Any other college students agree.."Molly" has become an absolute epidemic

you know your stuff!molly is typically methylone - a bit speedier and not insightful in the slightestkids are idiots, if real pure mdma was the problem, their wouldn't be a problem

staples that was easy wrote:

Any drug where you can die from first use/std dose is off-limits for me. I'll enjoy the music sober (or with a few beers)

As an avid dropper of E back in the day, I need to weigh in here. Molly is NOT pure MDMA. It is usually a mixture of all kinds of shit. The reason the results are so unpredictable is because you have NO IDEA what you're actually buying. Ok, we really had no idea what we were buying back then either. At least I got predictable results from my beans.

I have friends who dropped 12 beans in a night. Sure they were fvcked up for sure but no one ever went full retard on E like you stupid twats do on Molly. I feel sad for you kids if that's what you think ecstasy is supposed to feel like. E is fun. Whatever it is in Molly that you're scared of isn't MDMA.

im an azzhole wrote:

Whatever it is in Molly that you're scared of isn't MDMA.

I think that's the heart of the problem. MDMA in its pure form is totally misclassified as a Schedule I drug, but half the time it ends up getting mixed with coke, bath salts, or who knows what else.

I've never tried it, and my only hesitation to do so stems from the fact that I could never trust what I'm getting.

As far as it being an "epidemic" on college campuses, this seems like a no-brainer. A relatively affordable drug that's barely more addictive than pot that has killed almost 0 people (unless it's as a result of combining with other drugs or taking it while dehydrated or some other common sense idiot crap) that has euphoric highs and pairs well with caffeine, sex, and loud music? Of course it's gonna be a hit on college campuses.

Adulterants are scary stuff

Dancesafe provides on-site testing at many EDM events and offers self-testing kits of sale as a harm reduction service.

It has been many, many years since I would have considered anything like this but if I was going to I would certainly want to make sure I was getting something safe(er).

im an azzhole wrote:

Whatever it is in Molly that you're scared of isn't MDMA.

Where I live (Central Florida), a lot the Molly that gets tested by Law Enforcement Agencies comes back as Meth.

Long story short, don't buy Molly in Central Florida.

lkjnalksdf wrote:

im an azzhole wrote:

Whatever it is in Molly that you're scared of isn't MDMA.

Where I live (Central Florida), a lot the Molly that gets tested by Law Enforcement Agencies comes back as Meth.

Long story short, don't buy Molly in Central Florida.

...fvcking Florida.

Wow, I hate to sound like Nancy Regan or some sort of out of touch prude.

I spent a bunch of time walking around downtown seattle and portland last month. If I were to wager on ONE common thread through the lives of all of the bums I saw on the street, I'd guess that substance abuse was their uniting feature.

San Francisco, the same

Turlock, California....the same.

I think our big problem with drug education is that we say things like, "this is your brain on drugs" implying that if you use any sort of drug once, you'll be wrecked forever. Kids see people who use occasionally and don't seem wrecked, so they think, "all of this drug education stuff is a bunch of bs...I'm young and invincible." This is not the case.

This is what the case is....

If you use drugs, the chances that you will suffer a negative consequence (mental illness, depression, paranoia, etc...) go up dramatically.

I know enough people who have been lost to drug abuse to speak with a little authority.

Brother in law, stroke at age 33.

Friend growing up, dead of heroin overdose in his mid 20s.

Mom, addicted to pain meds.

Early in my career, I used to teach a class for emotionally disturbed kids. Every one of them had some sort of drug use in their life (either their own or their parents).

So, long story short, stick to what's legal....or, avoid intoxicants all together.

As a dad in his thirties, I know most people think I am just an old square, but I had some sporadic fun with drugs back in the day. Honestly, in hindsight I wish I hadn't. I was big into the Phish and Panic scene (before it was all frat boys) and I used to buy mushrooms and ecstasy from time to time. I wasn't the drug type. I did very well in school and played varsity sports (went on to get a full ride).

I think back on it and I am not sure why I thought it was okay. I mean, I would buy a pill from some dud in a parking lot and think it was okay... WTF? I mean, would you buy a sandwich from a guy hanging out behind a gas station? No, I wouldn't either. But for some reason I would buy pills and trust him. That is teenage thinking for you.

As I have gotten older and experienced things: depression, anxiety, stress. Sometimes I wonder if I did screw up something neurological as a result of the drug use.

Here is what I will say about Molly... If you are buying and using Molly, you are likely taking caffeine pills mixed with meth and some sort of solvent. You're not getting ecstasy anymore. If you're a kid that wants to party, just stick with alcohol and weed. No reason to go down the other roads. Opiates are no good; I had a friend recently die of a heroin overdose. This guy was highly functioning and wealthy. We are living in weird times.

Great replies guys, thanks.

CoachB wrote:

Wow, I hate to sound like Nancy Regan or some sort of out of touch prude.

