Dr. Racket wrote:
Harambe wrote:
The beauty of free trade is that we can now use our market power to lobby for better working conditions in developing countries.
Again, that has turned out to not be as apparent as was originally thought in the 80s and 90s.
it is so 100% obvious that in 10 years, after trying this managed semi-free trade nonsense that we'll be back to classic free trading.
It's total hocum to think we can control trade wisely via strong central government decisions.
Harambe wrote:
Paradoxical wrote:
It's easy to make gains when you're buying products made from slave-labor, Harambe.
The beauty of free trade is that we can now use our market power to lobby for better working conditions in developing countries.
How? Threatening tariffs? Then it's not really free trade anymore.
roller coaster wrote:
Harambe wrote:
The beauty of free trade is that we can now use our market power to lobby for better working conditions in developing countries.
How? Threatening tariffs? Then it's not really free trade anymore.
1) Public pressure on companies to source from ethical producers. I.e. the market.
2) Trade partners of rich countries make lots of $$ themselves which improves working conditions.
Turns out giving people money basically solves every problem you can imagine.
Besides, it's hard to argue labor conditions have gotten worse in developing countries in the last 30 years. Do people contend they would have improved MORE had global trade not taken off?
Dr. Racket wrote:
Harambe wrote:
The beauty of free trade is that we can now use our market power to lobby for better working conditions in developing countries.
Again, that has turned out to not be as apparent as was originally thought in the 80s and 90s.
As I said, do you think labor conditions would have improved more in developing countries without global trade? I don't think so.
Harambe wrote:
Dr. Racket wrote:
Again, that has turned out to not be as apparent as was originally thought in the 80s and 90s.
As I said, do you think labor conditions would have improved more in developing countries without global trade? I don't think so.
Yes, the options are either complete free trade or totally locked down, ultra restrictive to the max trade. Those are definitely the only choices, and everyone will agree there's no room at all for nuance, especially in a world where literally no country has totally free trade to begin with.
Dr. Racket wrote:
Harambe wrote:
As I said, do you think labor conditions would have improved more in developing countries without global trade? I don't think so.
Yes, the options are either complete free trade or totally locked down, ultra restrictive to the max trade. Those are definitely the only choices, and everyone will agree there's no room at all for nuance, especially in a world where literally no country has totally free trade to begin with.
You seem skeptical of free trade. Where, then, do you stand on the spectrum from totally free to totally protectionist?
I agree there is plenty of room for nuance. Most of the anti-free trade talking points I have been arguing against are not nuanced.
First approval polls for Joe are coming in - average of 56 so far, per RCP. Incl one 63.
So sad that Trump never got over even 50.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president-biden-job-approval-7320.html
agip wrote:
First approval polls for Joe are coming in - average of 56 so far, per RCP. Incl one 63.
So sad that Trump never got over even 50.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president-biden-job-approval-7320.html
Bidon beats Trump AGAIN.
Dr. Racket wrote:
Yes, the options are either complete free trade or totally locked down, ultra restrictive to the max trade. Those are definitely the only choices, and everyone will agree there's no room at all for nuance, especially in a world where literally no country has totally free trade to begin with.
What matters the most is the policies of the less developed countries, and not those of the developed countries. The LDCs benefit the most when they were given the maximum market access. How they use that access is up to them.
Just Another Hobby Jogger wrote:
Dr. Racket wrote:
Yes, the options are either complete free trade or totally locked down, ultra restrictive to the max trade. Those are definitely the only choices, and everyone will agree there's no room at all for nuance, especially in a world where literally no country has totally free trade to begin with.
What matters the most is the policies of the less developed countries, and not those of the developed countries. The LDCs benefit the most when they were given the maximum market access. How they use that access is up to them.
some truth to a divergence between less developed and developed.
we've seen many examples of lesser developed nations using protectionism to nurture nascent industries, which then go on to become successful. South Korea for ex. I think that's fine...small nations can be overwhelmed by the giant multinationals and therefore kept poor.
But big, rich developed nations aren't going to benefit from protectionism. Only way they can do well is to innovate and make high margin items. Protecting the US textile industry, for ex, would be incredibly stupid since we have no edge there. But high tech? We can do that. Protectionism will only create4 subsidized industries that can't compete anymore, because they don't have to.
