Bringing up the elite Americans does not make for positive predictions for Tuohy. Monson, Schweizer, Coburn, anf Frerichs were running low mileage in high school and were not elite. They made huge improvements. If you want to look at runers who were elite at a young age and see how they have fared, look at Cain, Ping, Lane, and Effraimson.
I'm usually the one raising the issue of how few teen and hs stars make it in college and pro, but plenty do quite well.
Mary Decker, Kim Gallagher, Suzy Favor, Elise Cranny, Rae yn Rogers, Athing Mu, Addy Wiley, Molly Huddle, Chanelle Price, Sarah Bei Hall, Ajee Wilson and Molly Seidel were all youth stars before making national teams. Even Mary Cain made a world team and world final. Not always easily, but they got there.
Yes, the argument that being age-group phenom/elite means that someone is LESS likely to get to adult elite, is flawed. The odds of an individual youth phemon/star making it to adult elite, is MUCH higher than the odds of any individual slower youth runner making it to adult elite.
Tuohy knew she was going pro. The only reason to run BU would have been to knock out one more collegiate record. If she and Henes did want ti do that, or ready for it, there was no reason to run at all.
But if she had run BU, would she have had to do it “unattached”, since she is not a part of the Indoor team? And if that is the case (that she would have been “unattached”), she probably would not have been eligible for a collegiate record.
Tuohy knew she was going pro. The only reason to run BU would have been to knock out one more collegiate record. If she and Henes did want ti do that, or ready for it, there was no reason to run at all.
But if she had run BU, would she have had to do it “unattached”, since she is not a part of the Indoor team? And if that is the case (that she would have been “unattached”), she probably would not have been eligible for a collegiate record.
She could have run for state. She had not announced pro move yet, and had 2 years of indoor eligibility left.
But if she had run BU, would she have had to do it “unattached”, since she is not a part of the Indoor team? And if that is the case (that she would have been “unattached”), she probably would not have been eligible for a collegiate record.
She could have run for state. She had not announced pro move yet, and had 2 years of indoor eligibility left.
Hold on. If she was going to graduate in December (the 10th?)…(that’s a process that takes some paperwork), then why would she be allowed on the Indoor team?
My original reply was to Blank, who suggested she could have run this one Indoor race for State, before graduating. (Totally different than what you are suggesting, sticking around through, at least, Indoors.)
according to this reporter who covered her since grade 7 there were several offers.
"Tuohy was courted by several shoe companies, but in agreeing to a contract with Adidas, she remains with the firm with which she signed a name, image, likeness contract more than a year ago."
I'm usually the one raising the issue of how few teen and hs stars make it in college and pro, but plenty do quite well.
Mary Decker, Kim Gallagher, Suzy Favor, Elise Cranny, Rae yn Rogers, Athing Mu, Addy Wiley, Molly Huddle, Chanelle Price, Sarah Bei Hall, Ajee Wilson and Molly Seidel were all youth stars before making national teams. Even Mary Cain made a world team and world final. Not always easily, but they got there.
Yes, the argument that being age-group phenom/elite means that someone is LESS likely to get to adult elite, is flawed. The odds of an individual youth phemon/star making it to adult elite, is MUCH higher than the odds of any individual slower youth runner making it to adult elite.
I mean Sara Hall has been running 70+ mile weeks since she was about 15 and she’s still in it at 40. So even the argument about burn out from excessive mileage/training I think is overblown. I think the biggest risk is not the mileage itself, it’s the potential to contribute to a RED-S hole.
It's actually a fallacy of causation. People who run lower mileage in high school outnumber high mileage people buy about a million to one. That's why they appear more likely to succeed in retrospect.
She could have run for state. She had not announced pro move yet, and had 2 years of indoor eligibility left.
Hold on. If she was going to graduate in December (the 10th?)…(that’s a process that takes some paperwork), then why would she be allowed on the Indoor team?
My original reply was to Blank, who suggested she could have run this one Indoor race for State, before graduating. (Totally different than what you are suggesting, sticking around through, at least, Indoors.)
I am assuming she could have yes as she was not yet graduated. She is also listed on the 23/24 track roster. So, until going pro was official running BU was probably an option.
Plus, I don't know all the rules but Whittni Orton graduated and then just did post bacc classes to fulfill eligibility.
No. People who do not allow life their bodies to develop naturally through puberty do not have rhe same upside as thise who do. Tuohy would be a better runner today if she had trained less when younger.
No. People who do not allow life their bodies to develop naturally through puberty do not have rhe same upside as thise who do. Tuohy would be a better runner today if she had trained less when younger.
This one's hilarious.
KT is actually example of someone who negotiated the minefield of puberty without incident.
She was an eating machine; that plus commitment to fitness kept her body strong, so she never had the problems encountered by the waif-like skinny runners.
It isn't natural for girls to run 50 MPW when going through puberty. Talk to Schweizer. Talk to Coburn. Talk to Frerichs. Most elite Americans eased into training after puberty.
It isn't natural for girls to run 50 MPW when going through puberty. Talk to Schweizer. Talk to Coburn. Talk to Frerichs. Most elite Americans eased into training after puberty.
Mileage really isn't the issue, it's body fat %. If a girls body fat % is too low they will stop menstruating and can delay onset of puberty. It doesn't only happen in running, but across lots of sports like gymnastics and dance. If you balance running with weight lifting and eat like a champ, you can go through puberty normally, despite training load.
An eating disorder is the worst for this situation. Exactly when the delayed puberty hits and needs extra nutrition for growth plus training, matches up with the least possible nutrition available. Body reacts by consuming itself, destroying muscle and bone density.
Plenty of running elites face this issue, but Tuohy was not one of these.
It isn't natural for girls to run 50 MPW when going through puberty. Talk to Schweizer. Talk to Coburn. Talk to Frerichs. Most elite Americans eased into training after puberty.