Is a >3 hour marathon something to be proud of? I say if you are a woman, yes.. If you're a guy..

I don’t disagree, but you’re making a different argument than the one that started this thread.

Yes I was soundly beaten, I wasn't in the league of the guy who one that race. I was lapped, just like I would have lapped you if you were in that race.

That is close to 5 min/mile pace.

Heck, did you ever break 5:10 for 1 mile?

Be honest.. And you should post your real name too and your results so we can tell you aren't making up your '3:07 or 3:08' or whatever it is.

LOL, you know you are slower, less competitive, and a lower calibre athlete, so you'll try and dismiss whatever I've done because you simply CANNOT match my accomplishments.

What are your best times 200m-10 miles? Post them, surely we have one distance in common that we've both competed in.. Then we can settle who is the 'better' runner.

Although I think you know who that is anyways.. LOL

Of course I am slower than you (in 2003), I am a ultrarunner. I never said I was fast.

But I ran Marathons and ended up with 3:07.

Your "Marathon time" is based on a calculation. And that calculation assumes that you have trained for that longer endurance event well. This is not a guarantee or a way to prove what you could have run.

You actually have to run a Marathon in order to have a Marathon PR.

Greg, you have no idea who hard Marathon running is, because you never tried one.

It's one thing to think that you can hold a certain pace and it's a total different story to actually keep a pace up at mile 20.

Greg have you forgotten your meds mate?

In 20 years of prime running opportunity, you've run a 3K, two 5K, one 8k, zero 10ks, one 10 miler, zero Halfs, zero Marathons. Something like that?

Until you put a marathon result, you aren't respecting the distance, those who race and finish it, and what it takes to put up a competitive result. 3:07 is better than your PR - because yours is make believe.

As others said, get out there and show us what you got. I am less talented, but at your age managed 2:50 off moderate training... shouldn't be too hard.

BuyTheDip wrote:

Greg have you forgotten your meds mate?

There are a lot - more than we know - of people who refuse to take medication for bi-polar disorder. They would rather deal with the depression that comes after a manic high than medicate because when they are having the manic high they are on top of the world, it’s better than drugs, they feel like giants and see the rest of us as tiny little ants.

Greg wrote:

The title of this thread was a bit tongue in cheek. The fact so many people defend the 3 hour + marathoners is an indication this site is more saturated with your casual hobby jogger who got into marathoning. but never ran track competitively.

The point you’re missing is that it’s ridiculous for you to distinguish yourself from a “hobby jogger.” We all might have personal criteria for what constitutes a “competitive runner,” but it’s foolish to assume an air of superiority when many might draw that line with times well faster than your personal bests.

There are two results listed for you on Athlinks, in case you want to keep reliving your glory days of yore:

27:54 for the 2001 Edmonton Half Marathon 5 mile race

57:58 for the 2004 19th Annual St. Albert 10 Miler

Still not sure why you've been on ice so long in terms of racing, man.

Greg's 10 miler of 57:58 indicates only a 2:41 projected Marathon time.

If he would have a Half Marathon time his projected Marathon time would be even higher.

But that was in 2004.

Now 17 years later what can run Greg now?

6 miles was his last entry here on letsrun. He didn't provide a time.

The 3:07 guy wrote:

Greg's 10 miler of 57:58 indicates only a 2:41 projected Marathon time.

If he would have a Half Marathon time his projected Marathon time would be even higher.

But that was in 2004.

Now 17 years later what can run Greg now?

6 miles was his last entry here on letsrun. He didn't provide a time.

Who cares dude? I don't run to measure up to you.

I benched over my body weight several times today, can you do that? I also ran 4 miles while you made this post. No, I didn't time it..

I’m not taking things that seriously, it’s a LetsRun message board! I like the sheetposting, it drives engagement. Your post made it to the hot forum. Well done, I’m biting. You’ve got a bunch of mental real estate in our heads now lol.

Having said that, I agree with what you said about talent. You seem to agree too because you’re admitting that you possess “some” and “a certain degree” of talent instead of just claiming to be a gifted runner. Do you believe you are talented, without the “degree of”/“some” qualifiers?

Everyone has a degree of talent but in the context of these types of discussions about competitive times, a 16:21 is not wowing anyone, even off of lower mileage.