NOICE!
This is how government should work.
By leading the nation in big things we need to do. That are hard.
President Joe Biden announced the ambitious plan of replacing the entire fleet of autos owned by the federal government with electric vehicles as his administration takes steps to embrace clean energy.
agip wrote:
NOICE!
This is how government should work.
By leading the nation in big things we need to do. That are hard.
President Joe Biden announced the ambitious plan of replacing the entire fleet of autos owned by the federal government with electric vehicles as his administration takes steps to embrace clean energy.
Beautiful. I’m rather impressed by this, and he shouldn’t stop there.
Hardloper wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:
Sorry folks, but the guy has got only 9 pages and he's already 5 days in. At this rate he's not even gonna hit 700 pages in 4 years, assuming the 25th doesn't get him first. Total flop.
The Trump thread IS popular because it was Boomerpole's full-time job to keep it active
fixed.
He's still there, and it's still outperforming this thread. Even he seems to know who the real president is.
Watch as Biden crashes and burns over the next few months, and his supporters with him, while Trump sits in his mansion directing their 2022 election losses along with the GOP traitors.
agip wrote:
NOICE!
This is how government should work.
By leading the nation in big things we need to do. That are hard.
President Joe Biden announced the ambitious plan of replacing the entire fleet of autos owned by the federal government with electric vehicles as his administration takes steps to embrace clean energy.
Excellent. Lead from the front with the obvious stuff. Decarbonization is going to happen. Just hope it can be soon enough.
Bad Wigins wrote:
fixed.
He's still there, and it's still outperforming this thread. Even he seems to know who the real president is.
Watch as Biden crashes and burns over the next few months, and his supporters with him, while Trump sits in his mansion directing their 2022 election losses along with the GOP traitors.
Don't you mean 2600 election losses?
The GOP is a party pushing to overthrow a sexual predator in office. Not that that matters to Democrats embracing his War machine. Patriot Party the way to go now . Less War, better economy, less domestic crime. More guns for The People to protect the innocent not just the powerful
agip wrote:
NOICE!
This is how government should work.
By leading the nation in big things we need to do. That are hard.
President Joe Biden announced the ambitious plan of replacing the entire fleet of autos owned by the federal government with electric vehicles as his administration takes steps to embrace clean energy.
so, what exactly are cars owned by the federal govt?
FBI cars? Military cars? Because anything that is expected to tootle around all day and then do a high speed chase is screwed. anything that needs to go from one state to another is screwed. presumably this mean all federal employees will have electric company cars? are the car parks / homes equipped?
seriously - what does it mean?
#LHRC wrote:
The GOP is a party pushing to overthrow a sexual predator in office. Not that that matters to Democrats embracing his War machine. Patriot Party the way to go now . Less War, better economy, less domestic crime. More guns for The People to protect the innocent not just the powerful
Agreed - We The People must send lots of cash to support the Patriot Party so trump can save America again. It may take several years, but the Patriot Party will eat into the GOP enough to take over. Sure, the Dems will reign supreme for a decade or longer, but that'll teach the treasonous GOP a lesson!
Bad Wigins wrote:
Hardloper wrote:
The Trump thread IS popular because it was Boomerpole's full-time job to keep it active
fixed.
He's still there, and it's still outperforming this thread. Even he seems to know who the real president is.
Watch as Biden crashes and burns over the next few months, and his supporters with him, while Trump sits in his mansion directing their 2022 election losses along with the GOP traitors.
This thread will never be as popular because we have a real president now and the country no longer needs to worry about tomorrow. We have a leader again.
I am looking forward to trump running a parallel government from his garage, taking credit for any republican win and ensuring those on the fence suffer defeat just like he delivered in GA.
Bad Wigins wrote:Watch as Biden crashes and burns over the next few months, and his supporters with him, while Trump sits in his mansion directing their 2022 election losses along with the GOP traitors.
Is this like flagpole's "Mueller is coming" schtick? Given your track record on LRC predictions (no more than 2600 cases indeed; creeping up on 1000x that prediction. 1000 times!!!), I think we can all be confident your prediction here will age as well as FP's.