Tin man needs to cool it

2nd most prolific to Ryun? did you forget Webb?

malmo wrote:

You need to cool it -- soak your head in a bucket of ice water.

Both Tinman and Hunter had a very grounded approach to the Pre Classic, and every other race he's competed in. Hunter is the 2nd most prolific high school miler in history behind Ryun. He had every reason to be focused on Webb's record.

I'm not going very far out on a limb to say this; Hunter's parents, nor anyone else, will ever be coming to you for advice in the next century.

I expected Mary's performances to drop. Often females have to go through some changes in their body in 11th & 12th grade or a little later in university. Hopefully she'll be able to come back in a few years.

Mary's arms wrote:

Mary needed to correct her arm carriage. At that level Alberto better be working on her cross the body arm swing. Why would he ignore that? Her injuries and decline in performance have nothing to do with that.

Hunter doesn't have perfect form either. It's more of a distance runner's efficient shuffle. He will be an outstanding runner at any distance at Oregon but he'll excell more as the distance increases.

Was this thread about form or something else? Me thinks, something else.

Metric Miler, is on topic.

No, he didn't forget Webb. "Prolific" does not mean what you seem to think it does. Hunter has now broken 4 three times. Webb broke it twice in high school. Only Ryun broke 4 more times in high school.Steve Scott is the most prolific sub-4 miler ever, and that does not mean he's better than Kiprop.

800m Coach 25 wrote:

2nd most prolific to Ryun? did you forget Webb?

malmo wrote:

You need to cool it -- soak your head in a bucket of ice water.

Both Tinman and Hunter had a very grounded approach to the Pre Classic, and every other race he's competed in. Hunter is the 2nd most prolific high school miler in history behind Ryun. He had every reason to be focused on Webb's record.

I'm not going very far out on a limb to say this; Hunter's parents, nor anyone else, will ever be coming to you for advice in the next century.

Who cares? How does this effect your life? I could care less what he says as it has 0.0% effect on my life.

kadaweprofvka wrote:

Who cares?

To state the obvious, you do idiot, you care enough to come here and comment even though it has 0.0% effect on your life.

but... wrote:

No, he didn't forget Webb. "Prolific" does not mean what you seem to think it does. Hunter has now broken 4 three times. Webb broke it twice in high school. Only Ryun broke 4 more times in high school.

Steve Scott is the most prolific sub-4 miler ever, and that does not mean he's better than Kiprop.

800m Coach 25 wrote:

2nd most prolific to Ryun? did you forget Webb?

To be fair, Webb also ran well under 4 equivalent for the 1500m in his USATF final running 3:38.5 finishing 5th.

An 8:53 kid as a high school sophomore is freakishly talented. He should be sub-4:00. What Tim Man has done is surely very good work, but it 3:57 isn't that big of a stretch, given the context. Give a lot of coaches a kid with that talent and they could also guide him to that kind of time two years later.

Finisher Medal-------- wrote:

So how many sub 4 minute milers have any of you clowns coached? That's right, zilch, zero, nadda

clown hall wrote:

An 8:53 kid as a high school sophomore is freakishly talented. He should be sub-4:00. What Tim Man has done is surely very good work, but it 3:57 isn't that big of a stretch, given the context. Give a lot of coaches a kid with that talent and they could also guide him to that kind of time two years later.

I don't disagree, though plenty of coaches can ruin that kind of talent. Is 8:53 the sophomore class record? It has to be close.

Btw, Hunter just looked like he had an off day by his standards at the Bowerman Mile. He was really tying up w/300 to go. I hope he gets another crack at 3:55.

I don't like how much these high school stars are going out to run so many rabbited time trials all out chasing times. They have 4-5 years of hard college training ahead of them, their HS times are so insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

It just seems like they hit plateaus for a couple years in college if they race like that in high school. All this instant gratification comes at the expense of good long term development. The kids that run best in college (and beyond) were patient in high school and maybe took a couple shots at really fast times, but that's it.

I think in this case it's tinman going on an ego escapade, trying to increase his profile as much as he can.

tinfoil hat wrote:

I don't like how much these high school stars are going out to run so many rabbited time trials all out chasing times. They have 4-5 years of hard college training ahead of them, their HS times are so insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

It just seems like they hit plateaus for a couple years in college if they race like that in high school. All this instant gratification comes at the expense of good long term development. The kids that run best in college (and beyond) were patient in high school and maybe took a couple shots at really fast times, but that's it.

I think in this case it's tinman going on an ego escapade, trying to increase his profile as much as he can.

Yes it is clear breaking 4 for the mile is of no importance, to be one of 10 high schoolers to ever do something... Clearly running a couple all out time trials as a senior will ruin the runner.

it seems the latest crew has been trained pretty sensibly.

Luckily they don't seem to give a crap what you think