2023 College Track & Field Open Coaching Positions Discussion

While Haveman made $120k in 2022 I highly doubt the new distance coach is going to get that. You have a head coach who has no intention of investing in that event area. I can’t imagine you’re going to get a big-ish name to come try and score some conference points in a distance heavy conference with little to no scholarship money. That job isn’t paying $120k. He’s going to spend for coaches in event areas he cares about - not ones he doesn’t.

Lmaoooo the large amount of west Virginians with confederate flags would disagree with your take. But let’s get back to jobs

It’s probably one of the worst power 5 schools in the country especially for sprints (assuming that’s what the position is for). The distance program is solid but if you’re a sprint coach, Marshall would be a better starting point than WVU

You’re assuming it’s a sprints job because…? It doesn’t say what event group. The first two responsibilities read like a DO. I suspect (as many other schools will likely do) is morph straight DO jobs into assistant coaching jobs with the person doing these tasks while also handling some coaching duties, but more likely recruiting. It frees up your existing coaches to focus a bit more on just coaching. Now, that’s assuming this is an added position and not a replacement.

Just to be clear, the history and heritage of the state is true. But the take that a majority of west Virginians are welcoming to all people is just not true.

It was assumed on a previous post. Regardless, I would not consider WVU a strong power 5 program in any event other than distance (granted that’s all this board cares about so that’s probably not considered a negative).

I think you might be a little off on your assumptions. I heard that it does pay six figures. Whether is 100k, 110 or 120k it doesn’t matter. He will hire someone good that can be a lot more efficient with scholarships and recruiting as we all know in the Chicagoland area that illinois invested a lot on XC/distance but results don’t really show it. Look for a very talented mid major successful coach to take over and help Petros build a great team.

They should consider Illini great lee LaBadie.

They should consider Illini great lee labadie

What is going on with Georgia and South Carolina? Still nothing on these 2 big jobs?

I really don't care if you believe me because I experienced it and I heard the stories from the kids. The university told the students to NOT walk to the store alone because the previous year an international student was beat up by local HILLBILLYS. He was attacked by 5 white men that jumped out of a pick up truck and smashed the kids head in. As a result, the administration of the university made sure all the coaches warned their athletes of the dangers of the area. Yeah WV is not a safe place if you do not look like the people that live there.

UGA going with Caleb Morgan from Lee. Least that’s the rumor.

There will be an additional coach to support Ashley. Seven total staff members including AT

Interesting. What makes you think so?

I'm always curious when I read these seemingly omniscient posts about program's scarcity of scholarship money.....how do you come about this assumed understanding? Do you have direct, insider knowledge? And is this head coach with your presumed "no interest" in certain groups on the record as saying such? By publicly available record, this program has $608k allotted to male scholarships and $985k allotted to female scholarships. That is enough to build a strong and balanced program, especially at a public school.

Ok, so name one state in America that hasn’t experienced similar racial violence. Why are you broad-brushing the entire state? This thread is about the job in Morgantown WV— WVU has a huge population of international students that aren’t being attacked in the streets. Seems an awful lot like you just came here to gripe about a job that didn’t work out for you.

Hopefully they have a strong compliance staff! watched this guy recruit off of other teams at meets for years.
also this

ncaa.org

Lee cross country coach issued public reprimand - NCAA.org

The Division II Men's and Women's Cross Country Committee issued a public reprimand to Caleb Morgan, director of men's and women's cross country and track field

Link:www.ncaa.org/news/2022/12/19/media-cen...

run with dogs, catch fleas

Well, I'm in no way connected to the Illinois program, but I'd ask you: have you ever seen a Petros team put an emphasis on distance? No. Have you ever seen a program where the event group of the director doesn't place an emphasis on his event area? No. So it's not a far leap to get there. Put another way, someone in an earlier post brought up their amazing signing class. Tell me, how many distance athletes comprised it?

I don't need a public statement (and have you ever seen a director publicly say they don't care about an event area?) from him to know the direction his program is going. People are creatures of habit by nature and we gravitate and do what we know best. Come on man. Besides given the number of programs that focus on distance (Wisconsin) and mid-distance (PSU) in the conference if you aren't going to make a concerted effort to put money there - you aren't going to be competitive. You'll get lucky every now and then, but it's not going to drive your team score.

I will grant you: with 18 scholarships on the women's side it is possible to be a well balanced program, especially if your school has great assistance programs outside of athletic aid (think academic aid, reciprocity agreements, etc). Anything that helps you stretch your dollar means you can be better in more event areas.

I don't even understand why you're in such a tizzy over stating the direction of a program. It happens everywhere: Milt has pushed UNC to be much more distance-centric, St. Clair at Nebraska throws heavy. It's not a knock on the other event groups or the coach - it's what happens.

Also heard tom Brumlick’s name…