This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
Also, you’re correct that it’s absolutely the case that Nadal hasn’t been the same since his Covid vaccine series. Spurious correlation? Never thought I’d see Nadal retire before Djokovic, yet he’s on the cusp of being forced to. Probably one more French Open, then done. Not on his terms.
Djokovic will win a couple more to flip the bird to the Covid authoritarians, then call it.
Unless he’s getting the new latest and greatest version every four months, he is an anti-vaxxer. I mean, c’mon, these guys’ favorite data point got 217, and they trot it out like it’s something to be proud of🤦♂️
Precisely, lol. You think Hatambro has long vax too?
So you guys just admit you are mindless trolls... fair.
I will still fight the good fight against psychopathic misinformation.
Do you think anyone should’ve had agency in their personal decision to get vaccinated or not vaccinated, particularly outside of the highest risk groups? Like Djokovic?
Also, you’re correct that it’s absolutely the case that Nadal hasn’t been the same since his Covid vaccine series. Spurious correlation? Never thought I’d see Nadal retire before Djokovic, yet he’s on the cusp of being forced to. Probably one more French Open, then done. Not on his terms.
Djokovic will win a couple more to flip the bird to the Covid authoritarians, then call it.
So Chokervic will retire soon? Wow, I even I wouldn't even go that far. You've really taken my concerns to heart.
So you guys just admit you are mindless trolls... fair.
I will still fight the good fight against psychopathic misinformation.
Do you think anyone should’ve had agency in their personal decision to get vaccinated or not vaccinated, particularly outside of the highest risk groups? Like Djokovic?
The vast majority of people had 100% agency. Not getting vaccinated in 2021 was extremely asocial, greatly increased the risk of personal harm, and demonstrated poor quantitative reasoning.
Being a public figure and crying about the vaccine is much, much worse. Borderline murderous because they helped spread propaganda that killed 300k+ Americans.
Also, you’re correct that it’s absolutely the case that Nadal hasn’t been the same since his Covid vaccine series. Spurious correlation? Never thought I’d see Nadal retire before Djokovic, yet he’s on the cusp of being forced to. Probably one more French Open, then done. Not on his terms.
Djokovic will win a couple more to flip the bird to the Covid authoritarians, then call it.
So Chokervic will retire soon? Wow, I even I wouldn't even go that far. You've really taken my concerns to heart.
You really think Djokovic is going to play into his 40s? That would be unheard of. But, we’ll just call it “long COVID,” even after he makes another, record slam final.
Thats very easy to do when you’re dishonest and refuse to engage head on. For example, I’ll say tell me three specific metric points that allow you to emphatically state Novak suffers from long covid and how it has materially impacted his playing abilities.
1) I can tell watching him that he’s slower
2) I can tell watching him that he makes worse decisions
3) he lost his most recent match
1) trust me
2) trust me
3) he lost a match like he has 214 other times before
This is how a dishonest person argues. You’ve literally said nothing. Try harder
Do you think anyone should’ve had agency in their personal decision to get vaccinated or not vaccinated, particularly outside of the highest risk groups? Like Djokovic?
The vast majority of people had 100% agency. Not getting vaccinated in 2021 was extremely asocial, greatly increased the risk of personal harm, and demonstrated poor quantitative reasoning.
Being a public figure and crying about the vaccine is much, much worse. Borderline murderous because they helped spread propaganda that killed 300k+ Americans.
Incorrect. Not once did he say the vaccine was ineffective, dangerous, or that nobody else should get it. He simply chose another path and then pointed to the hypocritical arbitrariness of the authoritarian’s constantly moving targets.
2) I can tell watching him that he makes worse decisions
3) he lost his most recent match
1) trust me
2) trust me
3) he lost a match like he has 214 other times before
This is how a dishonest person argues. You’ve literally said nothing. Try harder
Yes, he’s very dishonest. Plus he’s bragging about a clown who got 217 shots as a paragon of safety and effectiveness of the vaccine but refuses to get his new booster every four months. Very dishonest.
The vast majority of people had 100% agency. Not getting vaccinated in 2021 was extremely asocial, greatly increased the risk of personal harm, and demonstrated poor quantitative reasoning.
Being a public figure and crying about the vaccine is much, much worse. Borderline murderous because they helped spread propaganda that killed 300k+ Americans.
Incorrect. Not once did he say the vaccine was ineffective, dangerous, or that nobody else should get it. He simply chose another path and then pointed to the hypocritical arbitrariness of the authoritarian’s constantly moving targets.
3) he lost a match like he has 214 other times before
This is how a dishonest person argues. You’ve literally said nothing. Try harder
Yes, he’s very dishonest. Plus he’s bragging about a clown who got 217 shots as a paragon of safety and effectiveness of the vaccine but refuses to get his new booster every four months. Very dishonest.
3) he lost a match like he has 214 other times before
This is how a dishonest person argues. You’ve literally said nothing. Try harder
Yes, he’s very dishonest. Plus he’s bragging about a clown who got 217 shots as a paragon of safety and effectiveness of the vaccine but refuses to get his new booster every four months. Very dishonest.
Also, Djokovic is the odds on favorite to win BNP Paribas. I would personally take the field here, but nobody told the sportsbooks that Djokovic had long Covid. Very curious indeed.
Incorrect. Not once did he say the vaccine was ineffective, dangerous, or that nobody else should get it. He simply chose another path and then pointed to the hypocritical arbitrariness of the authoritarian’s constantly moving targets.
So he's simply stupid? Compelling!
Actually he’s very smart, but why do you care? He masked, he tested, he wasn’t injurious to anyone.
Also, you’re correct that it’s absolutely the case that Nadal hasn’t been the same since his Covid vaccine series. Spurious correlation? Never thought I’d see Nadal retire before Djokovic, yet he’s on the cusp of being forced to. Probably one more French Open, then done. Not on his terms.
Djokovic will win a couple more to flip the bird to the Covid authoritarians, then call it.
Yep. Fed too.
It all came so quickly. On top of the world one minute and then lierally shot down.
Yes, he’s very dishonest. Plus he’s bragging about a clown who got 217 shots as a paragon of safety and effectiveness of the vaccine but refuses to get his new booster every four months. Very dishonest.