Armstronglivs wrote:
sleepy Floyd? wrote:
you do realize that the reason the cops showed up is because they were called there by the store owner, not just because of the fake bill but because of the way he was behaving. Passing a fake bill doesn't set off some alarm with the police.
Did you know that they found capsules in the back seat of the police car with Floyd's DNA on them, he was ingesting the drugs so that stye wouldn't be found on him. The guy was OD'ing.
He wasn't overdosing. The two autopsies both concluded the drugs in his system did not contribute to his death. This false claim that he was overdosing is white supremacist propaganda to try to exonerate the police and blame Floyd for his own death. But it finds a ready audience here.
That is false. The only autopsy that matters (Hennepin county), concluded no such thing. To the contrary, it reports that Floyd has 11 ng/ml of fentanyl in his body. We all now know, even YOU now know, that 11 ng/ml concentration of fentanyl in a human being is lethal. The autopsy report makes that clear to YOU: "In fatalities from fentanyl, blood concentrations are variable and have been reported as low as 3 ng/mL." You will die if you have that much fentanyl in your body.
https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepinus/residents/public-safety/documents/floyd-autopsy-6-3-20.pdfIn accordance with your bizarre behavior throughout this thread (and other ones), you should start calling the medical examiner a white supremacist, because he disagrees with you.
Not in my hood wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
You aren't very bright. You made a distinction between his so-called "behaviour" and the alleged passing of a 20 dollar bill. The latter may be grounds for an arrest but the former isn't - unless it constitutes or reveals a separate crime.
I never claimed to be as bright as you, but know the "behaviour" that leads to using funny money and resisting arrest are sure ways to spend some time in jail.
No, they aren't. It is courts that decide these things, not the police. And it certainly shouldn't require the police killing a suspect.
A real tough guy this cop. Bet he's proud of how he showed that dangerous woman speeder. 10 miles over the limit!
Armstronglivs wrote:
Not in my hood wrote:
I never claimed to be as bright as you, but know the "behaviour" that leads to using funny money and resisting arrest are sure ways to spend some time in jail.
No, they aren't. It is courts that decide these things, not the police. And it certainly shouldn't require the police killing a suspect.
So breaking the law and resisting arrest are okay in this country?
849 wrote:
A real tough guy this cop. Bet he's proud of how he showed that dangerous woman speeder. 10 miles over the limit!
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/news/nation-world/story/2020-06-02/minneapolis-police-release-records-of-four-officers-involved-in-floyds-death
Simple questions. Why wouldn't the woman pulled over for speeding not get out of her car when asked to do so by the officer?
Do you think people showed be allowed to assault and disrespect the police?
Muldoon wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
He wasn't overdosing. The two autopsies both concluded the drugs in his system did not contribute to his death. This false claim that he was overdosing is white supremacist propaganda to try to exonerate the police and blame Floyd for his own death. But it finds a ready audience here.
That is false. The only autopsy that matters (Hennepin county), concluded no such thing. To the contrary, it reports that Floyd has 11 ng/ml of fentanyl in his body. We all now know, even YOU now know, that 11 ng/ml concentration of fentanyl in a human being is lethal. The autopsy report makes that clear to YOU: "In fatalities from fentanyl, blood concentrations are variable and have been reported as low as 3 ng/mL." You will die if you have that much fentanyl in your body.
https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepinus/residents/public-safety/documents/floyd-autopsy-6-3-20.pdfIn accordance with your bizarre behavior throughout this thread (and other ones), you should start calling the medical examiner a white supremacist, because he disagrees with you.
He doesn't. Like most white supremacist apologists for Chauvin, you are lying. The drugs in his system were "potentially" lethal but not given as the cause of death.
The Hennepin County Medical Examiner (HCME) said the cause of death was "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual restraint, and neck compression."
It continued to list arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease, fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use as being significant conditions that were underlying causes in Floyd's cause of death.
Medical examiners said the fentanyl levels were at a potentially "fatal level," but that it was a combination of factors that led to Floyd's death.
https://www-newsweek-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.newsweek.com/fact-check-george-floyd-cause-death-1568687?amp_js_v=a6&_gsa=1&=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA%3D%3D#aoh=16153161327490&_ct=1615316263065&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.newsweek.com%2Ffact-check-george-floyd-cause-death-1568687Not in my hood wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
No, they aren't. It is courts that decide these things, not the police. And it certainly shouldn't require the police killing a suspect.
So breaking the law and resisting arrest are okay in this country?
You haven't understood the point. But don't worry about it - it would be a change for you to grasp any of it.
Armstronglivs wrote:
The Hennepin County Medical Examiner (HCME) said the cause of death was "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual restraint, and neck compression."
It continued to list arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease, fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use as being significant conditions that were underlying causes in Floyd's cause of death.
