Why Is The USA Goading Russia Into War?

facts please wrote:

MelRnr wrote:

This is an interesting piece. It looks back at Romney's comment in 2012 debate when he was mocked and laughed at for saying Russia was our greatest foe.

A relevant point to this thread is that it shows how much the US was NOT concerned about Russia. So I find it ridiculous for anyone to say US was goading Russia into war.

It also shows the curious pro Russia position some in the GOP currently have. A position that I as a registered Republican am really dismayed by.

Link:www.foxnews.com/media/trump-allies-def...

Who in the GOP is pro Russia?

Some are saying going to war over the Ukraine is not a big US concern. That is not pro Russia imo.

Trump's comments calling Putin a genius have been misconstrued. Trump said this wouldn't have happened on his watch.

He said Putin was a "genius" for playing the West and doing his little peace keeping sham initially.

Link:www.clayandbuck.com/fake-news-takes-ou...

Putin invaded Crimea on Obama's watch and now the entire country on Biden's and somehow this is Trump's fault? Trump is an egotistical prick, but this isn't his fault.

same ol, but different wrote:

facts please wrote:

Who in the GOP is pro Russia?

Some are saying going to war over the Ukraine is not a big US concern. That is not pro Russia imo.

Trump's comments calling Putin a genius have been misconstrued. Trump said this wouldn't have happened on his watch.

He said Putin was a "genius" for playing the West and doing his little peace keeping sham initially.

Link:www.clayandbuck.com/fake-news-takes-ou...

Putin invaded Crimea on Obama's watch and now the entire country on Biden's and somehow this is Trump's fault? Trump is an egotistical prick, but this isn't his fault.

It's the same people yelling others are "pro-Russia" that have been running around calling others "anti-vax". Magically, C19 has disappeared from the airwaves, and the "anti-vax" aren't all dead, or dying.

Nobody here is "pro-Russia", but some are certainly not for the militaristic encroachment on Russia. Kinda ironic how the anti-war Dem's are total militaristic war-mongers, eh? Obama and Hillary led the way right into this.

same ol, but different wrote:

MelRnr wrote:

When did I ever say I didn't know that? More assumptions by you based on your biases and binary thinking, lumping everyone who counters you into one group.

My comment mentioned Yeltsin who was President in the 90s when the comments in the post you are were referring to were made in 98, before Yeltsin had picked Putin to succeed him, which he later did winning the next election.

You said something about the author of an article likely viewing Yeltsin in a moralistic way, but not Putin. I made note that Yeltsin was the one who brought Putin in.

Aren't you also on record saying that Putin wants to rebuild the Soviet union, like so many have been? That is why I present Putin in his own words and actions displaying that he is against the communist system. Just today, Biden said that Putin wants to 'rebuild the Soviet Union'. It's propaganda, and unless you do your own research, many believe it. He is on record many times stating his dislike of the former system, and Vladimir Lenin for creating it.

The actions taking place in Ukraine, are not to 'rebuild the Soviet Union'. But, the useful idiots will keep ringing the same bell.

MelRnr wrote:

same ol, but different wrote:

You said something about the author of an article likely viewing Yeltsin in a moralistic way, but not Putin. I made note that Yeltsin was the one who brought Putin in.

Aren't you also on record saying that Putin wants to rebuild the Soviet union, like so many have been? That is why I present Putin in his own words and actions displaying that he is against the communist system. Just today, Biden said that Putin wants to 'rebuild the Soviet Union'. It's propaganda, and unless you do your own research, many believe it. He is on record many times stating his dislike of the former system, and Vladimir Lenin for creating it.

The actions taking place in Ukraine, are not to 'rebuild the Soviet Union'. But, the useful idiots will keep ringing the same bell.

1. All I said in that post is that that interview was commenting on Russia at that time in 1998, so I said he was referring to people "like Yeltsin". That is all I said.

2. I never said the Putin was trying to rebuild the Soviet Union. You can search through all my posts in all these threads and I never ever said that.

All I've ever expressed here is concern about Russian aggression against Ukraine, and my dismay about those here both denying it and now excusing, and spreading Russian propaganda.