Julaino wrote:
Get out of here with that nonsense wrote:
Abetting and assisting when he was a college coach? All the infractions occurred before his time at NOP. Did you even read the report?
Julian worked for NOP in 2008.
Same time frame as the testosterone experiments.
No. Julian joined in 2012.
same group, same people wrote:
More like "NOP will be renamed and go on just like before"
yep, except they will stay away from new sports meds for a while
Rodger Kram wrote:
Allegheny Nike, wow, blast from the past.
No kidding, I ran for them and Neil Cohen for a while.
the NOP website was selling the Victory 3 for $75. hopefully they put this spike on clearance sale on nike.com for super cheap. 49.99 sounds like a fun price
lovelybones wrote:
Blocked as well. When Centroids has posted the yawning picture I simply said “you should take this seriously, this is not anything to yawn at.” I was blocked 20 min later
Centro is a turd, always has been, always will be. No class little turd, who happens or happened to run fast. (with the help of.....)
Xylon wrote:
Pete Julian abetting and assisting is entangled and out as NOP Assistant.
Is he done?
Abetting and assisting when he was a college coach? All the infractions occurred before his time at NOP. Did you even read the report?[/quote]
Julian worked for NOP in 2008.
Same time frame as the testosterone experiments.[/quote]
No. Julian joined in 2012.[/quote]
You both are correct. Julia was helping and working for the NOP in 2008, he got hired fulltime in 2012.
He is as dirty as Alberto and Darren Treasure
another perspective wrote:
comedyrelief wrote:
They should reorganize with Michele Ferrari as their new team doctor. Call it the No Holds Barred project and only compete in obscure meets where there is no testing. They could set up a remote training camp in tribal controlled regions of Afghanistan (good altitude training) that could only be accessed by a week long ride on horseback through a war zone. They might have to bribe a warlord or two to keep the runners safe, but they could pay for the whole thing by setting up a shoe factory there and take advantage of the cheap labor. Win, win, win.
Don't go and give Mark Parker new ideas... He'll have a bribe in place for use of Afghani land, local military/militia hired (for alleged safety), and an airstrip to fly in/out of built by the end of the year.
From a revenue perspective, Nike is a bigger economy than Afghanistan (their 39.829 Billion revenue stream is almost double the 20B that Afghanistan produces each year). They should buy the whole country (or maybe they could succeed where Trump failed and buy Greenland which only produces $2.71B a year in GDP). Quite honestly that 39+ Billion dollar figure demonstrates the level of influence that Nike would have over the legitimacy of testing for their athletes as shoe money controls the entire running industry.
comedyrelief wrote:
another perspective wrote:
Don't go and give Mark Parker new ideas... He'll have a bribe in place for use of Afghani land, local military/militia hired (for alleged safety), and an airstrip to fly in/out of built by the end of the year.
From a revenue perspective, Nike is a bigger economy than Afghanistan (their 39.829 Billion revenue stream is almost double the 20B that Afghanistan produces each year). They should buy the whole country (or maybe they could succeed where Trump failed and buy Greenland which only produces $2.71B a year in GDP). Quite honestly that 39+ Billion dollar figure demonstrates the level of influence that Nike would have over the legitimacy of testing for their athletes as shoe money controls the entire running industry.
That doesn't likely include the Taliban controlled economy, namely the opium and hashish they grow and sell to finance their whole existence.
That's a laugh wrote:
No organized doping? Well now Parker, you were in the middle of it all. The inner circle was Alberto, Lance, Galen and yourself.
No organized doping...just a loose foursome that accidentally agreed on the same things.
I couldn't agree more. Once a slim ball always a slim ball. Mo Farah should be added into that inner circle as well. I hope him and Galen both go down with their cheating coach.
Everyone knows the NOP needs to bring in a coach with impeccable credentials. That is undeniable.
However, isn't it just as important that they bring in someone with a fiery spirit (red hair) and a strong moral compass? Perhaps a man who might drive a 1994 Brown Toyota Camry? Maybe a man who once tried and failed to body slam Yokozuna on the USS Intrepid, in the process tearing every working muscle in his body?
That man's name?
Peter "Bones" Sherry.
Pumpkin Ass wrote:
Salazar is an American hero. He is innocent. The NOP should live on to build on Salazar’s legacy. I’m literally shaking right now because of how mad I am about this. Nike should be cancelled.
I'm laughing my a$$ off right now. This is such a great post-- it's hilarious!!!
Hi Parents of NOP wrote:
Thursday wrote:
Yeah. It is sad. Maybe people on this site should have realized this prior to trashing the program/athletes. I'm not saying it was you - just in general. Real people and real lives are being affected.