I spent a bunch of time walking around downtown seattle and portland last month. If I were to wager on ONE common thread through the lives of all of the bums I saw on the street, I'd guess that substance abuse was their uniting feature.

San Francisco, the same

Turlock, California....the same.

Those bums on the street were probably addicted to heroin, painkillers, meth, or crack cocaine.

I doubt any of them had fallen on hard times due to smoking too much weed or using psychedelics. Frequent use of molly/ecstasy can mess you up, but such cases of addiction are quite rare compared to heroin/crack/meth.

While a popular drug at music festivals and raves, incidents associated with molly are most likely the result of college kids buying stuff that isn't actually pure MDMA but rather junk cut with meth or random research chemicals. Look up some statistics and you will see that the quality (% purity) of street drugs (not including weed) has drastically declined in recent years.

E is fun, but honestly it's not really a viable option for people once you get older and you aren't going to clubs and such.

It's a young people's party drug. It's not like you're taking Molly or E and going to a neighbor's cookout or out on a boat for the day.

The inappropriateness alone is enough to severely limit it's appeal.

No offense man, nothing is free, but i doubt your relatively spread out experiences had much influence on your stress, depression and anxiety.you are just looking for something to lean on, its hard to admit we aren't perfect, but these feelings and emotions are just part of real life.best of luck, keep running! - it helps :)

One Guy E Pills wrote:

As I have gotten older and experienced things: depression, anxiety, stress. Sometimes I wonder if I did screw up something neurological as a result of the drug use.

theSausageKING wrote:

No offense man, nothing is free, but i doubt your relatively spread out experiences had much influence on your stress, depression and anxiety.

you are just looking for something to lean on, its hard to admit we aren't perfect, but these feelings and emotions are just part of real life.

best of luck, keep running! - it helps :)

Oh, I know.

CoachB wrote:

I think our big problem with drug education is that we say things like, "this is your brain on drugs" implying that if you use any sort of drug once, you'll be wrecked forever. Kids see people who use occasionally and don't seem wrecked, so they think, "all of this drug education stuff is a bunch of bs...I'm young and invincible." This is not the case.

This is what the case is....

If you use drugs, the chances that you will suffer a negative consequence (mental illness, depression, paranoia, etc...) go up dramatically.

So, long story short, stick to what's legal....or, avoid intoxicants all together.

I think it is a huge problem with drug education (especially DARE style, do they still do that) that so much of it is a scare tactic. They do not differentiate different drugs at all.

I would not tell anybody that no harm could come from drug use and would not recommend anybody to take them (that is a decision a person has to make on their own). It is absolutely untrue that a drug is a drug, though and all of them are bad. More honesty in drug education would be beneficial.

I hope that one of the benefits we see from MJ legalization is more people using that (because it is available and accessible without legal consequences) as an alternative to some other, more destructive drugs.

"I think it is a huge problem with drug education (especially DARE style, do they still do that) that so much of it is a scare tactic. They do not differentiate different drugs at all."

Yes. It's asinine the way we treat drugs, but then have 100 beer commercials during an NFL game.

When you tell kids that if they smoke pot they're going to die,then they do it and don't die, they tend to dismiss anything you might have said about real dangerous drugs.

Weed is not "good", just like smoking anything is not good for you. Just be reasonable and honest about it.

Another reason the majority of high schools kids should forget about four year college, do community college/trade school and move on to the real world. To spend four years doing that and come out 100k in debt is insane.

gwalkerruns wrote:

Another reason the majority of high schools kids should forget about four year college, do community college/trade school and move on to the real world. To spend four years doing that and come out 100k in debt is insane.

I don't fully agree that kids should skip 4-Year colleges, but I agree that they have become a joke. Even as a wealthy kid, I still worked my butt off in college and had a job. Most of my fraternity brothers did as well.

I live in a (very good) college town and it amazes me how so many of these kids behave. It is like 24/7 drinking, drugs and parties. I drank a good deal in college, but not so brazenly.

I had kids later in life, and they can go wherever they want to go. I plan to pay for all of it. But I told them that I will not pay for a fraternity or a sorority. I have college grads and MBA students who intern at my company. These are good kids, but the stories they tell are horrifying and they make Animal House look like the honor society. Actually, Animal House was more like my college life (with studying thrown in).

I have no problem with partying, but for Pete's sake get an education, too.

It's the most widely used drug on my college team.

I just left college in NY and "molly" is definitely an epidemic.

The sad part is the kids think "molly" is ecstasy or MDMA and the kids justify their "molly" intake by using information about the potential benefits of MDMA.

As the poster from Florida mentioned above, this epidemic of "molly" is really a meth like cocktail. I have a friend who is a chemist in NY and a friend who is a chemist in NJ and their tests have shown this to be true.

I challenge anyone to get me tests of clean molly found on campuses or concerts if you do not believe me.

Thankfully I listened to Eminem growing up and he always advised his listeners to avoid these types of drugs.