I don't care too much about pollution or whatever, but happened to buy a used Bolt for 20K because it looked like a good deal. It is just so much better than an ICE car that I am never going back to an ICE vehicle. Routinely get over 300 miles in the summer, 250 in the winter. In two years, it has happened to me once that I needed to go much farther, and I just rented a car. No biggie. If you like your ICEs, good for you. At the moment, the production of TVs cannot keep up with demand: it is almost impossible to find one. This is the real factor limiting EV adoption. By the way, also for this reason, EVs have terrific resale value: used Tesla sell for more than new. My Bolt right now is valued 5K more than what I paid a year ago.
I had the same experience. I bought a Bolt in 2017 and I've been hooked on EVs ever since. Now I have two Teslas to go with it.
I don't really need three cars so I'm trying to decide whether to sell the new Tesla for a big profit, or sell the Bolt for a lot more than I ever imagined. I'll probably wait until the first of the year when the $4,000 used EV incentive kicks in.
The Chevy Bolt recall for serious fire issues covered the years 2017-2022. You really think anyone is going to want to buy your bolt? Just a fire waiting to happen. Didn't they warn you to not park it in the garage? Sounds like a winner!
Most estimates of total cost of ownership (purchase price + fuel + maintenance)/years of use put electric significantly less costly than gas.
So most people make poor decisions when buying cars then. Find me a solid used car and the estimates you speak of are not accurate. Yawn.
Harambe probably should take resale value into account, but it only strengthens his case. For the foreseeable future, demand for EVs will far outstrip supply. So resale values for EVs are sky high.
I had the same experience. I bought a Bolt in 2017 and I've been hooked on EVs ever since. Now I have two Teslas to go with it.
I don't really need three cars so I'm trying to decide whether to sell the new Tesla for a big profit, or sell the Bolt for a lot more than I ever imagined. I'll probably wait until the first of the year when the $4,000 used EV incentive kicks in.
The Chevy Bolt recall for serious fire issues covered the years 2017-2022. You really think anyone is going to want to buy your bolt? Just a fire waiting to happen. Didn't they warn you to not park it in the garage? Sounds like a winner!
Selling the Bolt will be very easy. Prices for used Bolts are sky high.
The battery recall is in the past and nobody has reported issues since the new batteries were installed. My Bolt was fitted with a brand new battery. So in some ways, the car is practically new.
The Chevy Bolt recall for serious fire issues covered the years 2017-2022. You really think anyone is going to want to buy your bolt? Just a fire waiting to happen. Didn't they warn you to not park Thit in the garage? Sounds like a winner!
Selling the Bolt will be very easy. Prices for used Bolts are sky high.
The battery recall is in the past and nobody has reported issues since the new batteries were installed. My Bolt was fitted with a brand new battery. So in some ways, the car is practically new.
You say that Tesla has no quality problems. Tesla is the second worst car manufacturer out of all car makers. The only car maker less reliable than Tesla was Buick. I would say Tesla has come quality problems.
These scores are out of a 100. A 100! The Tesla Model 3 EV scored the best of the brand, with 59 points, but the Model S, Y and X scored 20, 18 and 5, in that order. It retains its position on the list as the second-least reliable brand.
The Chevy Bolt recall for serious fire issues covered the years 2017-2022. You really think anyone is going to want to buy your bolt? Just a fire waiting to happen. Didn't they warn you to not park it in the garage? Sounds like a winner!
Selling the Bolt will be very easy. Prices for used Bolts are sky high.
The battery recall is in the past and nobody has reported issues since the new batteries were installed. My Bolt was fitted with a brand new battery. So in some ways, the car is practically new.
Your Bolt is practically new? One of my cars has 101,000 miles on it. If I put a new battery in it, can I sell it as "new?"
The government isn’t making them do this. They decided on their own that this was the best business move. They couldn’t do this without buy in from the automakers upfront.
Selling the Bolt will be very easy. Prices for used Bolts are sky high.
The battery recall is in the past and nobody has reported issues since the new batteries were installed. My Bolt was fitted with a brand new battery. So in some ways, the car is practically new.
You say that Tesla has no quality problems. Tesla is the second worst car manufacturer out of all car makers. The only car maker less reliable than Tesla was Buick. I would say Tesla has come quality problems.
These scores are out of a 100. A 100! The Tesla Model 3 EV scored the best of the brand, with 59 points, but the Model S, Y and X scored 20, 18 and 5, in that order. It retains its position on the list as the second-least reliable brand.
Tesla is number one in customer satisfaction according to both Consumer Reports and JD Power. If Tesla's quality is actually bad then owners wouldn't love them so much.
Selling the Bolt will be very easy. Prices for used Bolts are sky high.