Medical examiners said the fentanyl levels were at a potentially "fatal level," but that it was a combination of factors that led to Floyd's death.
Great post! Cause of death is so much clearer now!!
Sure, Floyd was not a role model and should not be worshipped. But, we need to HOLD THESE PIGS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR CONTINUED ABUSE OF POWER. We need to punish the other 3-4 pigs that were with him because complicity and toxic culture are the reason police are getting away with these things.
runnerboy70 wrote:
Armstrong and Floyd are both black and that's why Armstrong defends this criminal.
I am white. But unlike you and your buddies, I am not a white supremacist.
Armstronglivs wrote:
Muldoon wrote:
That is false. The only autopsy that matters (Hennepin county), concluded no such thing. To the contrary, it reports that Floyd has 11 ng/ml of fentanyl in his body. We all now know, even YOU now know, that 11 ng/ml concentration of fentanyl in a human being is lethal. The autopsy report makes that clear to YOU: "In fatalities from fentanyl, blood concentrations are variable and have been reported as low as 3 ng/mL." You will die if you have that much fentanyl in your body.
https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepinus/residents/public-safety/documents/floyd-autopsy-6-3-20.pdfIn accordance with your bizarre behavior throughout this thread (and other ones), you should start calling the medical examiner a white supremacist, because he disagrees with you.
He doesn't. Like most white supremacist apologists for Chauvin, you are lying. The drugs in his system were "potentially" lethal but not given as the cause of death.
The Hennepin County Medical Examiner (HCME) said the cause of death was "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual restraint, and neck compression."
It continued to list arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease, fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use as being significant conditions that were underlying causes in Floyd's cause of death.
Medical examiners said the fentanyl levels were at a potentially "fatal level," but that it was a combination of factors that led to Floyd's death.
You posted this: "The two autopsies both concluded the drugs in his system did not contribute to his death."
That was a lie. You are a liar. You even contradicted your own lie within the space of two posts (bolded above).
You are also a race-trolling obsessed weirdo.
Not in my hood wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
The Hennepin County Medical Examiner (HCME) said the cause of death was "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual restraint, and neck compression."
It continued to list arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease, fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use as being significant conditions that were underlying causes in Floyd's cause of death.
Medical examiners said the fentanyl levels were at a potentially "fatal level," but that it was a combination of factors that led to Floyd's death.
Great post! Cause of death is so much clearer now!!
Not for you. That would be asking too much. But when a court finds Chauvin guilty of homicide the question will be resolved.
steve. the. addict... wrote:
Sure, Floyd was not a role model and should not be worshipped. But, we need to HOLD THESE PIGS ACCOUNTABLE FOR THEIR CONTINUED ABUSE OF POWER. We need to punish the other 3-4 pigs that were with him because complicity and toxic culture are the reason police are getting away with these things.
How should the police have handled it differently?
How did anyone get away with anything? Weren't they all fired and DC is still in jail ?
Armstronglivs wrote:
Not in my hood wrote:
Great post! Cause of death is so much clearer now!!
Not for you. That would be asking too much. But when a court finds Chauvin guilty of homicide the question will be resolved.
If enough evidence is presented and that happens, great! Can you say the same if the verdict goes the other way?
Muldoon wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
He doesn't. Like most white supremacist apologists for Chauvin, you are lying. The drugs in his system were "potentially" lethal but not given as the cause of death.
The Hennepin County Medical Examiner (HCME) said the cause of death was "cardiopulmonary arrest complicating law enforcement subdual restraint, and neck compression."
It continued to list arteriosclerotic and hypertensive heart disease, fentanyl intoxication and recent methamphetamine use as being significant conditions that were underlying causes in Floyd's cause of death.
Medical examiners said the fentanyl levels were at a potentially "fatal level," but that it was a combination of factors that led to Floyd's death.
You posted this: "The two autopsies both concluded the drugs in his system did not contribute to his death."
That was a lie. You are a liar. You even contradicted your own lie within the space of two posts (bolded above).
You are also a race-trolling obsessed weirdo.
The drugs did not cause his death - that was the a definitive conclusion of one of the two autopsies, and the other did not produce a conclusion of a drug overdose.
The homicide charges are based on evidence that Fkoyd was killed unlawfully by the police. But that doesn't suit your agenda. Hence you try to distort and misrepresent the medical examiners' findings. But that wouldn't be "race-trolling" - even though you would blame Floyd for his death and exonerate Chauvin - would it?
Not in my hood wrote:
How should the police have handled it differently
?
Take their knee off his neck.
Armstronglivs - who did the two autopsies you speak of? I have only seen the Hennepin County version. Can you post the other one?
breit leit wrote:
Not in my hood wrote:
How should the police have handled it differently
?
Take their knee off his neck.
You need to better describe how you would deal with some one larger than you, on drugs, resisting arrest and calm then down and restrain them.
Not just say what you would do once they have calmed down.