Lets finally get rid of all unions!

Top Cat wrote:

since you are so industrious why don't you get a part time job like many others do. You may like it more and it may give you opportunities that are unimagianable to you now. Therefore you might benefit by new opportunities. What city are you in?

I am an assistant manager at a grocery store and want to go as far as possible in the grocery business. I want to work more hours to get ahead in THIS line of work. I live in a small town and want to stay here. There's no good reason why I should have to uproot my life or change jobs to get more hours in.

I worked at Kroger's. Management isn't part of a union. Management is salary and is not paid OT. I also worked at Godfrey's Sentry. Same thing.

Top Cat wrote:

I worked at Kroger's. Management isn't part of a union. Management is salary and is not paid OT. I also worked at Godfrey's Sentry. Same thing.

You work in another state.

I'm waiting Mr Asst Mgr for you to come clean since you aren't eligible for overtime. If you are a manager and your employees wages go down, then eventually yours will also. Do you care about yourself?

I asked him where he worked and he wouldn't reply

I'm getting bored with this. See you tomorrow if you aren't working your holy butt off because the workers are depriving you of your rightful place. Yawn.

pharma = troll

Picture the year 2017. There are no unions in the USA. Would that be a good thing for the country?

Conundrum wrote:

pharma = troll

What makes you think so? You can't fathom that some people just like to work? Or do you just prefer to evade the argument by pronouncing anyone who disagrees with you to be a troll?

Top Cat wrote:

I'm waiting Mr Asst Mgr for you to come clean since you aren't eligible for overtime. If you are a manager and your employees wages go down, then eventually yours will also. Do you care about yourself?

I'm not a manager, but an assistant manager and am paid hourly. Furthermore, labor laws vary dramatically from state to state, so your assumptions are invalid.

It is all well and good that you want to work more for the same pay. That is great. But those laws you disparage are to stop companies from insisting that employers work unreasonable hours. If you want to work 20 hours a day that is fine but you shouldn't be required to do so.

pharma bashing wrote:

Top Cat wrote:

I'm waiting Mr Asst Mgr for you to come clean since you aren't eligible for overtime. If you are a manager and your employees wages go down, then eventually yours will also. Do you care about yourself?

I'm not a manager, but an assistant manager and am paid hourly. Furthermore, labor laws vary dramatically from state to state, so your assumptions are invalid.

States are now proposing to exempt overtime pay and compensation time for workers, fire, teachers, police, etc. making more than $20/hour in addition to ending collective bargaining.

Aghast wrote:

It is all well and good that you want to work more for the same pay. That is great. But those laws you disparage are to stop companies from insisting that employers work unreasonable hours. If you want to work 20 hours a day that is fine but you shouldn't be required to do so.

Nobody is requiring you to do anything. If you find the hours offered by your employer unacceptable, you can turn the offer down and look for another job. In a free market, companies are restrained by competition - they have to compete for labor just like they have to compete for customers. As a result, jobs that have many different work schedules come into existence. We do NOT have unions to think for the 40 hour workweek. We have them to curse for turning it into an arbitrary benchmark for what constitutes "overtime."

Someone please explain the definition of middle class. 1) salary range, 2) benefit package, 3) vacation, 4) etc. Should it be comparable to the average houshold income in your state? Higher? Lower? Who considers themselves middle class? And if you bought a house you could nt affore on an interest only loan and then the arm or leg kicked in - are you still middleclass? Who decides how much you are worth?

Possibly, but if things worsen, unions will re-appear.

pharma bashing wrote:

Top Cat wrote:

what did they do? give you an 8 hour work day and weekends off?

The unions made it impossible for me to negotiate my own work hours and compensation with my employer. I want to work 60 hours a week, but because the unions in my state established a law mandating that employers must pay 150% of an employee's regular wage for any time in excess of 40 hours a week, my employer can't afford to let me work "overtime." So, thanks to the unions, I make 50% less money than I would be able to if they hadn't established that rotten law. It's absolutely ridiculous that I'm forbidden by law to work additional hours for my regular wage when I'm PERFECTLY HAPPY to do so. Thanks for nothing, unions.

You mean 33%

My dad was a steel mill worker for 33 years. He was obviously in a union. He liked the steamfitters union. However, he often said " the unions were a neccessity when I was young. They were tough, and you had to pay your dues in more ways than one. Now? The younger ones do not appreciate the amount of work it took to get the union benefits they have today. They are disrespectful."

Unions are a necessity to keep the workers from getting screwed by corporate. The problem is that they are taken advantage of. catch 22. If you don't have them people get screwed over if you do have them they are taken advantage of and can really F*uck up things like the auto industry. Of cours a lot of teachers and auto workers do have to much income to be considered middle class. considering teachers get the whole summer off and my friends dad who is an auto worker makes 6 figures.

I think all the running store workers in America should form a Union!!