ANy insights into his training as he's getting some fantastic results? QUick google shows that he was raised in Kerns at 800m altitude.
ANy insights into his training as he's getting some fantastic results? QUick google shows that he was raised in Kerns at 800m altitude.
You can be trained by him
He is connected to Stephane Franke, nough said.
Is this like the Kevin Bacon game?
Franke was dirty and so were/are his athletes, Kallabis anyone!
He has no realtionship with Stefan Franke. He's self-coached and has spent the last several years going to kenya for his marathon training ramp-ups. Training with 206-208 guys will help. www.viktor-roethlin.ch
Rosa is helping him
Runbird wrote:
He has no realtionship with Stefan Franke. He's self-coached and has spent the last several years going to kenya for his marathon training ramp-ups. Training with 206-208 guys will help.
http://www.viktor-roethlin.ch
He was connected to Franke and some of his athletes for a long time.
sasafe wrote:He was connected to Franke and some of his athletes for a long time.
Source?
jareldulce wrote:
ANy insights into his training as he's getting some fantastic results? QUick google shows that he was raised in Kerns at 800m altitude.
Well, I use his training system. As he claims that he's using it himself, at least the basics should be the same. He says that he is running upto 250km per week and he is doing a lot of additional strength training.
The long runs are run faster than what's common (internet) sense. He uses a "finish strong" approach. (well look like he races the last 5km of a marathon, it pays...)
The fast repetition based speed work (e.g. 200m repetitions) is done before the stamina phase. It belongs to early base-building and is not put near the race-phase (that's a big difference to lets say Lydiard). The number of repetitions and the speed is also (to my concern) more intensive than what you may find in other programs (e.g. Daniels).
Btw: there is no "just cumulating miles/kilometers" phase. Speed, Stamina, VO2max-intervals are always a part of the training (with different priority of course).
For the marathon a lot of long intervals (e.g. 3600m up to 5000m depending on your ability) at around 15k/HM speed is used.
The tempo-runs were somewhat "unusual" when I did them the first time. After warming-up you are asked to run at a very slow pace for around 30-40minutes (making your legs falling into sleep) and then you have to switch to 15k/HM speed for another 25-40minutes. Quite interesting feeling in your legs.
Ok, enough about speed and so on. Another big point are the "normal" runs: For an American the intensity is probably very low. It's partly _far_ below what Karvonen considered to be to point where a run shows effects.
Recovery runs are even more slow (under 65%HRmax).
Victor stresses that this at least as important as the rest of his training-system.
To sum that up: Victor knows NO forbidden zone (see Daniels). In fact he even says that the intensity that other coaches see as a forbidden zone is very important.
He is no friend of cumulating miles at low speed and adding fast intervalls/tempo runs. The "middle" would be the missing point here.
BTW: I have never heard that he is connected to Stephane Franke. Anyway: Both are speaking German, both are runners and are living quite close (if you see it with American eyes). So why shouldn't they have met before?
Maybe you shouldn't always cry for doping but think about the fact that another way of training may change things, too.
Sorry a bit long...
Atanvarno wrote:
sasafe wrote:He was connected to Franke and some of his athletes for a long time.Source?
He wrote about it on his homepage, Franke was/is also talkin about it as a commentator on Eurosport.
He progress over the last 9 years is very interesting. Debuted at 2:13 in Hamburg in 1999 and then ran 2:12 in 2000 at Rotterdam. This is his 3rd time under 2:10, the first being 2:09:55 at Zurich in 2005.
...which is a shame because it's a great site.
When someone who has obviously dedicated their whole life (for a long time) to running the marathon I’d prefer just to say well done...and maybe try and learn from what they have been doing and how they live their life.
If he ran 2.09 two years ago then one would hope he has been drug tested regularly since. It's not his fault if he hasn't been.
In my experience the people who always cry ‘drugs cheat’ are very small-minded person who has given up on their own dreams.
Well done Viktor and good luck at the O's!
sasafe wrote:
He was connected to Franke and some of his athletes for a long time.
He wrote about it on his homepage, Franke was/is also talkin about it as a commentator on Eurosport.
I can find no reference to it at all. Until you provide a link we will all assume you've just made this up.
heres a pic of Rothlin training with Franke and drug cheat Kallabis(who went from being a 8:09 steepler back to nowhere) in Kenya:
heres a pic of Rothlin training with Franke and drug cheat Kallabis(who went from being a 8:09 steepler back to nowhere) in Kenya:
seems like a similar story to Simon Vroemen whho seemed to get out at the 'peak' of his career.
Simon Vroemen, whose coach was doping children in East Germany back in the days....
who is the coach?
sasafe wrote:
He is connected to Stephane Franke, nough said.
Suzy Favor Hamilton had Jos Hermens as manager, nough said.
