I ran 9:30s for 3200m and got a full-ride to a school in C-USA. My rival that went 9:25 got a full ride to Wake Forest and the other to Miami. Most of Division I full rides are to 915-9:35 kids. Sub-9:15 kids go to Stanford, Colorado, big programs.
I ran 9:30s for 3200m and got a full-ride to a school in C-USA. My rival that went 9:25 got a full ride to Wake Forest and the other to Miami. Most of Division I full rides are to 915-9:35 kids. Sub-9:15 kids go to Stanford, Colorado, big programs.
To the post that said a 58 second 2:21 girl couldn't get a scholarship..... there are about 75 D1 schools in the country that would give her some money.
Some head coaches are just odd at giving out money. We have had distance runners on fulls that wont score in our conference champioships but all american sprints/jumps/throws on partials. Just depends on who is controling the purse strings.
Read the Wake and Miami standards that they publish. I guess you are calling the coaches liars. The walk-on standard for Wake is 9:18, starting scholarship is 9:10, and full is 8:55. So your slow buddy can't even walk-on let alone receive any type of scholarship. Read the other thread to see that Indiana essentially has 25 guys on the roster who are faster than your fake full scholarship number. When you say that sub 9:15 kids go to Stanford, Indiana has a dozen guys under that number and they are no powerhouse. You are way out of touch.
Maybe girl wrote:
Girls can walk on with a 58. That’s not too uncommon. It’s equivakent to a guy walking on with a 9:25 3200.
T&F, 400m runners are valuable. Most NCAA D1 women T&F teams have a hard time finding four sub-58 400m women. No 4 x 3200m relay in college.
Weird flex but ok.
Please some real facts wrote:
Read the Wake and Miami standards that they publish. I guess you are calling the coaches liars. The walk-on standard for Wake is 9:18, starting scholarship is 9:10, and full is 8:55. So your slow buddy can't even walk-on let alone receive any type of scholarship. Read the other thread to see that Indiana essentially has 25 guys on the roster who are faster than your fake full scholarship number. When you say that sub 9:15 kids go to Stanford, Indiana has a dozen guys under that number and they are no powerhouse. You are way out of touch.
Dude you are a way out of touch. 9:15 is super fast. Indiana doesn’t have 25 guys that ran that fast in HS.
Knucklehead all wrote:
If I was a coach who offered scholarships for 9:40 guys or some of these silly times being pushed here, I would post my info
Coach Smith
D1 or NAIA college No name
Email xx and phone yy
$$ for 9:40
He would have hundreds of guys contact him who are even faster. Can someone now see why the assertions don’t make sense? We all know kids who are desperately searching for a team that will take them. Getting money would make it even better. I have 3 seniors on the team right now who are in that category. One is leaning toward D3, one is leaning toward walking on at a D2, and the 3rd is thinking about hanging it up and going to the local P5 state school to save money. They told him if he breaks 9:20 or 4:20 this spring, he can walk on.
Are there any colleges which are very restrictive or otherwise undesirable to a lot of people (restrictive honor code or something)?
Maybe it was the inclusion of the .30 that got the school’s attention?
Are there age requirements for these scholarships? At 46 I would enjoy going back to school with all expenses paid.
Indiana University has that many on their roster. The point is that every respectable is loaded with guys under 9:15. The only guys Stanford is taking are 8:55 guys.
I know a guy who got a partial scholarship at a D1 with a 4:32 1600. Not every school has loads of fast runners beating down their doors. Only the Sith speak in absolutes.
Piling on wrote:
Still not seeing the names of those schools being revealed so that the hundreds of runners and parents and coaches reading this can contact them. It’s because they don’t exist. Schools are bad because they have fewer scholarships. Funded Schools are bad in certain event groups because they put their scholarships into another event group. It is actually less likely that you will get a scholarship in distance events at school who is bad at distance. I have seen kids get offended when they get a small offer from a decent distance school but are only offered a walk on spot at schools that were crappy in distance but were decent in sprints and jumps.
IU dumb wrote:
Indiana University has that many on their roster. The point is that every respectable is loaded with guys under 9:15. The only guys Stanford is taking are 8:55 guys.
So like Kyle Burks who ran 9:21 in HS?
or Marcus Ellington 9:41?
Jacob Gebhardt 9:18?
Kenneth Hagen 9:24?
Jackson Jett 9:22?
Reese Jordan 9:38?
Daniel Michalski 9:41?
Colin Murphy 9:24?
And a decent amount of the guys who did break 9:15 did so their senior year. I'm guessing they were probably talked to the IU coach a little bit before the end of their senior track season....
My point is, yes it takes some really fast times to get significant scholarship at some of the middle to top P5 D1 programs. But a 9:25 kid with good grades is able to atleast talk to coaches about walking on or smaller scholarships AND can likely get decent scholarship at Mid-Majors.
LOL at ignorance wrote:
I know a guy who got a partial scholarship at a D1 with a 4:32 1600. Not every school has loads of fast runners beating down their doors.
Look deeper into the stats. D1 universities do have 4:10 1500m guys. They are called decathlon athletes!
Only the Sith speak in absolutes.
Piling on wrote:
Still not seeing the names of those schools being revealed so that the hundreds of runners and parents and coaches reading this can contact them. It’s because they don’t exist. Schools are bad because they have fewer scholarships. Funded Schools are bad in certain event groups because they put their scholarships into another event group. It is actually less likely that you will get a scholarship in distance events at school who is bad at distance. I have seen kids get offended when they get a small offer from a decent distance school but are only offered a walk on spot at schools that were crappy in distance but were decent in sprints and jumps.
I'm a cross coach at an NAIA school in the upper Midwest. FYI, in cross and track in the NAIA, there is just one division. There are two NAIA divisions for basketball but they have already decided to combine those in the near future.
We just completed our first season of cross. You can call it desperate, I prefer to say that we are trying to build a team and so I gave scholarships (1/4 to 1/2 partial tuition) to guys who ran 17:30 to 18:00 or even slower than that. I think there are a lot of NAIA teams that struggle to fill rosters (the problem is much greater on the women's side). At least that is the case in our conference. There are also some very good programs. I am hoping that the recruiting standard will raise (better kids) as the years go by and there are signs of that happening already.
There is a place for ANYONE who wants to run in college and it is likely that there is money out there, too. Keep looking. Contact coaches.
Coach, you sound sincere. Why not provide your contact information so that fast runners can reach out to you? I am aware of some runners in the upper midwest who are currently looking for schools. They have XC PRs of 16 minutes.
XC PRs or 16:00 are pretty slow.
I ran 9:30 (3200m) and 15:17 XC.
Isn't Tuohy running around 16:00? Why would DI contact you with a 16:00 time?
D1 won't but the NAIA coach is offering cash for 17:30. Betting he doesn't provide his name.
Can vouch. I ran around 9:20 and made the MSU roster after having talked to several quality D1s including two other power 5 schools. I think the misconceptions on these threads come from people who never came remotely close to running D1 and have no knowledge of the process.
What are you vouching for? We saw that the MSU roster has several guys slower than 9:30 so we already know that they have a bunch of walk-ons but they have many at 9:05-9:10 also. Other than being larger than most P5 rosters, the ratio of guys over 9:20 to under 9:20 is similar to other P5 schools. Anecdotal evidence is what misleads athletes. There will always be a 10 minute guy getting a scholarship and an 8:55 guy who walked on somewhere. If one person wins the lottery and tells everyone that they won it makes it appear more likely that we all can win but if we know that only 1 in 1 million will win, that is more valuable information.
Do 18:30 girls get scholarships? If so, how much and to what kind of schools?