This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
Resident blowhard? Alls I’ve done is stated with historical facts why Novak is now and has been the greatest tennis player on earth. And in return I’ve asked you to justify otherwise. You simply have not and cannot do so. So now you’re talking about body pillows. Pull it together dude. Use your words to say something meaningful in reply. Not a sad attempt at an insult. Come on. You are superior to all in this thread. Throw your hat in the ring and mount a justification for your ridiculous assertions. Truly disappointing.
I have justified many times. You just don't trust my expertise. That's fine. You are welcome to come to to the US Open with me this year if you want a piece of the Harambe Experience.
There is nothing I can say that will convince you because you don't trust my experience and knowledge. This is understandable on an anonymous forum, but it means there is no point to your continued yelling. We're going to have to agree to disagree. I hope Chokervic recovers.
I appreciate your honesty in saying you don’t have anything relative to say other than your vague expertise. It’s been a fun ride. I humbly accept your resignation in this trivial matter. It takes a real man to admit when they've run out of options. Godspeed in any other arguments you have to make here. But I’m gracious that you finally admitted any arguments you have regarding Novak are just based on your feelings. Good luck kid.
Yes, he’s very dishonest. Plus he’s bragging about a clown who got 217 shots as a paragon of safety and effectiveness of the vaccine but refuses to get his new booster every four months. Very dishonest.
I have got all the boosters recommended for my age and health status.
Incorrect. I've stated countless times these are my opinions based on my expertise. There is nothing wrong with stating an opinion. You are free to disagree with it. I am not saying anything broader than "Chokervic is playing worse because long COVID."
Do you call up CNN and fox news and ESPN when their pundits make claims based on eyewitness observation and opinions, raging at them? No, you don't.
So your response is still just trust me. Your intellectual standards and rigors are truly impeccable. A man incapable of a coherent argument. Just hides behind, I’m allowed to have an opinion man, it’s no big deal. You’re supposed to be the intellectual giant. Come on man.
Laughable since you continually argue that we don’t know who high risk adults are. Only in hindsight. You really aren’t very smart are you?
We do know. The original series was obviously a good idea for everyone, not just high risk adults. Now, we don't need to ask/coerce/shame everyone into getting the shot because the primary series gave excellent immunity and ended the pandemic.
You are trying to claim the CDC is demanding boosters for everyone again. That's not the case. Because you can't read.
This is different from your argument that people in 2021 who 'had agency' and decided to not get vaxxed were making a smart choice. They were dumb. Many people who weren't 'high risk' died back then. Because they listened to people like you.
Congrats. You killed Americans.
Let me correct you here before you get started on this rant.
Omicron ended the pandemic - something the vaccines failed to do. Even you agreed on this earlier.
Laughable since you continually argue that we don’t know who high risk adults are. Only in hindsight. You really aren’t very smart are you?
We do know. The original series was obviously a good idea for everyone, not just high risk adults. Now, we don't need to ask/coerce/shame everyone into getting the shot because the primary series gave excellent immunity and ended the pandemic.
You are trying to claim the CDC is demanding boosters for everyone again. That's not the case. Because you can't read.
This is different from your argument that people in 2021 who 'had agency' and decided to not get vaxxed were making a smart choice. They were dumb. Many people who weren't 'high risk' died back then. Because they listened to people like you.
Congrats. You killed Americans.
You’re right, the CDC is making the recommendation for 65+, not for everyone. But you already said the boosters are a good idea for everyone, if not necessary. Which is it?
People having agency in their health care decisions is not even remotely close to telling other people what to do with their bodies, even implicitly. That’s the domain of you guys, not “antivaxxers,” which you’ve again admitted with your coercion and shame comments. Because that’s exactly what you did, even though 2600bore (you) said there was no “mandate.” It’s almost like you think corporate America wasn’t listening to the NIH/CDC/FDA🙄
Somehow Djokovic became a counter cultural icon, massively pissing off the likes of you, simply because he opted to get natural immunity while following Covid protocols but also pointing out the hypocrisy of the authoritarian monolith. After which he then merely resumed winning. The b*stard.
I have justified many times. You just don't trust my expertise. That's fine. You are welcome to come to to the US Open with me this year if you want a piece of the Harambe Experience.
There is nothing I can say that will convince you because you don't trust my experience and knowledge. This is understandable on an anonymous forum, but it means there is no point to your continued yelling. We're going to have to agree to disagree. I hope Chokervic recovers.
