very long and slow runs are not endurance runs; they are general resistance, good for a beginner, not for a top runner. In every event, the final goal is to RUN LONGER AND FASTER, not only longer and slow, or short and faster.
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RE: this was all pretty obvious 11/6/2009 7:34PM - in reply to jjjjjjjj Reply | Return to Index | Report Post
He's actually talking about increasing the aerobic engine, not anaerobic.

All he's saying, I think, is basically this: If you can improve your aerobic capacity/anaerobic threshold so much that you can run 25 laps at race pace without tapping into anaerobic energy systems, you have saved up all your anaerobic power and can use it on the last lap and run very close to your all-out ability for 400.

Here's a key quote:

when they run 10k in 28:00, THEY DON'T USE THEIR ANAEROBIC ENGINE, so when they decide to sprint THEIR SPRINTING ABILITY IS THE SAME AS BEFORE RUNNING. That is, in a race below their Anaerobic Threshold of 27:30/10k, they have not expended any of their sprinting power and can close the race just as fast as if they were racing 400m fresh.


What he says after this, starting with "a different problem," is mainly unrelated as far as I can tell.
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