NEWTON RUNNING SHOES

I thought the US was one of the richest nations in the world. I've never heard so much penny pinching talk!! Its the sport you love, therefore have a bit of pride in what you put on your feet! Banditos my arse. What a crop of shite!

And don't move to the UK. Prices are 50% more expensive over here!

UK Boy wrote:

I thought the US was one of the richest nations in the world. I've never heard so much penny pinching talk!! Its the sport you love, therefore have a bit of pride in what you put on your feet! Banditos my arse. What a crop of shite!

And don't move to the UK. Prices are 50% more expensive over here!

Perhaps there are people on the streets in the UK handing out free money for you all to buy shoes but here in the US we actually have to work for ours.

There is no "pride" involved in what I put on my feet. There is no "shame" either. Where do you come up with crap like that? I am looking for the best shoe for me but if it costs me $170 every month or two I cant afford it. So I look for a good deal.

Banditos are great shoes -- better than most I've found -- and they are cheap so I buy them.

I'd simply like to know how the Newtons perform for someone who already strikes real hard on the forefoot. That's it.

Yes, they cost too much. But I don't even think someone like myself would do ALL of his/her running in them. I'd save them for my harder days and/or races.

True, a company that cannot sell its shoes because they are too expensive will not be in business for long. But this is not Entreprenuership class.

Do they work? Can anyone who has used them shed some light on the subject? Are they FAR AND AWAY better than anything else you've used?

Here's the problem, if you're a forefoot striker, how do you judge if the shoe "works" or not... there is no pronation control, there no technology that you can have concrete evidence of an improved product that improves performance. Heck, for $170, the durability of the shoe better be top-notch, but by looking at the pictures, I could see a faster fore-foot striker quickly wear away those outsole pads (due to the amount of friction at higher speeds).

My other observation, if you are a true supinator, running on the lateral side of your foot, than those "pads" don't assist you at all and are dead-weight. Also, a forefoot striker is going to over-pronate due to the sheer force of motion (not everyone - look at second to last row, second picture of Lagat over-pronating in midstance).

http://www.mensracing.com/image_view.php?p=79&s=photos/2006/usaoutdoors06/day5m

Check out the above photos of Bernard Lagat and Gabe Jennings (any any other elite runner, I know Newtons are just not for Elites, but here's my point), all in a supinated position (my foot lands more like Myers in this shot, with no splaying of the foot, thus not everyone), which is the reason spike plates have been shifted over the years, the Kennedy's are a prime example, to maximize foot landing and push off.

Just my thoughts, but I'll keep reading for those purchasing the shoes and giving feedback.

Very good points, Seguru. I strike like Lagat (about the only thing we do similarly), which is precisely why I'm skeptical as to whether the Newtons would actually 'work' for me. My ankle does turn inward slightly at the midstance (it has to), but my weight is never fully transferred to the medial side of my foot.

Your point about the dead-weight is correct. Supinated forefoot strikers will not need the innermost 'pad/s' on the Newtons. I fear that I would quickly wear down the lateral pads (and the entire lateral forefoot for that matter). That's what I do to my other shoes.

By asking if they 'work,' I am basically asking if the Newton pads are able to absorb enough of the impact to make a real difference. Pronation issues aside, will I feel a real energy return if I am only utilizing 2 or 3 of these pads?

Here are several links about people who have tried Newtons. Its all the talk over on that forum b/c like someone said, they are marketing to triathletes (good move as most triathletes have the expendable income and will pay for just about anything to go faster).

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?post=1265028

;search_string=newton;guest=11903959#1265028

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?post=1301500

;search_string=newtons;guest=11903959#1301500

http://forum.slowtwitch.com/gforum.cgi?post=1303451

;search_string=newton;guest=11903959#1303451

Anybody else tried the Newton's? Any updates greatly appreciated. I am a heavy forefoot striker with some minor foot problems and wonder if this shoe would be a good option?

I finally broke down and bought a pair of the racing flats. Not the motion-control ones but the other ones.

They certainly work as advertised. It is damn near impossible to land on your heel in these shoes. Still the feeling was a bit weird. It took about two miles each run before I got used to them and they felt normal.

Still I DID to get used to the feeling and I am a forefoot striker to begin with. Still, in every run I've done in them, I felt great once I got going and actually ended up running quite a bit faster than I intended.

So far I have used them only 4 or 5 times, however.

Unfortunately, a sharp increase in my mileage on following a lot of fast running in flats (too many races and workouts) has left my achilles quite tender and I decided it would not be wise to compound that by wearing the Newtons for a while. So I have put them on the shelf for a while until I settle in at higher mileage.

Either way though, I can't see these becoming a regular, everyday trainer for me. First of all, they're much too expensive. Second, they seem to exaggerate the forefoot landing thing more than I need. I do see them as being a once-or-twice-a-week shoe though. An aid to reinforcing good form.

I searched for this thread so I wouldn't have to start a new one.

Has anyone worn these recently?

Are any elites wearing these shoes? Anyone logged over 100mpw in them?

Any help is appreciated.

They suck, especially for the price.

Josh Cox is one of their top runners who is the current american 50k record holder who trains in Mammoth with Ryan Hall.

That's only because Nike, Asics, Reebok, Adidas, Brooks, Saucony, Mizuno, Puma, New Balance, Fila, Zoot, Etonic, K-Swiss, and Under Armour all took a pass on sponsoring Cox.

Carry on.

Why do these threads continue to pop up? These shoes, are gimmicky, expensive, and generally suck balls.

Next?

YAWN. wrote:

That's only because Nike, Asics, Reebok, Adidas, Brooks, Saucony, Mizuno, Puma, New Balance, Fila, Zoot, Etonic, K-Swiss, and Under Armour all took a pass on sponsoring Cox.

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, and so on.

stranded traveler wrote:

YAWN. wrote:

That's only because Nike, Asics, Reebok, Adidas, Brooks, Saucony, Mizuno, Puma, New Balance, Fila, Zoot, Etonic, K-Swiss, and Under Armour all took a pass on sponsoring Cox.

Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, and so on.

Nope, Cox was lucky just to get Mizuno gear for the OT in 2007. On the same token, Cox is probably the most high profile runner Newton could probably get right now.