This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
Lol. You don’t take me seriously but you keep responding. It’s hilarious. Nobody is begging you for anything. Everyone knows who you are. Everyone here has seen what a fraud you are. You put it all out there with your “intellectually rigorous” assessment of Djokovic. No dishonesty there, lol.
Nothing is inflated here but your ego. These stories are real. They are collateral damage and you don’t care. We get it. It sucks, but there are many people in the world like you, people who would mislead about what has happened in the wake of this pandemic. Your mom must be proud she raised such a pathological personality.
Of course, you're in my domain. I must protect it from all threats.
Congrats on your 'real stories.' Now go get some data to support it or you're just babbling.
Says the babbler with one data point on Djokovic and not a very good one, as it’s not an historical outlier. The intellectual rigor is incredible!
Of course, you're in my domain. I must protect it from all threats.
Congrats on your 'real stories.' Now go get some data to support it or you're just babbling.
Says the babbler with one data point on Djokovic and not a very good one, as it’s not an historical outlier. The intellectual rigor is incredible!
My opinion is just that. And it's held up so far. I have merely claimed Chokervic looks like he has long COVID and he hasn't won since. I am not telling you or anyone else what to do.
You, on the other hand, are trying to claim the vaccine is harmful for many, many people and actively trying to convince people not to take it. Your goal is not to examine the performance of a public figure, but to spread antivaxx sentiment.
Says the babbler with one data point on Djokovic and not a very good one, as it’s not an historical outlier. The intellectual rigor is incredible!
My opinion is just that. And it's held up so far. I have merely claimed Chokervic looks like he has long COVID and he hasn't won since. I am not telling you or anyone else what to do.
You, on the other hand, are trying to claim the vaccine is harmful for many, many people and actively trying to convince people not to take it. Your goal is not to examine the performance of a public figure, but to spread antivaxx sentiment.
The differences are clear.
“Wanjiru would’ve been better than Kipchoge”
vs.
”Running marathons is bad for for joints, don’t do it”
My opinion is just that. And it's held up so far. I have merely claimed Chokervic looks like he has long COVID and he hasn't won since. I am not telling you or anyone else what to do.
You, on the other hand, are trying to claim the vaccine is harmful for many, many people and actively trying to convince people not to take it. Your goal is not to examine the performance of a public figure, but to spread antivaxx sentiment.
The differences are clear.
“Wanjiru would’ve been better than Kipchoge”
vs.
”Running marathons is bad for for joints, don’t do it”
”Running marathons is bad for for joints, don’t do it”
Brilliant analogy
Yes, you are better than anyone else at complementing yourself🙄🤦♂️
More like “Galen Rupp definitely has long Covid. He had an awful trials race the day after I diagnosed this. That’s my evidence.”
vs.
You can run 180 miles per week if you want to. But you might get sick or injured, and you can probably get to the same place with slightly more speed on 90 miles per week.
Says the babbler with one data point on Djokovic and not a very good one, as it’s not an historical outlier. The intellectual rigor is incredible!
My opinion is just that. And it's held up so far. I have merely claimed Chokervic looks like he has long COVID and he hasn't won since. I am not telling you or anyone else what to do.
You, on the other hand, are trying to claim the vaccine is harmful for many, many people and actively trying to convince people not to take it. Your goal is not to examine the performance of a public figure, but to spread antivaxx sentiment.
The differences are clear.
Except that you stated it as fact and repeated it over and over, arguing with anyone saying you don’t have all the facts.
I’m not trying to convince anyone of anything. I’m saying that the vaccine WAS harmful for many, many people. What people do now is beside the point, as you yourself have said, and I agree, that the vaccine probably isn’t necessary now except in all the highest risk groups.
My point, all along, is that people should have had agency in the decision and not been coerced to merely acquiesce to the dogma of monolithic scientific agencies, the very ones that you are going to bat for. The ones which put pressure on corporate America to toe the line.
Yes, you are better than anyone else at complementing yourself🙄🤦♂️
More like “Galen Rupp definitely has long Covid. He had an awful trials race the day after I diagnosed this. That’s my evidence.”
vs.
You can run 180 miles per week if you want to. But you might get sick or injured, and you can probably get to the same place with slightly more speed on 90 miles per week.
Ok, well those are still two very different classes of arguments/opinions. Which is the crux of my argument. We will, of course, interpret the possible morality of the second class differently, but at least we acknowledge that what I am saying is quite different from what you are saying.
My opinion is just that. And it's held up so far. I have merely claimed Chokervic looks like he has long COVID and he hasn't won since. I am not telling you or anyone else what to do.
You, on the other hand, are trying to claim the vaccine is harmful for many, many people and actively trying to convince people not to take it. Your goal is not to examine the performance of a public figure, but to spread antivaxx sentiment.
The differences are clear.
Except that you stated it as fact and repeated it over and over, arguing with anyone saying you don’t have all the facts.
I’m not trying to convince anyone of anything. I’m saying that the vaccine WAS harmful for many, many people. What people do now is beside the point, as you yourself have said, and I agree, that the vaccine probably isn’t necessary now except in all the highest risk groups.
My point, all along, is that people should have had agency in the decision and not been coerced to merely acquiesce to the dogma of monolithic scientific agencies, the very ones that you are going to bat for. The ones which put pressure on corporate America to toe the line.
