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Anyone know 2600s actual science background? Just genuinely curious. He obviously has a career in science.
Autodidact basement dweller BS dropout etc.
Funny. We know you work in science though, because not to give you a big head, but you’re extremely data driven which is the hallmark of a good scientist.
You’re right. Pharmacists are dumb. Which is why I’m … wait for it … exiting the profession and looking into biomedical grad school (like Masters PhD). Nice try though. Typical Sub 9 guy L.
Well, I wish you luck then. Seriously.
You can start by watching the Cuomo interview of Redfield and typing up a transcript for 2600 bro. It’s really short. Last 7:30.
what will cancer therapy look like in 10-15 years? I say a complete move away from these small molecule cytotoxic drugs and a transition to more biological treatments, like immunotherapy and mRNA therapeutics. For example…
"the guy I quoted as evidence was stupid, not me!"
If he actually called it a "killed protein vax" his credibility goes to zero, immediately, sorry.
I don't even get the point here. You aren't saying anything.
So you haven’t watched the video or you refuse to watch the video? Remember, these guy was much higher on the hierarchy than you ever were or will be.
I think this video has triggered Harambro more than anything else. Even more than when they pulled AZ for being unsafe. He really went off the rails after that announcement, but nothing like how worked up he is over this video. 👍
This is a very good interview on the origins of covid. Early on, Fauci, Collins, Farrar, Daszak et al conspired to squash any scientists who even considered the lab leak as a possible origin. People have short memories, but back in 2020, people who supported the lab leak theory were called racist. They were called conspiracy theorists and good scientists, like the doctor in this interview, were slandered professionally.
As we are now learning from Congressional testimonies by Tabek and Morens as well as doctors like Dr Bhattacharya coming forward to tell their story in the video below, the real conspiracy was to suppress any discussion of the lab leak as a possible origin.
Dr. Jay Bhattacharya reacts to EcoHealth Alliance's disbarment and former NIH Director Francis Collins' changing his position on the Covid lab-leak theory. #...
Select "Transcript" on the YouTube page and an imperfect auto-generated transcript appears on the right.
Can you explain where to find the "transcript" command? I can't find it and I can't find it on any sub-menus.
Click on "more" in the grey box under subscribe to expand the box.
Click on "show transcript".
The transcript quality isn't very good, you'll probably have to listen to the audio to make much sense of it anyway.
As I've said up thread if, as some people are interpreting this, Redfield has serious issues with the vaccines, this is a lousy way to communicate them to anyone who can effectively address those concerns.
Can you explain where to find the "transcript" command? I can't find it and I can't find it on any sub-menus.
Click on "more" in the grey box under subscribe to expand the box.
Click on "show transcript".
The transcript quality isn't very good, you'll probably have to listen to the audio to make much sense of it anyway.
As I've said up thread if, as some people are interpreting this, Redfield has serious issues with the vaccines, this is a lousy way to communicate them to anyone who can effectively address those concerns.
Thanks I’ll look into it
Could be a Rosetta Stone of sorts. Although I’m not expecting any big revelations from the interview.
I'd like to see ANY scientific evidence that the vaccines are "killing people" or are resulting in significant harm/poor health outcomes. Not anecdotes, "observations" not supported by actual data, conspiracy theories, unfounded claims of coverups, more links by unreliable sources, etc., but actual science and data. Because if there are these mass deaths and harm caused by the vaccine, where are they?
Bumping this, because no one has actually provided the requested evidence (spoiler: because it doesn't exist)
I'd like to see ANY scientific evidence that the vaccines are "killing people" or are resulting in significant harm/poor health outcomes. Not anecdotes, "observations" not supported by actual data, conspiracy theories, unfounded claims of coverups, more links by unreliable sources, etc., but actual science and data. Because if there are these mass deaths and harm caused by the vaccine, where are they?
Bumping this, because no one has actually provided the requested evidence (spoiler: because it doesn't exist)
You're correct - it's entirely anecdotal - except for the established, well studied, safety signals: MC from the mRNA in young people, autoimmune pathologies (like all vaccines), etc.
None of these side effects occur frequently enough in any population to make the vaccine a net-risk - in fact they all are much more likely to occur from COVID infection.
I'd like to see ANY scientific evidence that the vaccines are "killing people" or are resulting in significant harm/poor health outcomes. Not anecdotes, "observations" not supported by actual data, conspiracy theories, unfounded claims of coverups, more links by unreliable sources, etc., but actual science and data. Because if there are these mass deaths and harm caused by the vaccine, where are they?
Bumping this, because no one has actually provided the requested evidence (spoiler: because it doesn't exist)
I'd like to see any evidence that ALL adverse outcomes caused by injections of a new chemical and biological formulation would be conclusively known after that formulation has been available for only 1256 days.
Bumping this, because no one has actually provided the requested evidence (spoiler: because it doesn't exist)
I'd like to see any evidence that ALL adverse outcomes caused by injections of a new chemical and biological formulation would be conclusively known after that formulation has been available for only 1256 days.
It’s pretty simple - we have a long history of running trials and studying outcomes. We are aware of how safety signals present themselves. We monitor continuously. Remember mRNA vectors have been in trials for well over a decade. Vaccines have been studied for a century.
The argument “there could be something we don’t know” is not valid for slowing down progress and public health. We look, we monitor, we progress.
I'd like to see any evidence that ALL adverse outcomes caused by injections of a new chemical and biological formulation would be conclusively known after that formulation has been available for only 1256 days.
It’s pretty simple - we have a long history of running trials and studying outcomes. We are aware of how safety signals present themselves. We monitor continuously. Remember mRNA vectors have been in trials for well over a decade. Vaccines have been studied for a century.
The argument “there could be something we don’t know” is not valid for slowing down progress and public health. We look, we monitor, we progress.
The US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) announced late last week that it requested the removal of two pain medications from the market due to the potential for negative impact on heart rhythms. CNN reported Friday that the...
It’s pretty simple - we have a long history of running trials and studying outcomes. We are aware of how safety signals present themselves. We monitor continuously. Remember mRNA vectors have been in trials for well over a decade. Vaccines have been studied for a century.
The argument “there could be something we don’t know” is not valid for slowing down progress and public health. We look, we monitor, we progress.
Yeah the FDA has continuously reassessed the cost vs. benefit of these early gen opioids especially in comparison to better and better drugs that were being developed!
At some point there are better medicines on the market and we shift away from older options - this is the FDAs job.
"Propoxyphene (Darvon) has been on the market for more than 50 years. First approved by the FDA in 1957, the opioid drug used to treat mild to moderate pain has been the subject of controversy in the past. CNN reports that since 1978, the FDA has received two requests to remove the pain medication from the market. However, in both cases the FDA determined the benefits outweighed the risks."
It was eventually pulled because of its risk for abuse and overdose compared with modern opiates (still really addictive!)
This is a success story Dan... careful monitoring and analysis...
Bumping this, because no one has actually provided the requested evidence (spoiler: because it doesn't exist)
I'd like to see any evidence that ALL adverse outcomes caused by injections of a new chemical and biological formulation would be conclusively known after that formulation has been available for only 1256 days.
Two Covid vaccines have already been pulled. It’s only a matter of time before more are gone. Given the info that has come out in the past few weeks from multiple fronts, it’s quite apparent “safe” is off the table.
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