If you came to the thread to ask if it’s a comparatively stronger PR than a 3hr marathon, yeah, it is. But you seem to relish in feeling superior about it so that’s why everyone here is putting you down.

My first instinct is to put you down because to be putting people down who are proud of running a certain time is a fools errand. There’s always a bigger fish.

BTW - not sure where I got you running high mileage I am mistaken or misread earlier pages.

My general rule of thumb - if there are women running signficantly faster than you , it’s not a level of talent that anyone should feel like they can brag about online.

Greg wrote:

The 3:07 guy wrote:

Greg's 10 miler of 57:58 indicates only a 2:41 projected Marathon time.

If he would have a Half Marathon time his projected Marathon time would be even higher.

But that was in 2004.

Now 17 years later what can run Greg now?

6 miles was his last entry here on letsrun. He didn't provide a time.

Who cares dude? I don't run to measure up to you.

I benched over my body weight several times today, can you do that? I also ran 4 miles while you made this post. No, I didn't time it..

Dear Greg, do you not see the hypocrisy in your posts and this thread?

Although you may have been able to run 2:50 plus, you didn't. So why make a thread about people not being this good or that good if they haven't run under 3 hours but you've never done it, so...you can't say you could, you didn't. Either you have or haven't.

You're too arrogant to admit your post was uncalled for, even by your own standards.

You tell a guy who cares dude? But you're telling a 3:07 marathoner what you think, so should he care?

You then realize how childish you sound, so then you do the old fallback, "lighten up" "don't take everything so seriously" as if your post was now suppose to be a joke.

Seek help dude, fast. I worry for you as you've got some serious issues that need addressing by a profession.

Greg wrote:

The 3:07 guy wrote:

Greg's 10 miler of 57:58 indicates only a 2:41 projected Marathon time.

If he would have a Half Marathon time his projected Marathon time would be even higher.

But that was in 2004.

Now 17 years later what can run Greg now?

6 miles was his last entry here on letsrun. He didn't provide a time.

Who cares dude? I don't run to measure up to you.

I benched over my body weight several times today, can you do that? I also ran 4 miles while you made this post. No, I didn't time it..

Let me get this straight.

Greg is a 35 year old man who, unprompted, started a thread to ridicule 3 hr marathoners and he’s using his HS times as justification for it?

Oh dude.

Just go home already.

You’re such a loser.

Greg wrote:

The 3:07 guy wrote:

Greg's 10 miler of 57:58 indicates only a 2:41 projected Marathon time.

If he would have a Half Marathon time his projected Marathon time would be even higher.

But that was in 2004.

Now 17 years later what can run Greg now?

6 miles was his last entry here on letsrun. He didn't provide a time.

Who cares dude? I don't run to measure up to you.

I benched over my body weight several times today, can you do that? I also ran 4 miles while you made this post. No, I didn't time it..

Who cares? You care enough to start several thread to bully a guy who actually trains and competes to the best of his ability.

You are just a lazy bozo waiting for a miracle that would be anyone showing interest in your horrible script.

If you are in reasonable shape...no. When I was 45, decided to run my first marathon in over 30 years, was over 3 hrs, the next year, geared my training to the course (hilly) and took over 25 min off of it and was 2:50 or so. I just don't have the desire anymore and just stay in shape.

I don't tell a woman ( or anyone for that matter ) my marathon time unless they ask

Completely agree. Taking a time at a shorter distance and using a table to extrapolate to a marathon is plain bs.

My 3000m time - not even my best distance - converts to a 2:29 marathon. I ran about 18 minutes slower. That was even pace to being only 30 secs between the two halves, so I didn't die. I had an extensive running background, had done some 20 milers, but the type of runner I was - progressively worse as distances past 1500m/3000m - was never going to run a marathon equal to any shorter distance. Actually, I could barely run a half marathon at the 2:29 pace the calculator indicated I could run for a marathon.

I'd say for a guy that has limited natural talented, a 3:07 marathon reflects a lot of hard work and focus, and they'd have every right to be proud of that run.

I did somehow get third in a half-marathon when I was 55-years-old, and I am proud of that one!

Greg posts something ridiculous. People criticize Greg. Greg appears defensive.

I haven't read any of this thread, but I'll just assume this summary is correct for any Greg thread.