ALBERTO RELEASES STATEMENT

Can you read? He very clearly explained Galen's need for weekly shots for his allergies. How else should Salazar "address" that issue

Salazar also failed to address why there was a large bag of needles and refrigerated "allergy" medication in vials at their altitude camp.[/quote]

People need to read the response (and preferably go through the exhibits). A lot of people sound like idiots with there, "he never addressed this! or THAT!" Stop being so effing lazy and read it.

Alberto's response was pretty convincing. You know, actual emails and records and all. My respect for Rojo/Letsrun has fallen. A website that is supposedly supportive of the sport has done it a huge disservice by leading a frantic witch hunt in concert with the Daily Mail.

TJR25 wrote:

He quoted studies/statistics in the response from USATF that showed that 21% males running mid distance, long distance and the marathon in 2012 had thyroid issues from the (US), females were 23% and that 20 something percent of all of Great Britain's athletes had thyroid issues. So his rates are actually lower.

No. He said these things in regard to asthma and exercise-induced asthma (terms he seems to interchange freely) and in reference to the 2004 and 2008 Olympic teams, not 2012:

A U.S. Olympic Committee study found that 21% of female and male mid-distance, long-distance, and marathon athletes on the 2004 U.S. Olympic Team and 23% of female and male mid-distance, long-distance, and marathon athletes on the 2008 U.S. Olympic Team had exercise induced asthma. Asthma is not just a U.S. issue either. It has been reported that 21% of all athletes on Team Great Britain for the 2004 Athens Games had asthma.

I find it worth mentioning that, as big on links and "Exhibits" as he is throughout the letter, he doesn't cite any sources here.

magness just got served

Are you kidding me? The Gouchers, Magness et al were made out to look like total lunatics after this. All of the evidence he used in that particular case was easy to document and easy to bring forward. Kara could not produce a single shred of evidence that she was asked to take cytomel for a performance enhancing effect, and salazar brought forward heaps of proof that it was both known by Kara as well as in good intention that she take it.

I don't know how they will evet be able to step foot outside again.

TJR25 wrote:

Misdirection wrote:

Those 20+% figures are for ASTHMA, not thyroid

You completely fell for his weasely misdirection.

And putting that kind of obfuscation in there doesn't reflect well on him.

Even though the figures were for asthma, the whole argument is based on the fact that

1. Thyroid TUE's help athletic performance in training and/or racing, this is true (to the best of my knowledge

2. The NOP is abusing TUE's for Thyroids, which is not true, shown by the limited number of TUE's used by the NOP and the way they were used.

So basically a bunch of his runners are diagnosed with thyroid issues, but never use the TUE's. Therefore there is no problem except for some shady medical practice, which is another issue.

You don't need a TUE for thyroid meds

Another misdirection

Confirmation Bias wrote:

Rojo wrote: So the Goucher allegation hasn't been proven to be a lie as people are claiming. Salazar is providing a letter from Dr. Brown for a totally different time frame..

You are grasping for straws Robert. What you describe isn't a probable scenario, and, if it were true and the Gouchers were being honest, the Gouchers would have also disclosed, "Oh yeah well there was one time Dr. Brown told us we should use Cytomel after I had cortisone injection and Alberto did legitimate send Cytomel to us."

Also the time frames aren't as far off as you suggest. Five months after Colt's birth is April 25th 2011. The emails in which Alberto is instructed to give Kara Cytomel from Dr. Brown are 3 months later August 20th 2011. That's not as you say, "a totally different time frame."

LOL ... Goucher made the claim before Salazar's "rebuttal." Salazar has nothing to disprove he gave her Cytomel and told her get more from Rupp who had a prescription.

Keep working it PR workers and paralegals. You are not any smarter than anyone else. There is only so much money Salazar can afford to pay your firms. Expect to argue vigorously with Salazar about the fees when you send him the first bills.

I highly doubt the massuese rubbing Galen's shoulders will talk after the settlement he got from nike which resulted from the ass kicking and brain damage he got from Llewellyn Starks... Who still works for nike

All this aside, lets get to the juicy stuff...the affairs. Who was Magness banging?

i.c. dong wrote:

People need to read the response (and preferably go through the exhibits). A lot of people sound like idiots with there, "he never addressed this! or THAT!" Stop being so effing lazy and read it.

Why don't YOU read it!? By the way, it's 'THEIR' not 'THERE' you IDIOT.

row row rowbury your boat wrote:

Alberto literally provided email evidence to REFUTE prior claims.

Here is a short list of words you should look up the meanings of:

Literally

Evidence

Refute

I suspect that if I were to suffer through any more of your posts, this list would very quickly increase by several powers of two.

The fact that Salazar showed in the reports the minimal amount of TUE's they were granted shows they were not abusing TUE's.

Jeff Albertson wrote:

Thread Follwer wrote:

Bingo! Go no further than that...massive cover up and pretty well done, but I still smell a RAT!

People are really blowing the androgel test out of proportion. It sounds like they were curious whether Gatlin's explanation for his positive test was viable, thought of a rudimentary way to test it with the help of a lab, and got an answer.

It's like if I wanted to see if leaving my A/C on a low temperature would save money over just turning it on when I needed it. Run one test, get a result. Run another, compare results. I have my answer.

If anything, they proved that they could apply Androgel to Rupp AFTER a big performance and not get a positive. Why on Earth would they dope AFTER a race?

It would actually be more like if you hired a private security firm to guard your air conditioning unit while you were at work because you saw Chris Whetstine at a track meet one time and you were convinced that he was going to sneak into your house and crank it down to 50 degrees while you weren't home.

Can someone clarify on the issue of the TUEs and thyroid medication. Salazar showed they do not abuse the TUE system, however, thyroid medication can still aid training effects. Is a TUE required if you are in an out of competition mode? So could Salazar have athletes take thyroid meds for a long time during base phase, get the enhanced training affect, and then cut them off for the racing season?

Abuse Lab wrote:

TJR25 wrote:

Regardless of the interpretation of which problem(s) the stats were referring to, isn't Salazar's group the only one to be accused of abusing TUE's? So it would not be widespread in athletics. Correct me if I am wrong.

Salazar is the only coach who has his own lab that can run USADA style tests.

The lab was only used for that gel running conspiracy BS. Not TUE abuse, and you wouldn't need a lab for TUE abuse anyways, that has to come from USADA or whatever governing body gives them.

“Additionally, I have suffered from primary pituitary insufficiency, hypothyroidism and adrenal insufficiency as a result of my excessive training. These conditions are not new. I have been under the care and treatment of licensed medical doctors for them for approximately the past 25 years. They are also no secret. I fully disclosed and documented my conditions with the USATF, IAAF and USOC decades ago” – Alberto Salazar

Wait a minute. Multiple pituitary/hypothyroid/adrenal problems are more likely to be caused by steroid abuse than by “excessive training.”

TJR25 wrote:

So basically a bunch of his runners are diagnosed with thyroid issues, but never use the TUE's. Therefore there is no problem except for some shady medical practice, which is another issue.

So, you are ignoring Dr. Brown's false claims to come to your own, false, conclusion.

Good job.

CanYouEvenread wrote:

Can someone clarify on the issue of the TUEs and thyroid medication. Salazar showed they do not abuse the TUE system, however, thyroid medication can still aid training effects. Is a TUE required if you are in an out of competition mode? So could Salazar have athletes take thyroid meds for a long time during base phase, get the enhanced training affect, and then cut them off for the racing season?

Same question I had but regarding the prednisone. So it's okay for them to take "out of competition" but not okay for them to test positive for on race day? Fleshman and them are right, these rules are just dumb