You've gotta admit, that 49 year-old guy who got beaten by the Ethiopian gal at a local turkey trot and threw a fit at the awards table was pretty pathetic.
You've gotta admit, that 49 year-old guy who got beaten by the Ethiopian gal at a local turkey trot and threw a fit at the awards table was pretty pathetic.
Nickyy wrote:
Miscellaneous wrote:
When young people take themselves seriously and express their opinions it appears pathetic. They should leave this to the more experienced older people.
I never said I was young. However you are obviously insecure about this issue.
You never said much of substance at all. You are obviously a troll or not very bright. I am 23 years old.
Murph800 wrote:
under a bridge wrote:
+1
So many people in this thread are proving the OP, who was clearly a troll, to be correct. Reading this thread makes me cringe to be a part of the same community.
You two can leave any time you want.
If you think that Armstronglivs should continue to polute the boards, then you really should cringe to be a part of this community and not address the problem.
How are you “addressing the problem”?
You are compounding it.
Yes, this is a troll post but there is a grain of truth to it. By the mid-50s, most runners are so injured and banged up that it is kind of a joke to even give awards. I've always go to laugh at these 60+ runners who act like they've won the olympics when they win their age. I'm 67, have had my hip replaced and run twice a week, one run hard, one run long and easy and have never enjoyed running more , . I'll race hard but realize it is all in fun.
Nickyy wrote:
When older people take running seriously it appears pathetic. This sport is for younger people. For older people it should just be a recreational hobby.
Is it pathetic because age prevents one from being competitive with the fastest runners, ie it's a hopeless pursuit, so why bother? If so, curious what other sorts of people OP thinks shouldn't take running seriously. Should people with physical handicaps run seriously? Should women run seriously?
Dr. Bob Bratton wrote:
Yes, this is a troll post but there is a grain of truth to it. By the mid-50s, most runners are so injured and banged up that it is kind of a joke to even give awards. I've always go to laugh at these 60+ runners who act like they've won the olympics when they win their age. I'm 67, have had my hip replaced and run twice a week, one run hard, one run long and easy and have never enjoyed running more , . I'll race hard but realize it is all in fun.
Maybe I'm just too young to understand this attitude, or maybe I just love running too much. There are mornings where our team easy group runs become competitive, pace just keeps building, and out sprinting a team mate at the end feels like winning the Olympics. I love some of those mornings better than winning a race, even though I know I've won nothing. I can't understand why you think it is pathetic for an old runner to feel a sense of accomplishment for winning his age group? That to me just seems incredibly positive. It gives me hope.
I've already said it here, but I hope how I feel about running today lasts all my life. I hope I enjoy running hard and trying to be the best runner I can be for the next 80years or more. I feel sorry for people who don't run, they are missing out.
When in life do you people believe others are entitled to be happy? Is there a list of allowable things? I think for normal well adjusted people they would find seeing someone truly happy, for any reason, for winning their age group in a local 10k or after a morning run with his team mates, to be a good thing. There is something wrong with a person who wants to make that bad and pathetic. Very wrong.
No one should run seriously except for young people. Because running is too serious for older people. And some younger people take themselves very seriously.
Nickyy wrote:
Steffen wrote:
Things suddenly became very diffucult for Nickyy when everybody understood he/she doesn´t have any results to back up his/her cockiness.
This thread was never about me. Many of you are so palpably insecure. My “results” are irrelevant. However, if you want to be in the conversation of my running level, let us first begin with a floor: Olympic Trials. However, this is not what this is about. Please understand that ability is what it is. This is about the obvious fact that this is a sport to do when you are young. It is interesting how so many of you think my opinion reflects on my ability as a runner. Older runners often look ridiculous when they are investing so much but it is the way of the world perhaps. I think most runners who did run well when young have little interest in trying to do so when older. Why would they? Again I ask do you think you look ridiculous when racing hard in middle age? Do you think Mike Tyson looks ridiculous boxing in his 50s? And of course the unstable clowns like Stoppit Smith will then want to fight me or ask me to step in the ring with Tyson. This is irrelevant just as if I had been a lousy runner it wouldn’t detract from the soundness of my point here.
