Ross Tucker has produced the tweet of the year. An epic TAKE DOWN of transactivists trying to gain access to women's sports.

To prove that trans-identified males who have not gone through the testostereone-driven aspects of male development during adolescecne because they started "puberty blockers" before they were 12 really do not have any unfair advantage over females in sport, HobbyJogger and others would have to show evidence that

1) Trans-identified males put on "puberty blockers" (and exogenous estrogen too) as pre-teens do not have, nor do they ever develop, a single one of the male-typical physical features that give males as a sex class an unfair advantage over females in sports.

Such as a male-shaped pelvis and the much smaller male Q angle that make males so much better at running and kicking; male muscles which have a greater number of more-densely packed and faster fibers than females have; tendons that can exert and withstnand more force than female tendons; lungs and hearts that are larger, more powerful and function differently to female lungs and hearts; a thicker layer of dura protecting the brain from sports injuries like concusssion ; stronger male-typical microrchitecture of the blood vessels and other strutures of the neck and cervical spine and so on.

2) Trans-identified males put on "puberty blockers" (and exogenous estrogen too) as pre-teens develop all, most or at least some of the pesky aspects of human female biology that girls and women have to contend with that so often are big drawbacks to u in sports.

After all, the reason males outperform females in sports, and by extremely large margins in adolescence and adulthood, isn't just that male humans develop a host of telltale male features in their own bodies. It's also that males - including trans-identified ones - don't have or develop any apsects of human female biology that disadvantage girls and women relative to boys and men.

Such as the different and more likely to be overactive immune function females have due to our extra X chromosome; the distinctive hearts, lungs, airway cells, airway secretions, breathing mechanics that females have due to our genetics that make us have to work harder in aerobic sports; the enormous hormonal fluctuations of the 28-day ovulation-menstruation cycle and their myriad effects; menstruation; menstrual cramps and other kinds of chronic or recurrent pelvic pain stemming from female reproductive organs and processes; menstrual-related anemia; PMS; PMDD; pre-menstrual breast soreness that can make walking painful and running unbearable; pregnancy scares and worries; female methods of contraception that affect health and wellbeing; unwanted and wanted pregnancies; miscarriage; termination; childbirth and chilbirth injuries; pregnancy weight gain; menopause; common "female troubles" like frequent cystitis/UTIs, ovarian cysts, endometriosis, PCOS, fibroids and so on...

3) Trans-identified males did not undergo any aspect of male development in utero and male mini puberty of infancy that would give them an advantage in many sports and sports-related activties starting from the age of T ball and other pee-wee sports.

Evidence for what? That there is no difference between two groups of people? That's impossible to prove by definition. No academic journal will ever accept a manuscript that claims there is no statistically significant difference between two groups of people. So you are asking for something that could never exist.

I have already explained this on another thread: null hypothesis can never be proven. If it was not rejected, it does not mean it is true. It is like a criminal defendant can never prove his innocence. If he is acquitted, that means the prosecution failed to prove his guilt beyond reasonable doubt. It does not mean that the defense proved his innocence. That's why the burden of proof is on the prosecution side.

I don't know if you are acting in malice or you are simply ignorant, but you are the one who needs to provide evidence for your claim.

Aside from all the logical fallacies you are spewing in this post, let me point out you have just expressed your enormous prejudice against people with Turner syndrome who do not have an extra X chromosome.

You have also failed to note that people with Kleinfelter syndrome also have an extra X chromosome. So 46XX is not the only karyotype with an extra X chromosome. But that's a minor point relative to all other non-sequitur.

Can you provide any evidence that trans girls who start medical transition before puberty do NOT have any disadvantage because of their medication? After all, one of the reasons that so many people are against trans minors taking puberty blockers (curiously enough they never object to cis minors taking puberty blockers) is the negative side effects such as lower bone density.

Can you provide any evidence that lower bone density in trans youths on puberty blockers does not lead to any disadvantage in athletic performance?