I appreciate your honesty in saying you don’t have anything relative to say other than your vague expertise. It’s been a fun ride. I humbly accept your resignation in this trivial matter. It takes a real man to admit when they've run out of options. Godspeed in any other arguments you have to make here. But I’m gracious that you finally admitted any arguments you have regarding Novak are just based on your feelings. Good luck kid.
It’s all you’ve got too :)
you: he won before
me: but now he lost
A real clash of titans. But at least I’m not a blowhard who pretends he was paid by the word.
We do know. The original series was obviously a good idea for everyone, not just high risk adults. Now, we don't need to ask/coerce/shame everyone into getting the shot because the primary series gave excellent immunity and ended the pandemic.
You are trying to claim the CDC is demanding boosters for everyone again. That's not the case. Because you can't read.
This is different from your argument that people in 2021 who 'had agency' and decided to not get vaxxed were making a smart choice. They were dumb. Many people who weren't 'high risk' died back then. Because they listened to people like you.
Congrats. You killed Americans.
Let me correct you here before you get started on this rant.
Omicron ended the pandemic - something the vaccines failed to do. Even you agreed on this earlier.
But remember, it only ended the pandemic for the vaccinated, not the rest of us😂
We do know. The original series was obviously a good idea for everyone, not just high risk adults. Now, we don't need to ask/coerce/shame everyone into getting the shot because the primary series gave excellent immunity and ended the pandemic.
You are trying to claim the CDC is demanding boosters for everyone again. That's not the case. Because you can't read.
This is different from your argument that people in 2021 who 'had agency' and decided to not get vaxxed were making a smart choice. They were dumb. Many people who weren't 'high risk' died back then. Because they listened to people like you.
Congrats. You killed Americans.
You’re right, the CDC is making the recommendation for 65+, not for everyone. But you already said the boosters are a good idea for everyone, if not necessary. Which is it?
People having agency in their health care decisions is not even remotely close to telling other people what to do with their bodies, even implicitly. That’s the domain of you guys, not “antivaxxers,” which you’ve again admitted with your coercion and shame comments. Because that’s exactly what you did, even though 2600bore (you) said there was no “mandate.” It’s almost like you think corporate America wasn’t listening to the NIH/CDC/FDA🙄
Somehow Djokovic became a counter cultural icon, massively pissing off the likes of you, simply because he opted to get natural immunity while following Covid protocols but also pointing out the hypocrisy of the authoritarian monolith. After which he then merely resumed winning. The b*stard.
I actually didn’t say they were necessary. I said the opposite. I think they’re a net positive for any individual for which they’re recommended, but all vaxxed people are already well protected. The net effect of a booster is good, but not as huge as the primary series. Also, the risk of COVID is lower in the vaccinated. So it’s not as important that everyone run for the booster nowadays, although people would be smart to!
I have zero issue with any corporate mandate — it’s private organization and they can make any rules they want that don’t violate employment law. My libertarian ideals are strong.
Chokervic cried like a baby and blasted antivaxx talking points all over the media for months. That killed people. Your king, is a killer.
You’re right, the CDC is making the recommendation for 65+, not for everyone. But you already said the boosters are a good idea for everyone, if not necessary. Which is it?
People having agency in their health care decisions is not even remotely close to telling other people what to do with their bodies, even implicitly. That’s the domain of you guys, not “antivaxxers,” which you’ve again admitted with your coercion and shame comments. Because that’s exactly what you did, even though 2600bore (you) said there was no “mandate.” It’s almost like you think corporate America wasn’t listening to the NIH/CDC/FDA🙄
Somehow Djokovic became a counter cultural icon, massively pissing off the likes of you, simply because he opted to get natural immunity while following Covid protocols but also pointing out the hypocrisy of the authoritarian monolith. After which he then merely resumed winning. The b*stard.
I actually didn’t say they were necessary. I said the opposite. I think they’re a net positive for any individual for which they’re recommended, but all vaxxed people are already well protected. The net effect of a booster is good, but not as huge as the primary series. Also, the risk of COVID is lower in the vaccinated. So it’s not as important that everyone run for the booster nowadays, although people would be smart to!
I have zero issue with any corporate mandate — it’s private organization and they can make any rules they want that don’t violate employment law. My libertarian ideals are strong.
Chokervic cried like a baby and blasted antivaxx talking points all over the media for months. That killed people. Your king, is a killer.
But you have lots of issues with anyone wanting agency in their healthcare decisions, undermining your purported, pretend libertarian ideals. You’re more of a communist/socialist.