Please don't disguise yourself as an accomplished runner. If in fact, you're an Olympian (Oly Trials is "your floor"), and in a middle/long distance event in which you've had to invest many years of training and racing, sadly you've not appreciated and or comprehended the true meaning of being a runner. The degree of your success is not the point, yeah great you won a few races, ran some fast times, and made a few teams...good for you. Where your thinking is flawed is that your opinion of "Why to run and compete at an older age?" shouldn't be questioned. It's simply done because you run and enjoy the process. I do understand what you're saying, unfortunately, you've failed to embrace the true meaning of being a runner no matter your past and or present accomplishments or your age. Being a "True" runner is a unique and select group of which we all are part of no matter how fast and or how many medals earned.
And finally, If you'd like to compare running resumes I'm feeling pretty good about mine at all levels and would gladly share with you.
"Go Run One"...If your not too old :)
NewRoadWarrior wrote:
>> I am the OP but I have nothing to do with this thread. <<
This thread is all about you and nobody else other than you. You're so clearly fixated on competitive running that it's painful to watch.
>> Hence the ad hominem attacks will surface. <<
If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross, but it's not for the timid.
You do have the appropriate amount of hostility for the LetsRun forum, however you are metaphorically getting out of the safari jeep and kicking the lions. Guess what that means, metaphorically speaking?
>> I certainly have never tried to be an aging competitive athlete. <<
That's because you've never been a competitive athlete at any age, no matter how hard you tried.
Thank you, thank you. Absolutely shut Nickyy down.
Kinda true. Ryan Hall provides a good example of how older people/adults should approach their "fitness life".
Young people should dedicate themselves fully to running (if they enjoy it, and got the talent for it). It can lead to an amazing time in HS, racing with a team and building skills that will help in any area of life. It can lead to full-ride college scholarships at elite schools. For very, very few people it can even lead to a career.
Someone in the mid to late 30s, who already reached his peak times and competed for a decade, why still devote so much to running? If it's the numbers, or still achieving fast times, they could just go to the gym and lift heavy weights and set PRs after PRs for many years, all WHILE building a stronger body AND looking much better than the skinny, starved standard runner look.
If Ryan Hall went into a social setting (like a bar, or swimming pool), no one would have noticed him or taken him seriously if he was a 2:30 marathoner. Hell, even being Ryan Hall most people didn't recognize him or think he was good looking when his BMI was sub 20 in his running-optimized body. Now, after switching from running to lifting/bodybuilding, he not just feels much better and got much stronger bones and muscles, he also has a "presence" now whenever he goes somewhere. If he was still single, it would be no problem now for him to draw attention. Back in his running days, people thought he is a sick-looking, fragile man.
There are other sports/physical activities than running that might lead to a better life as people get older. It's also much healthier - nothing can happen while lifting with good form at reasonable weights, whereas running is the only sport that exerts 3-5x BW EACH step on the bones, tendons, ligaments, muscles and joints in the legs and even if someone is just running 100k a week at 180 cadence, that's roughly 100,000 footsteps at 3-5x BW each a runner is doing each week. That's a lot of pounding, when they could just be doing a classic Rippetoe 3x5 three times a week and get a 200-240 lbs+ buffed, strong guy that can squat sets of 300, DL 400 and bench 200+ and look much better in a shirt or on the beach.
I rather doubt that anyone shut down Nickyyy. My guess is he got tired of toying with you guys.
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
Kinda true. Ryan Hall provides a good example of how older people/adults should approach their "fitness life".
Young people should dedicate themselves fully to running (if they enjoy it, and got the talent for it). It can lead to an amazing time in HS, racing with a team and building skills that will help in any area of life. It can lead to full-ride college scholarships at elite schools. For very, very few people it can even lead to a career.
Someone in the mid to late 30s, who already reached his peak times and competed for a decade, why still devote so much to running? If it's the numbers, or still achieving fast times, they could just go to the gym and lift heavy weights and set PRs after PRs for many years, all WHILE building a stronger body AND looking much better than the skinny, starved standard runner look.
If Ryan Hall went into a social setting (like a bar, or swimming pool), no one would have noticed him or taken him seriously if he was a 2:30 marathoner. Hell, even being Ryan Hall most people didn't recognize him or think he was good looking when his BMI was sub 20 in his running-optimized body. Now, after switching from running to lifting/bodybuilding, he not just feels much better and got much stronger bones and muscles, he also has a "presence" now whenever he goes somewhere. If he was still single, it would be no problem now for him to draw attention. Back in his running days, people thought he is a sick-looking, fragile man.
