Why is the Nike Pegasus 35 turbo $180???

Jjdjdhfdjsj wrote:

As for the price, it has to do with the production of the materials used to make the shoe, specifically the materials also used in the Zoom Fly/4%. It’s not easy to make these shoes. It’s expensive. So, similaraly to the Zoom Fly/4% there will be a limited release of the Peg Turbos.

Yep, they cost Nike $2.80 to make instead of $2.00. They have to make that money back somehow...

Strange people here wrote:

SP wrote:

Thanks Urban B for the explanation. I think "Strange people here" is the dumb/obtuse one as they did not understand my question. Zoom Fly foam vs 4% foam. I now understand is has more to do with the plate. Thank you. Asking since I came down with a severe case of PF, 'I think' training in the Zoom Fly. I wanted to know why Kipchoge did not use Zoom Fly to train. Am watching closely to see what Hasay ends up training in after her latest injury. Before, a lot of her training pics seemed to have her in Zoom Fly or 4%.

I understood it just fine, and I explained it appropriately. What I don't understand is how you even find your way to work each day. Retard work program, maybe?

Watch out so your mom doesn´t come into your room when you write stuff like that. You might get grounded.

One suggestion: only write here when she´s at my place.

Gwen does a review on IG. She says it's part React Foam and part 4% foam. Get yer facts straight, spindly leggers.

At first these seemed overbuilt, but now they are my go-to if there is training on roads

Nike Rival 6 Uni Shoe Bl M9.0/W10.5 $ 63.88 RW

I wonder if the high priced shoes appeal is a combination of self-and-mass hypnosis... 'it must be good since its so expensive and world class runners use them'. If you are reading this, Big Shoe does not yet have mod powers in this forum.

Strange people here wrote:

SP wrote:

So Kipchoge didn't like the Zoom Fly due to the foam?

Huh? Where do you read into that? No, Kipchoge wanted something similar to the vf4% tech; but as part of an everyday trainer- not a racer. You people are either purposefully obtuse or just plain dumb. I can't determine which it is.

$180? It's probably a great shoe but definitely not worth the price.

Urban B wrote:

As to the price, it's more expensive because it has more expensive stuff in it. Same price as the Ultra Boost, so the market is clearly willing to buy at that price point.

Another one believes the marketing hype!!!!

All running shoes are made of thermo-elastomers/polymers. Different raw materials and processes provide different performance characteristics. Raw material prices are basically the same no matters what is used. Manufacturing is cheap because they have an unlimited supply of workers coming from the country who need money to send back home to their families. These young girls work for 4-5 years then get sent back home once they can’t meet production numbers and lose their fine eye sight and manual dexterity.

Nike charges what the market will bear and publications like Runners World ensures an endless supply of lemmings.

Ugh. Raw materials? Really? Which do you think is more expensive, a ton of copper wire or a ton of copper pipe? That's all the econ I have time to explain. You're on your own to try to understand the rest of it.

You have to pay for the extra weight. That is why the Floatride Fast is 2oz lighter and $40 cheaper.

Gravy wrote:

Is this like 2.7% faster or something? Is it really worth $100 more than the standard Pegasus 34?

...because idiots will buy this sh%t. Nike knows they can keep charging more and more for shoes that last a season and then get replaced by something "cooler."

Seriously, the sneaker freaker, "kicks" people are the worst thing to happen to running shoes.

Since every serious runner has switched to Hoka, Nike has to make more on each shoe because they sell so few of them.

Economics of being washed up..... wrote:

Since every serious runner has switched to Hoka, Nike has to make more on each shoe because they sell so few of them.

The Clifton was good, but the Vapor Fly is way better.

Every serious runner has switched to Hoka? I don't see it.

Economics of being washed up..... wrote:

Since every serious runner has switched to Hoka, Nike has to make more on each shoe because they sell so few of them.

I hope you’re kidding. No one has broken 2:10 in the marathon yet in Hokas. I don’t know any serious marathoners other than the sponsored NAZ Elite who wear that heavy Hoka garbage. Everyone is wearing the 4%s right now for the marathon.

Urban B wrote:

Ugh. Raw materials? Really? Which do you think is more expensive, a ton of copper wire or a ton of copper pipe? That's all the econ I have time to explain. You're on your own to try to understand the rest of it.

I'd say the pipe due to the more complex manufacturing method involved. Unless you are talking about wound or coated wire?

Why?

Because people are willing to pay it.

What people. Stupid white American hobby joggers who like running in 10 oz running shoes

Nike doesn't care who is buying them. They just care that someone is...

The dynamic racing stripe sends a message to other runners that you mean business.

Don't forget this is one of the first running shoes launched under the looming clouds of a 25% import tariff.

So much misinformation in this thread:

Kipchoge wanted a daily trainer - yes. BUT the shoe they gave him wasn't the Pegasus Turbo. It was a custom job with 100% ZoomX - probably some kind of a plate, and ZoomAir in the forefoot. They are very thick in stack height. It has zero relation to the consumer version Peg Turbo other than the upper that's stitched onto the sole.

The consumer Peg Turbo has a layer of ZoomX (Pebax - same material as vaporflies) on top of a layer of React foam. Durability has been lackluster, and I think you really need a plate if you're going to have ZoomX in a shoe. Reebok does Pebax much better in their Floatride Run Fast in that they put it on the bottom of the shoe and have an EVA stabilizer wrapped around the top. Reebok's shoes are also $40 less.

Aside: The new Zoom Fly Flyknit is a much better and more versatile shoe than the Peg Turbo. It's very different from the crappy OG Zoom Fly, and can be run in at a variety of paces. It has 100% React foam with a small carbon fiber plate (much smaller than that in the Vaporfly in width) in roughly the same configuration as the Vaporfly. It's fast when needed and slow when needed. It's also $20 cheaper.

Nike ZFF and the RBK FRF are the thinking man's Peg Turbo.