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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Ok, you and Sally and whomever else who is arguing that no one wants electric cars are almost as out of your mind about that as you are your insane political stances.
This is a losing argument you are having, and since it's not just a philosophical one, it is simply time that will show how wrong you are.
Only time will tell if Tesla remains the king of the EVs, but people CLEARLY want EVs. Hell, I want an EV. Almost every major car maker now has at least one EV offering. Off the top of my head, I can't think of one that doesn't.
There are a few things right now keeping people from getting themselves an EV, and those things are quickly changing IN FAVOR of getting the EV:
1) Initial cost to own.
2) Battery issues - range, charge time, lack of charging stations.
3) Vehicle variety.
EVs WILL be the dominant vehicles, and soon. I have a new 2022 GAS vehicle, but the next newest of my other two cars is a 2011, and while it is a Honda CRV with only 110,000 miles on it and I could easily drive it another 10 years (and might), there is no way my next vehicle is not an EV. I'm in the same situation as a ton of people. Gas vehicles will go the way of the rotary phone.
While your (and Sally's) political arguments are stupid and dangerous to our Democratic Republic, this EV stance of yours is just plain silly.
You're in no position to figure out which arguments are stupid.
More people want gas cars than EV's.
It is idiotic to pretend this isn't the case.
EV's are probably the future. The future isn't now.
EV's won't even be the dominant vehicles on the road in California in the next 10 years let alone in the rest of America.
You're wrong about everything and blissfully unaware.... lol...
1) Oh, I am THE ONE in a position to declare which arguments are stupid. YOU think the 2020 election was stolen by the Democrats. That makes you an idiot, and your beliefs about everything else fall in line with those of an idiot.
2) You said "Americans don't want EVs." You are wrong. The reason why every major automaker has at least one EV offering is precisely because people want EVs. Not everything is yet lined up to have EVs TODAY be the dominant vehicle, but that's coming...and soon. The demand for EVs is there, and it's strong.
3) EVs aren't "probably the future"...they are the future.
4) Since you're so sure Democrats stole the last Presidential election, you'd be a fool to vote again. Why take time out of your day to go vote if we're just going to steal it from you without a trace again?
You should find something else to do with your time. Discussing pretty much anything with educated people isn't for you.
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Trollminator wrote:
Great cartoon. Could have had Mnuchin in the background getting another billion.
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Not for long. Your own source has Tesla growing at 370%. Almost every other brand is losing sales. Their days are numbered.
Americans have woken up to the value of EVs and this is also true worldwide. That's why Tesla is worth more than all other major automakers combined. Investors know that Tesla is taking over. The automakers know it too.
370% of a tiny market share... Once EV's are actually in demand the major auto makers will get in the game for real and Tesla won't have 80% of the market.
Americans have not "woken up" EV sales are a tiny fraction of auto sales.
People have been saying that for the last 10 years. "Oh, when the big boys start making EVs Tesla is toast."
Well, the big boys have all been trying for the last few years. They are borrowing billions to make new factories and retrofit old ones. They are finding out that EVs are a lot harder to make than they thought. And Tesla is miles ahead in EV technology.
The big boys will go bankrupt trying to catch Tesla. Listen to their CEOs. Watch how they spend their money. They are running scared trying to catch up.
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Fat hurts wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
370% of a tiny market share... Once EV's are actually in demand the major auto makers will get in the game for real and Tesla won't have 80% of the market.
Americans have not "woken up" EV sales are a tiny fraction of auto sales.
People have been saying that for the last 10 years. "Oh, when the big boys start making EVs Tesla is toast."
Well, the big boys have all been trying for the last few years. They are borrowing billions to make new factories and retrofit old ones. They are finding out that EVs are a lot harder to make than they thought. And Tesla is miles ahead in EV technology.
The big boys will go bankrupt trying to catch Tesla. Listen to their CEOs. Watch how they spend their money. They are running scared trying to catch up.
TAITR (hmm...looks like "Tater". Gonna call him "Tater" from now on) is wrong in general about EVs. Tesla will face some stiff competition though from other makers. I'm not sure any ONE of them will rise to the top, but when you put Tesla up against ALL of them (so ALL of those other choices and known brands which means something to a lot of people) it's going to be tougher than Tesla has it today. Also, hopefully Tesla moves away from this kind of design nonsense:
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Trollminator wrote:
If you were a little brighter you'd understand the difference.
We know Hunter got jobs solely based on his father. We know Hunter sold meetings with his father.
We have Hunter's texts and e-mails where he complains about having to give half his income to his father.
Biden has ALWAYS been filthy and he's been doing it for decades.
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
EV's won't even be the dominant vehicles on the road in California in the next 10 years let alone in the rest of America.
