Based on his strava, he echoed most of this. Either way, I'm proud of him and anyone who pushed themselves in this race whether they finished or not. Congrats to him on finishing.
Based on his strava, he echoed most of this. Either way, I'm proud of him and anyone who pushed themselves in this race whether they finished or not. Congrats to him on finishing.
Cb wrote:
I think this is a great result for Walmsley. Battled back from adversity. Very fast times this year. He did much better than expected on what is likely nota course best suited to his strengths. I'm sure people will still find fault but that is to be expected.
This sounds like Trump supporters mansplaining their way through bonehead move after bonehead move lol.
Walmsley's best 100 showing was still WS last year. He actually raced well, but he got lost right near the end. Yeah, woulda shoulda, but that was an easy win for him without getting lost. He'll probably win WS next year, but utmb is different. Not sure he'll take this one. 15 hours is a lot different than 20 and the competition is a lot different.
Sage, on the other hand, needs to give up 100s. It's really clear that he can't run them well. What's unclear is whether he can compete in high level shorter stuff atthis point. He hasn't continued to run up to the level of trail runner he was when he joined the sport. He can't do 100s, and marathon training seems to have worked better for him at 50k/50 mile. He probably needs to work harder on his speed again (and is it me, or does he look to have put on weight in that posted photo a few pages back) or he's done.
Further, congrats to Hayden Hawks. CCC win is awesome. Unlike a lot of American trail guys, he's thinking long term and seems like he won't kill himself to the point that he'll just stop performing at his highest level after just a couple years (Sage, Krar, Roes, Krupicka, Dakota Jones, etc).
Which man won?
Top 3?
I went to this running site and they spent 100 twitters on the Women
Ok
Which sport cares so much about women?
No Walmsley fan wrote:
Walmsley Fan wrote:I'm glad that Jim has come along. He makes these races more exciting and hopefully one day he'll pull it out, but still, 5th in this field is truly elite and I don't think anyone can argue that. God knows we've all probably messed up in races...
The issue is not that things can go wrong in long races. The issue is that Walmsley talked big but has never delivered beyond 50 miles.
At the end he is just a very good ultrarunner but not better than anybody else, which he claims he is. His whole BS talk of bringing speed into ultrarunning is a farce after his one hour and 10 minute defeat at the UMBT today.
Totally agree. Walmsley was saying early in the race how everyone was running slow and he can run with Killian all day. Turns out he can only run with Killian through 100k. If he wasn't such an ignorant twat I'd be a fan of what he's doing.
Network Engie wrote:
No Walmsley fan wrote:The issue is not that things can go wrong in long races. The issue is that Walmsley talked big but has never delivered beyond 50 miles.
At the end he is just a very good ultrarunner but not better than anybody else, which he claims he is. His whole BS talk of bringing speed into ultrarunning is a farce after his one hour and 10 minute defeat at the UMBT today.
Totally agree. Walmsley was saying early in the race how everyone was running slow and he can run with Killian all day. Turns out he can only run with Killian through 100k. If he wasn't such an ignorant twat I'd be a fan of what he's doing.
I was thinking about this quote on my run this morning and how it came to bite him. Big time. It's a great quote until it's proven that you can't run with him alll day. There goes that theory.
Maybe his new race approach should be to avoid burnout and STFU until (if) he gets the results.
after the build up and the hype this year (and I think the race lived up to it, I think the only thing that would have made it better would have been if Zach Miller hung onto that lead group a bit longer, but he had some injury coming in?), would like to see if Francois and Kilian take next year off, see if an American can can win it, and then come back to try to take the title back in 2019, because the hype for that would be amazing
For me it is that course record thing, going out faster than CR but not up to the task.
Even my wife understood that, as a non-runner
Wtf most Americans wrote:
but that was an easy win for him without getting lost.
Note: he still could have won the race. If he had run back to the course and finished, he likely would have won. That's how big the gap was. But he was more interested in the CR. And so once that was done, he was done.
Totally agree. Walmsley was saying early in the race how everyone was running slow and he can run with Killian all day. Turns out he can only run with Killian through 100k. If he wasn't such an ignorant twat I'd be a fan of what he's doing.
Exactly!
