well actually wrote:
yes, you are wrote:
Body was damaged from too much too hard at a young developing age.
Had he not run a lot of miles in high school he likely would have been an above average high schooler and a decent D1 runner who quit the sport right after college. You would have never heard of him.
That's BS, the cream rises to the top, he could have run 25 miles less per week and still run the same HS times.
yes, you are wrote:
well actually wrote:
Had he not run a lot of miles in high school he likely would have been an above average high schooler and a decent D1 runner who quit the sport right after college. You would have never heard of him.
That's BS, the cream rises to the top, he could have run 25 miles less per week and still run the same HS times.
I'm sure every person on this thread would love to have Ritz's career. I have done a ton of miles in my own career and it may be the cause of so many of my injuries as I have aged but I wouldn't do it any other way because of the things I could have accomplished. That being said I didn't do a bunch of miles in High School. I don't think one generalization can be made and how much miles one should do and when to do them is something very individual. Sweeping statements are ridiculous, either way.
This is gold. The ones disagreeing either didn't experience the decline in US distance running during the late 80s and 90s or they are still stuck in that mindset of being mediocre because it's too hard to convince kids to put in mileage. Either way, coaching against that mindset makes me look like a genius on race day.
CoachJoanHunter wrote:
Can't figure out what you are trying to say here. I think I made the point that we use a patient progression, and that we individualize a kid's volume. We also have very few injury issues, especially on our boys team. We do plenty of supplemental work in an effort to build more durable bodies, in fact, we spend more time on that stuff than we do on our running with most of our team. We emphasize the importance of recovery: sleep, nutrition, and very easy recovery runs. We do non-impact cross training on ElliptiGos for kids who can't run mileage or who have developed the beginning of an injury, or just as a nice break from running for a day or two. Don't have a convenient pool so deep water running is an option only if the kid can get to a pool on their own, but we have had a few who have made that happen.
Definitely don't agree that 'quality' trumps 'quantity'. Too much 'quality' leads to injury and burnout, whereas more easy mileage and fewer hard workouts leads to growth and development over time. Guess I did drink that kool-aid since I observed that it worked, at least here at our school. Most of our kids love running, many want to run at the next level, and are still running after they graduate, even the ones who don't go on to run in college. To me, that is success, growing life-long runners (hopefully, a bit early to know yet.)
I guess I should apologize for JUST being a high school coach who isn't a rocket scientist? You sound like you think high school coaches are somehow an inferior class of coaches. But I'd argue that a successful HS coach has probably developed their skills a bit more than the college coach who has never worked with developmental athletes. We have a much wider range of athletes we have to figure out how to develop. Hope that doesn't offend any college coaches. I know a few who might agree with me.
For those interested, here's an article I just posted at Stack that talks about high school mileage.
In hindsight, it's easy to recommend minutes or miles or whatever metric you're going to use to track training. The tricky part, of course, is the implementation. How can you find ways to build buy-in or create a "culture" within your team of putting in the work; work whose rewards don't necessarily show up right away?
https://www.stack.com/a/mileage-matters-how-far-do-you-need-to-run-to-get-good-at-running
stop it... stop with the beating already!!
Who this guy is who said Sydney is 18 that is the most false statement I have ever heard. I was talking with her dad at NBNO this year and he said the her birthday was in July of 2003 making her 16 he told me this cause he wanted me to talk to her because i am her age. But nice try bud get em next time!!!