The battery recall is in the past and nobody has reported issues since the new batteries were installed. My Bolt was fitted with a brand new battery. So in some ways, the car is practically new.
Your Bolt is practically new? One of my cars has 101,000 miles on it. If I put a new battery in it, can I sell it as "new?"
My Bolt's new battery has a brand new 8 year/100,000 mile warranty. Given that the battery is the main thing that limits the lifetime of an EV, it's fair to say that in terms of longevity, the car is practically new.
The government isn’t making them do this. They decided on their own that this was the best business move. They couldn’t do this without buy in from the automakers upfront.
Absolutely. GM and Ford have a huge influence on legislation.
Notably, Toyota and Honda have been very much against the bans on gas cars because they are so far behind on electrification.
Selling the Bolt will be very easy. Prices for used Bolts are sky high.
The battery recall is in the past and nobody has reported issues since the new batteries were installed. My Bolt was fitted with a brand new battery. So in some ways, the car is practically new.
Your Bolt is practically new? One of my cars has 101,000 miles on it. If I put a new battery in it, can I sell it as "new?"
For an EV this is true to a large extent, as the battery is by far the primary factor determining longevity. So, yes, a 2019 used Bolt with 30K on it, a new battery and a warranty running through 2030 currently sells for around 24-25K while a brand new 2023 Bolt with the same features sells for 26K.
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I don’t like the concept of a government ban that sways the market in favor of one product or using money to influence politicians.
But that’s a heck of a power move by the American car companies to get ahead in this EV market and possibly influence legislation to squeeze their foreign competitors.
For those of you who are looking to buy an EV, I would stay away from Tesla. I know that that are what a lot of people think about when talking EVs, but you can get a much higher quality EV for a lot less. Ford, Chevy and VW make much better cars for less money than Tesla. I have a Mach-e and it blows any Tesla away.
If you are considering an EV, make sure you drive something else first instead just settling on a Tesla. You’ll be glad you did.
In addition, electric cars will be a much higher portion of new car sales in 2050 because of California's action. In California, they are already 16% of the market.
I imagine the Courts will not look favorably on this mandate.
For those of you who are looking to buy an EV, I would stay away from Tesla. I know that that are what a lot of people think about when talking EVs, but you can get a much higher quality EV for a lot less. Ford, Chevy and VW make much better cars for less money than Tesla. I have a Mach-e and it blows any Tesla away.
If you are considering an EV, make sure you drive something else first instead just settling on a Tesla. You’ll be glad you did.
I agree that you should try the others and compare.
Don't you know anything about the history of economics. Obviously the rubes in the early 20th century thought horse drawn carriages were always going to be the premier method of transportation. Fortunately the US government knew better and gave massive subsidies to Henry Ford and put a ban on all horse drawn carriages in 15 years unless you were Amish or part of a historical re-enactment. Without US government intervention we would still be debating the merits of automobiles vs horse drawn carriages. Obviously our almost octogenarian president and the ken doll looking and brained governor of California have wisdom and insight into the future that you are just too stupid to grasp.
That's a funny article. It seems to argue that while EVs are not perfect, they are still better than all the other alternatives.
It's way too late to stop the EV revolution. This is happening.
By 2030, 90% of all new light duty vehicles in the US will have a plug.
Please quit saying 90% of cars sold will have a plug by 2030. 1/3 of Americans live in apartments. There is no place for EV charging stations in existing apartments. NYC has like 6 million cars. There is no place for charging stations. Please quit with the ridiculous claim.
That's a funny article. It seems to argue that while EVs are not perfect, they are still better than all the other alternatives.
It's way too late to stop the EV revolution. This is happening.
By 2030, 90% of all new light duty vehicles in the US will have a plug.
Please quit saying 90% of cars sold will have a plug by 2030. 1/3 of Americans live in apartments. There is no place for EV charging stations in existing apartments. NYC has like 6 million cars. There is no place for charging stations. Please quit with the ridiculous claim.
Even in the unlikely event that 90% of them have plugs it doesn't mean they'll have buyers. You're right. I think about the neighborhood I once lived in in Boston where most dwellings were apartments with anywhere from four to, say thirty (maybe more) units and anywhere from four to thirty adults who owned cars living in them. Very few of those buildings have their own parking lots where you could put charging stations. Almost everyone parked on the street. Do we really think that someone is going to put chargers at fifteen foot intervals on every one of those streets and do the same in every US city?
In addition, electric cars will be a much higher portion of new car sales in 2050 because of California's action. In California, they are already 16% of the market.
I imagine the Courts will not look favorably on this mandate.
I wonder how that would play out. Who would take this to court?
Toyota, if they are still ICE heavy at the time?
Some consumers that don’t want an EV?
I am sure there will be exceptions and waivers or it may get kicked down the road. The simple announcement is to put automakers on notice.