Of course, you cannot, because no one can prove the negative.

Why would “cis minors” take puberty blockers? This is like saying, “people want to ban guns that shoot bullets but not guns that shoot a sense of existential dread, what’s up with that?!”

“Puberty blockers have been used for decades in cisgender kids who either are going through puberty too early, or, in some instances, kids who are going through puberty very quickly,” Jason Klein, a pediatric endocrinologist and Assistant Director of the Transgender Youth Health Program at Hassenfeld Children’s Hospital at NYU Langone, told VICE. “Their use has been FDA approved, well-studied, well-documented, and well-tolerated for a long time now. And it’s the exact same medication that we use in trans or nonbinary children to basically put a pause on pubertal development. Exactly the same medications, at exactly the same doses.”

vice.com

Hm, No One Had a Problem With Puberty Blockers When Only Cis Kids Took Them

Lawmakers hell-bent on taking puberty blockers away from trans kids are ignoring all the research that says they're safe for everyone.

Link:www.vice.com/en/article/epnzjk/no-one-...

When someone is in the closet or going stealth, you cannot tell they are trans. The young lady who serves your meal at your favorite local restaurant could be secretly trans. But it won't matter to you unless you try to have sex with her.

reuters.com

New study estimates 1.6 million in U.S. identify as transgender

Jonathan Allen

A study published on Friday estimates that nearly 1.64 million people over the age of 13 in the United States identify themselves as transgender, based on an analysis of newly expanded federal health surveys.

Link:www.reuters.com/world/us/new-study-est...

Good grief, mate, stop bringing people with extremely rare DSDs into the conversation.

You're the who constantly shows prejudice against, and gross insensitivity towards, people with rare genetic or chromosomal conditions affecting their sex development by bringing them up time and again in threads about males in women's sports to bolster your sexist, male supremacist position that certain males you think are special should be granted the privilege of participating and competing in female sports because they say they "feel like" girls/women and they've taken certain drugs.

People with DSDs constantly say that they don't want to be brought into the debates about trans issues. Many say the feel exploited, misused, taken advantage and angered by gender identity ideologues like you who relentlessly trot out rare DSD conditions to back up the cockamamie claims you make about human sex and the hateful, insulting views you have towards the female half of the human race.

The vast majority of people who identify as transgender have bog-standard male or female genetics. They do not have DSDs.

Moreover, most people with DSDs are not misogynists who support the idea of males using gender identity claims to invade girls' and women's sports and spaces. So stop trying to make it seem like people with DSDs are all on your side.

You believe that trans-identifed males should be in female sports because you think the gender identities they claim to have in their heads should take precedence over the sex of their bodies, and because you have decided that males who take drugs to block or suppress their testostereone have no physical features that give them any unfair advantage over females.

But you never ever give a single shred of convincing evidence as to why someone's subjective internal self-concept should trump their biological sex when it comes to sports classification. Nor do you ever provide any evidence showing that the trans-identified males you champion have no physical features that give them unfair advantages over female people in sports.

Also, before you accuse women who are total strangers to you of being prejudiced against girls and women with Turner syndrome, please take a moment to wobble your head and consider for a moment how very common the experience of miscarriage is for us humans who are female - and the high percentage of human pregancies that end in miscarriage because of Turner syndrome.

According to the Turner Syndrome Foundation, "15% of confirmed pregnancies that end in miscarriage are babies with Turner Syndrome."

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turnersyndromefoundation.org

Coping with loss due to Turner Syndrome - Turner Syndrome Foundation

Find support and information for coping with the loss of a child with Turner Syndrome during this difficult time from the Turner Syndrome Foundation.

Link:turnersyndromefoundation.org/what_is_t...

Having gone through the grief of miscarrying a very-much-wanted child with Turner syndrome - and the trauma of having to catch and collect the fetal remains in my hands as my deceased offspring came out of me so I could bring the tissue to my doctor for genetic testing - I really really resent the cavalier, insensitive, thoroughly inhumane way you keep bringing up Turner and other rare DSDs to promote the male supremacy you preach.