No, cheating shut it down. Calling out cheating is what supporters of the sport should be doing. Running doesn’t need nike. They are in to sell cheaply made shoes at a high price no matter the detriment to the sport. Real fans of the sport just want fair competition. The evil empire has fallen and now good has an opportunity to reign again.
The usada report admitted there was insufficient evidence of doping. That is not an evil empire.
What is evil is a woman holding a personal grudge for 8 years and ruining the reputations of 2 of the most successful american distance runners.
Like, what did Galen do to Kara to deserve this? If he runs well, people will doubt his performance. If he quits, people will laugh.
All because someone couldnt move on.
This idea is hard to explain but Ill try. Falsely accusing someone gives the accuser power. Even if the suspect is innocent, they have to defend themselves, and as they defend themselves, they look suspicious. It really must make the accuser giggle as they watch people squirm. That is wrong. That is evil.
We should harshly punish those who falsely accuse.
Classic. Attacking the whistleblowers instead of the cheaters.
Will they bury NOP in the family plot, next to Athletics West?
Iain wrote:
No. Julian joined in 2012.
Woah. WOAH.
Any idea of his whereabouts on July 5, 1993 though?
https://youtu.be/_v-vSfCAF0Yjury is in wrote:
Classic. Attacking the whistleblowers instead of the cheaters.
Aren't the whistleblowers all somehow related to both Salazar AND Dr Brown and refuse to share their exact involvement?
Do whistleblowers get immunity from being banned from doping for whistleblowing?
Intrepid wrote:
Iain wrote:
No. Julian joined in 2012.
Woah. WOAH.
Any idea of his whereabouts on July 5, 1993 though?
https://youtu.be/_v-vSfCAF0Y
This is INSANE.
Did you guys know Kenny Klotz was born on July 5, 1993 ... on the USS INTREPID?!!
Guess it's only right that he and Peter "??" Sherry will have to co-coach the NOP.
Nothing like a good-old online stoning!
Unfortunately, the victim is sometimes the accused.
Accusations are sometimes incorrect. They may be leveled by well-meaning but mistaken or misinformed persons, but other times quite intentionally exaggerated or invented out of malice or for personal gain.
There is a tendency to believe the accused "guilty until proven innocent".
Guilty or not, the outcome is often the same.
Even if an accused is fully or substantially exonerated, which can be a lengthy, costly, and tolling process, that stain never washes off.
For some, they see divorce, friends distance and disappear, opportunities lost, reputation ruined, employment ended, bank accounts drained -- lives in every sense upended, while the false accuser usually walks away consequence-free.
Bullet_Proof wrote:
Hi Parents of NOP wrote:
No, cheating shut it down. Calling out cheating is what supporters of the sport should be doing. Running doesn’t need nike. They are in to sell cheaply made shoes at a high price no matter the detriment to the sport. Real fans of the sport just want fair competition. The evil empire has fallen and now good has an opportunity to reign again.
The usada report admitted there was insufficient evidence of doping. That is not an evil empire.
What is evil is a woman holding a personal grudge for 8 years and ruining the reputations of 2 of the most successful american distance runners.
Like, what did Galen do to Kara to deserve this? If he runs well, people will doubt his performance. If he quits, people will laugh.
All because someone couldnt move on.
This idea is hard to explain but Ill try. Falsely accusing someone gives the accuser power. Even if the suspect is innocent, they have to defend themselves, and as they defend themselves, they look suspicious. It really must make the accuser giggle as they watch people squirm. That is wrong. That is evil.
We should harshly punish those who falsely accuse.
Your dear little Galen has been on AlSal's secret "supplements" since high school. Galen didn't do anything to Kara. Kara just pointed out her own experience with this mess, and rightly so. It's about time every one of these cheaters were tossed from the sport for good.
No it's good wrote:
Alabama BSS wrote:
If Nike pulls back any for any additional sponsorship of TandF this sport would crater. Busting cheaters is great, but this sport losing money and track clubs and also losing the marketing of Nike is terrible.
It can’t survive with small clubs like Hoka and NAZ.
The end of professional distance running will be great for the sport. It will herald in the new Amateur Era and we can enjoy more crazy guys like Kawauchi in running races. The corrupt coaches, agents, doctors, and managers will mostly disappear from the sport and the doping problem in Africa related to running will also mostly disappear. The main option for doping will be state organized doping and in today's day and age this will be easy to detect and take down.
As it stands, for me the pro side of the sport died at least a decade ago, maybe closer to two. Nike's corruption and facilitation of undue influence is nothing compared to that of the IOC and IAAF. I'd no sooner encourage a teenager to strive to be an Olympian than I would he work in a chop shop or work in prostitution. Hell, being a garbage man is more respectable (and useful) anymore.