There are other sports/physical activities than running that might lead to a better life as people get older. It's also much healthier - nothing can happen while lifting with good form at reasonable weights, whereas running is the only sport that exerts 3-5x BW EACH step on the bones, tendons, ligaments, muscles and joints in the legs and even if someone is just running 100k a week at 180 cadence, that's roughly 100,000 footsteps at 3-5x BW each a runner is doing each week. That's a lot of pounding, when they could just be doing a classic Rippetoe 3x5 three times a week and get a 200-240 lbs+ buffed, strong guy that can squat sets of 300, DL 400 and bench 200+ and look much better in a shirt or on the beach.
Hey Phil, some people just enjoy running. Some people enjoy competing.
Maybe, but it has nothing to do with the generalization in the o.p.
You could multiply your old guy example by a thousand and not derive a fair conclusion.
Theres nothing ignoble or "disgusting" about anybody of any age engaging in serious running, and competition, so long as they comport themselves civilly, and abide by rules of the sport.
Making deragotory statements about classes of people who are so engaged, however, is definitely disgusting.
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
Kinda true. Ryan Hall provides a good example of how older people/adults should approach their "fitness life".
Young people should dedicate themselves fully to running (if they enjoy it, and got the talent for it). It can lead to an amazing time in HS, racing with a team and building skills that will help in any area of life. It can lead to full-ride college scholarships at elite schools. For very, very few people it can even lead to a career.
Someone in the mid to late 30s, who already reached his peak times and competed for a decade, why still devote so much to running? If it's the numbers, or still achieving fast times, they could just go to the gym and lift heavy weights and set PRs after PRs for many years, all WHILE building a stronger body AND looking much better than the skinny, starved standard runner look.
If Ryan Hall went into a social setting (like a bar, or swimming pool), no one would have noticed him or taken him seriously if he was a 2:30 marathoner. Hell, even being Ryan Hall most people didn't recognize him or think he was good looking when his BMI was sub 20 in his running-optimized body. Now, after switching from running to lifting/bodybuilding, he not just feels much better and got much stronger bones and muscles, he also has a "presence" now whenever he goes somewhere. If he was still single, it would be no problem now for him to draw attention. Back in his running days, people thought he is a sick-looking, fragile man.
There are other sports/physical activities than running that might lead to a better life as people get older. It's also much healthier - nothing can happen while lifting with good form at reasonable weights, whereas running is the only sport that exerts 3-5x BW EACH step on the bones, tendons, ligaments, muscles and joints in the legs and even if someone is just running 100k a week at 180 cadence, that's roughly 100,000 footsteps at 3-5x BW each a runner is doing each week. That's a lot of pounding, when they could just be doing a classic Rippetoe 3x5 three times a week and get a 200-240 lbs+ buffed, strong guy that can squat sets of 300, DL 400 and bench 200+ and look much better in a shirt or on the beach.
Hey Phil, shut your clueless trap. You should quit since you’ll never run a halfway respectable time. Thanks a million.
How the heck did an obvious troll post with no substance get 10 pages in one day? Is it just the same 3 usual suspects yelling at each other?
I agree completely. What sad old moron is running a sad-sack 4 hour marathon and thinks it's even an accomplishment to torture themselves for 4 hours? #Masochism
sbeefyk2 wrote:
It’s true. But maybe the OP should have clarified “running” vs “making running road races your only enjoyment in life.” Because the fact is even a few miles of running a few times a week has unbeatable cardiovascular benefits for older people.
But yea, it is funny seeing 70 year olds running a 5:30 mile and getting hyped up like they broke 4 minutes.
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Are you joking? I'm impressed by any 70 year old who can break 6:30 for a mile. A 70 year old breaking 6:30 is probably equivalent to a 22 year old breaking 4. In fact I'm sure there are more runners who have broken 4 than there are 70 year olds who have broken 5:30.
Meant to say: A 70 year old breaking 5:30 is probably equivalent to a 22 year old breaking 4.
BYU disproves this
Ok, tell me what's wrong with this picture: 'too young to get the vaccine but too old to run seriously.'
What other great news do you have for me?!
I feel like that forgotten middle-child.
And that's not a good thing!