Then please stop demeaning people with rare DSD by suggesting every woman has 46XX karyotype.

And if it is male supremacy to side with Julia Gillard and Pramila Jayapal against Loren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene, then I would accept that label.

theguardian.com

Why Julia Gillard's misogyny speech still resonates a decade later – video

Bertin Huynh

Political reporter Amy Remeikis takes a look back at Gillard's legacy defining speech 10 years ago

Link:www.theguardian.com/australia-news/vid...

So do those medications have negative effect on the athletic performance of minors who are taking them? Can you provide any evidence?

Males with Klinefelter syndrome are 47, XXY. This means that they have the standard male karytoype - XY - with an extra X chromosome added.

When a male has an extra X chromsome, it doesn't blot out, take precedence over, inactivate or nullify that his Y chromosome and his male-determining SRY gene.

Having an extra X doesn't make 47,XXY males partly female or not fully male. It makes them males with a chromosomal anomaly.

Similarly, males who are 47,XYY are not somehow more male, boyish or manly than others of their sex, and females who are 47,XXX are not more female, girly or womanly than others of their sex. People of both sexes with trisomy usually have an assortment of serious impairments including physical problems and learning difficulties, delays or disabilities.

BTW, most males who are 47,XXY usually grow up unaware of it. They most commonly find out they are 47,XXY only after they and their female parters run experience infertility and both partners get karytyped as part of the diagnostic testing to find out why/.

As for the immune effects of human males having an extra X chromosome in addition to their usual XY, the presence of an extra X doesn't give 47,XXY males female immune function.

Males with Klinefelter sydnrome do have a slightly elevated risk of developing certain autoimmune diseases compared to males who are 46,XY, but it doesn't give them the extremely heightened risk of developing auto-immune conditions that human females have.

"There are over 100 types of autoimmune diseases that predominantly affect women. Approximately 80% of all patients diagnosed with autoimmune diseases are women [1]. Sjogren’s syndrome, an autoimmune disease characterized by chronic dry eyes and mouth due to the degeneration of lachrymal and salivary glands, affects women in a 9:1 ratio [2]. SLE, an autoimmune disease in which the body attacks healthy tissues affecting the skin, joints, kidneys, and the brain, are seen to affect women in a 7:1 ratio [3]. Rheumatoid arthritis, a chronic inflammatory joint autoimmune disease that can immobilize fingers, wrists, feet, and ankle joints, affects women in a 3:1 ratio [4]. Systemic sclerosis, an autoimmune disease affecting the skin and internal organs of patients due to a collagen defect, affects women in a 3:1 ratio [5].

As the review reflects, women tend to develop autoimmune diseases more often than men throughout the course of their lifetime. The exact etiology of autoimmune disorders is said to be unknown; however, it has been postulated that it may be multifactorial. Researches have also postulated the association of autoimmune conditions with the X chromosome and X inactivation. A female individual normally has two X chromosomes, and for this reason, possesses a higher risk of autoimmune diseases, as compared to men."

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The Prevalence of Autoimmune Disorders in Women: A Narrative Review

Autoimmune disorders are characterized as a condition in which the host's immune system mistakenly attacks itself. These disorders cause the immune system to cause a systemic reaction by attacking multiple organs or may be lo...

Link:www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7...

But again, the fact that a very small percentage of human individuals have rare chromosomal and genetic conditions affecting their personal sex development and reproductive function doesn't have anything to do with trans.

Nor does it lend credence to your view that there's no legitimate, justifable reason for female people to have our own separate, sex-specific sports category that excludes all males simply because they are male.

You already said that having an unfair advantage is what this whole transgender controversy is about. So I schooled you and Translucent by providing an example of a super genetic freak who was undefeated for a couple decades. Would you ban this individual or not?

Did they have the genetic advantage because they were the opposite sex?

No of course not. How dim are you?