Wtf most Americans wrote:
Sage, on the other hand, needs to give up 100s. It's really clear that he can't run them well. What's unclear is whether he can compete in high level shorter stuff atthis point. He hasn't continued to run up to the level of trail runner he was when he joined the sport. He can't do 100s, and marathon training seems to have worked better for him at 50k/50 mile. He probably needs to work harder on his speed again (and is it me, or does he look to have put on weight in that posted photo a few pages back) or he's done.
If I was Sage's coach I think I would tell him to focus on the 50k/50 mile distance. His goal race should be the JFK 50 miler or something like that. He can still try to qualify for the Olympics standard, but his main activity should be the "shorter" ultras that many of the other ultra guys don't bother with. This is not a sleight, it's just pragmatics... Sage is really good at the shorter ultras and the mountaineous marathon type of races.
Note: he still could have won the race. If he had run back to the course and finished, he likely would have won. That's how big the gap was. But he was more interested in the CR. And so once that was done, he was done.
BS
https://www.runnersworld.com/trail-running/watch-western-states-leader-takes-a-swim-then-a-wrong-turnNo Walmsley fan wrote:
BS
He had an hour lead and ran 3 miles off course. Do the math. Can *you* run 6 miles in an hour?
No Walmsley fan wrote:
Totally agree. Walmsley was saying early in the race how everyone was running slow and he can run with Killian all day. Turns out he can only run with Killian through 100k. If he wasn't such an ignorant twat I'd be a fan of what he's doing.
Exactly!
I'm pretty sure the "I can run with Killian all day" quote was totally made up by someone on this forum. He did say that the pace was slow, but he didn't say anything about Killian.
Also, he never said he was going after the CR. Again, someone on this board made that up. (Of course, he said that about WS100, but not UTMB.)
bkrunner wrote:
I'm pretty sure the "I can run with Killian all day" quote was totally made up by someone on this forum. He did say that the pace was slow, but he didn't say anything about Killian.
Also, he never said he was going after the CR. Again, someone on this board made that up. (Of course, he said that about WS100, but not UTMB.)
sdfasdfasdfasfsadfdf wrote:
No Walmsley fan wrote:https://www.runnersworld.com/trail-running/watch-western-states-leader-takes-a-swim-then-a-wrong-turnBS
He had an hour lead and ran 3 miles off course. Do the math. Can *you* run 6 miles in an hour?
But he didn't run it. He just pouted and walked along.
He was just 20th with 18:45. These are the facts.
sdfasdfasdfasfsadfdf wrote:
Wtf most Americans wrote:Sage, on the other hand, needs to give up 100s. It's really clear that he can't run them well. What's unclear is whether he can compete in high level shorter stuff atthis point. He hasn't continued to run up to the level of trail runner he was when he joined the sport. He can't do 100s, and marathon training seems to have worked better for him at 50k/50 mile. He probably needs to work harder on his speed again (and is it me, or does he look to have put on weight in that posted photo a few pages back) or he's done.
If I was Sage's coach I think I would tell him to focus on the 50k/50 mile distance. His goal race should be the JFK 50 miler or something like that. He can still try to qualify for the Olympics standard, but his main activity should be the "shorter" ultras that many of the other ultra guys don't bother with. This is not a sleight, it's just pragmatics... Sage is really good at the shorter ultras and the mountaineous marathon type of races.
UTMB is the "Super Bowl" of (ultra) mountain running. Let Sage do what he wants, and give him credit for trying. It doesn't get any better than this for these guys.
DPL wrote:
UTMB is the "Super Bowl" of (ultra) mountain running. Let Sage do what he wants, and give him credit for trying. It doesn't get any better than this for these guys.
Oh he can do what he wants for sure. But WS is also a "super bowl" of sorts. And so is Hard Rock. I'm just saying if I was him I think I would run one of these super bowl 100s once a year but my focus, where I made my living, would be in the 50k/50m distance.
sdfasdfasdfasfsadfdf wrote:
DPL wrote:UTMB is the "Super Bowl" of (ultra) mountain running. Let Sage do what he wants, and give him credit for trying. It doesn't get any better than this for these guys.
Oh he can do what he wants for sure. But WS is also a "super bowl" of sorts. And so is Hard Rock. I'm just saying if I was him I think I would run one of these super bowl 100s once a year but my focus, where I made my living, would be in the 50k/50m distance.
Umm... what other 100 did Sage run this year?
kritter wrote:
Umm... what other 100 did Sage run this year?
Western States.