Oh, all unvaxxed but naturally immune people aren’t well protected I guess? That’s funny, and only true in your fascist monolithic world.
You’re right, the CDC is making the recommendation for 65+, not for everyone. But you already said the boosters are a good idea for everyone, if not necessary. Which is it?
People having agency in their health care decisions is not even remotely close to telling other people what to do with their bodies, even implicitly. That’s the domain of you guys, not “antivaxxers,” which you’ve again admitted with your coercion and shame comments. Because that’s exactly what you did, even though 2600bore (you) said there was no “mandate.” It’s almost like you think corporate America wasn’t listening to the NIH/CDC/FDA🙄
Somehow Djokovic became a counter cultural icon, massively pissing off the likes of you, simply because he opted to get natural immunity while following Covid protocols but also pointing out the hypocrisy of the authoritarian monolith. After which he then merely resumed winning. The b*stard.
I actually didn’t say they were necessary. I said the opposite. I think they’re a net positive for any individual for which they’re recommended, but all vaxxed people are already well protected. The net effect of a booster is good, but not as huge as the primary series. Also, the risk of COVID is lower in the vaccinated. So it’s not as important that everyone run for the booster nowadays, although people would be smart to!
I have zero issue with any corporate mandate — it’s private organization and they can make any rules they want that don’t violate employment law. My libertarian ideals are strong.
Chokervic cried like a baby and blasted antivaxx talking points all over the media for months. That killed people. Your king, is a killer.
“Here. Take this shot. It’s a net positive.”
For a physician, you have a terrible bedside manner. 😂 You may need to work on that delivery.
I appreciate your honesty in saying you don’t have anything relative to say other than your vague expertise. It’s been a fun ride. I humbly accept your resignation in this trivial matter. It takes a real man to admit when they've run out of options. Godspeed in any other arguments you have to make here. But I’m gracious that you finally admitted any arguments you have regarding Novak are just based on your feelings. Good luck kid.
It’s all you’ve got too :)
you: he won before
me: but now he lost
A real clash of titans. But at least I’m not a blowhard who pretends he was paid by the word.
I’m sorry, you lost this one kid. I appreciate the earnest effort. I do. But at this point you’re not even defending yourself. A markedly difference response. You ran a silly gambit with a stupid stance and made yourself a fool. Again, good luck.
Let me correct you here before you get started on this rant.
Omicron ended the pandemic - something the vaccines failed to do. Even you agreed on this earlier.
But remember, it only ended the pandemic for the vaccinated, not the rest of us😂
That’s right.
Imagine the mind that comes up with these things. He wasted his time being a physician/ATP pro/immunologist, virologist/celebrity chef/game show host/doctor/lawyer/Indian Chief. The things he could have accomplished. 😂
I actually didn’t say they were necessary. I said the opposite. I think they’re a net positive for any individual for which they’re recommended, but all vaxxed people are already well protected. The net effect of a booster is good, but not as huge as the primary series. Also, the risk of COVID is lower in the vaccinated. So it’s not as important that everyone run for the booster nowadays, although people would be smart to!
I have zero issue with any corporate mandate — it’s private organization and they can make any rules they want that don’t violate employment law. My libertarian ideals are strong.
Chokervic cried like a baby and blasted antivaxx talking points all over the media for months. That killed people. Your king, is a killer.
But you have lots of issues with anyone wanting agency in their healthcare decisions, undermining your purported, pretend libertarian ideals. You’re more of a communist/socialist.
Oh, all unvaxxed but naturally immune people aren’t well protected I guess? That’s funny, and only true in your fascist monolithic world.
Absolutely not. There was a time when the few government mandates were important for stopping spread (pre Omicron and escape). Simple non aggression principle application.
Corporate mandates are obviously fine because private individuals can enter nearly any employment agreement they want.
Allowing private individuals and corporations to set rules for their employees is libertarian. Demanding that private corps be forced to employ unvaxxed morons is LITERAL communism fasicsm and anarchy.
A real clash of titans. But at least I’m not a blowhard who pretends he was paid by the word.
I’m sorry, you lost this one kid. I appreciate the earnest effort. I do. But at this point you’re not even defending yourself. A markedly difference response. You ran a silly gambit with a stupid stance and made yourself a fool. Again, good luck.
Good job breaking him down. Because I remember vividly that he was stating as fact, not opinion, that Djokovic had long Covid. Either way, it’s a stupid argument for anyone with a brain.