The state of Washington will no longer allow new gas car registrations in 2030. That's only 8 years away. You won't even be able to buy a gas car out of state and bring it in.
California has a similar law for 2035, but many expect them to change their law to match Washington. Other states will also follow suit.
A car that can't be registered in some states won't be worth as much. As we get closer to 2030, the rising popularity of EVs, combined with these laws will destroy the new and used markets for gas-powered vehicles nationwide. Depreciation will be brutal. The transition will happen very fast.
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Fat hurts wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
370% of a tiny market share... Once EV's are actually in demand the major auto makers will get in the game for real and Tesla won't have 80% of the market.
Americans have not "woken up" EV sales are a tiny fraction of auto sales.
People have been saying that for the last 10 years. "Oh, when the big boys start making EVs Tesla is toast."
Well, the big boys have all been trying for the last few years. They are borrowing billions to make new factories and retrofit old ones. They are finding out that EVs are a lot harder to make than they thought. And Tesla is miles ahead in EV technology.
The big boys will go bankrupt trying to catch Tesla. Listen to their CEOs. Watch how they spend their money. They are running scared trying to catch up.
The big boys are busy making cars people actually want...
The CEO's aren't scared they're adapting in ways that will strengthen their companies.
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
People have been saying that for the last 10 years. "Oh, when the big boys start making EVs Tesla is toast."
Well, the big boys have all been trying for the last few years. They are borrowing billions to make new factories and retrofit old ones. They are finding out that EVs are a lot harder to make than they thought. And Tesla is miles ahead in EV technology.
The big boys will go bankrupt trying to catch Tesla. Listen to their CEOs. Watch how they spend their money. They are running scared trying to catch up.
The big boys are busy making cars people actually want...
The CEO's aren't scared they're adapting in ways that will strengthen their companies.
Did you even read the article? It makes my point exactly. The big boys are stumbling. They don't even know how to make their own electric motors and none are assembling their own battery packs. So all of them are trying to outsource the entire power train. They don't know what they are doing.
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Fat hurts wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
EV's won't even be the dominant vehicles on the road in California in the next 10 years let alone in the rest of America.
The state of Washington will no longer allow new gas car registrations in 2030. That's only 8 years away. You won't even be able to buy a gas car out of state and bring it in.
California has a similar law for 2035, but many expect them to change their law to match Washington. Other states will also follow suit.
A car that can't be registered in some states won't be worth as much. As we get closer to 2030, the rising popularity of EVs, combined with these laws will destroy the new and used markets for gas-powered vehicles nationwide. Depreciation will be brutal. The transition will happen very fast.
LOL! People don't buy cars as assets... Depreciation is already brutal the moment you drive it off the sales lot.
You will still be able to register and drive your car in models 2029 and earlier forever under Washington's bill. They're still driving 1950s cars in Cuba. I'd wager the 2029 models will still be functioning in 2030 and gas powered cars will be the majority of cars on the road in Washington long after 2035.
You're confusing leftist wishes and reality...
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Fat hurts wrote:
TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
The big boys are busy making cars people actually want...
The CEO's aren't scared they're adapting in ways that will strengthen their companies.
Did you even read the article? It makes my point exactly. The big boys are stumbling. They don't even know how to make their own electric motors and none are assembling their own battery packs. So all of them are trying to outsource the entire power train. They don't know what they are doing.
Tesla only had $53 billion in revenue in 2021.
The "big boys are stumbling" with WAY more revenue.
EV's won't be mainstream for well over a decade by even the rosiest scenarios from EV prognosticators. The big boys have plenty of time to catch up.
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GOP Sen. Marsha Blackburn Gets Schooled On U.S. Geography After Border Wall Plea
Tennesseans want a wall on our southern border.
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Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
GOP Sen. Marsha Blackburn Gets Schooled On U.S. Geography After Border Wall Plea
Tennesseans want a wall on our southern border.
— Sen. Marsha Blackburn (@MarshaBlackburn)Imagine being dumb enough to think she was referring to the state border...
Jesus liberals are pathetic... lol...
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Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
GOP Sen. Marsha Blackburn Gets Schooled On U.S. Geography After Border Wall Plea
Tennesseans want a wall on our southern border.
— Sen. Marsha Blackburn (@MarshaBlackburn)Meanwhile, one of the brightest Democrats in congress literally thinks islands are floating on the ocean.
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TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:
Trollminator wrote:
If you were a little brighter you'd understand the difference.
We know Hunter got jobs solely based on his father. We know Hunter sold meetings with his father.
We have Hunter's texts and e-mails where he complains about having to give half his income to his father.
Biden has ALWAYS been filthy and he's been doing it for decades.
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