I am stating an opinion about a person – Chokervic – for which we have very little information. Debates will basically boil down to 'yuh-uh' vs. 'nuh-uh.' That's often the case for narrow opinions.
You, on the other hand are making a much, much more broad claim of which there is significant supporting data. You are saying "that the vaccine WAS harmful for many, many people." That is the most important point of your argument and there are zero quality sources to support that. In fact, there are dozens of rigorous studies showing the opposite of that claim you are making. It would be equivalent to say, Chokervic releasing 5 independent blood, immune, and athletic performance panels all run multiple times over the last year showing no changes – and I still make the argument I am making.
Except that you stated it as fact and repeated it over and over, arguing with anyone saying you don’t have all the facts.
I’m not trying to convince anyone of anything. I’m saying that the vaccine WAS harmful for many, many people. What people do now is beside the point, as you yourself have said, and I agree, that the vaccine probably isn’t necessary now except in all the highest risk groups.
My point, all along, is that people should have had agency in the decision and not been coerced to merely acquiesce to the dogma of monolithic scientific agencies, the very ones that you are going to bat for. The ones which put pressure on corporate America to toe the line.
I am stating an opinion about a person – Chokervic – for which we have very little information. Debates will basically boil down to 'yuh-uh' vs. 'nuh-uh.' That's often the case for narrow opinions.
You, on the other hand are making a much, much more broad claim of which there is significant supporting data. You are saying "that the vaccine WAS harmful for many, many people." That is the most important point of your argument and there are zero quality sources to support that. In fact, there are dozens of rigorous studies showing the opposite of that claim you are making. It would be equivalent to say, Chokervic releasing 5 independent blood, immune, and athletic performance panels all run multiple times over the last year showing no changes – and I still make the argument I am making.
Might as well add "epistemology expert" to your list of credentials.
Except that you stated it as fact and repeated it over and over, arguing with anyone saying you don’t have all the facts.
I’m not trying to convince anyone of anything. I’m saying that the vaccine WAS harmful for many, many people. What people do now is beside the point, as you yourself have said, and I agree, that the vaccine probably isn’t necessary now except in all the highest risk groups.
My point, all along, is that people should have had agency in the decision and not been coerced to merely acquiesce to the dogma of monolithic scientific agencies, the very ones that you are going to bat for. The ones which put pressure on corporate America to toe the line.
I am stating an opinion about a person – Chokervic – for which we have very little information. Debates will basically boil down to 'yuh-uh' vs. 'nuh-uh.' That's often the case for narrow opinions.
You, on the other hand are making a much, much more broad claim of which there is significant supporting data. You are saying "that the vaccine WAS harmful for many, many people." That is the most important point of your argument and there are zero quality sources to support that. In fact, there are dozens of rigorous studies showing the opposite of that claim you are making. It would be equivalent to say, Chokervic releasing 5 independent blood, immune, and athletic performance panels all run multiple times over the last year showing no changes – and I still make the argument I am making.
I already addressed this. The data is not making its way back to VAERS.
So, you are saying, as you’ve said all along, that people shouldn’t have had agency in the decision, especially low risk people. The data is clear and the agency gets stripped away when they are a “clear and present danger to others.” That is the crux of your argument, and I vehemently disagree.
This is why Djokovic pisses you off so. He exercised said free agency and elected to get natural immunity. Then, when he got said immunity, he had the audacity to argue it was just as good as vaccine immunity (but agreed to still mask and test) before such an opinion was popular and widespread in the scientific community. He didn’t adhere to your monolithic society. I admire him for it.
Also, your lack of information in the debate on Djokovic, while a new and stark admission from you, is also a lie. Dude won many slams well after he got Covid. Three of four in 2023. 50-7 total record last year. One of the greatest years by one of the best players ever. Long Covid is not his issue.
Except that you stated it as fact and repeated it over and over, arguing with anyone saying you don’t have all the facts.
I’m not trying to convince anyone of anything. I’m saying that the vaccine WAS harmful for many, many people. What people do now is beside the point, as you yourself have said, and I agree, that the vaccine probably isn’t necessary now except in all the highest risk groups.
My point, all along, is that people should have had agency in the decision and not been coerced to merely acquiesce to the dogma of monolithic scientific agencies, the very ones that you are going to bat for. The ones which put pressure on corporate America to toe the line.
I am stating an opinion about a person – Chokervic – for which we have very little information. Debates will basically boil down to 'yuh-uh' vs. 'nuh-uh.' That's often the case for narrow opinions.
You, on the other hand are making a much, much more broad claim of which there is significant supporting data. You are saying "that the vaccine WAS harmful for many, many people." That is the most important point of your argument and there are zero quality sources to support that. In fact, there are dozens of rigorous studies showing the opposite of that claim you are making. It would be equivalent to say, Chokervic releasing 5 independent blood, immune, and athletic performance panels all run multiple times over the last year showing no changes – and I still make the argument I am making.
You have very little information on Novak’s track record in tournaments?
I am stating an opinion about a person – Chokervic – for which we have very little information. Debates will basically boil down to 'yuh-uh' vs. 'nuh-uh.' That's often the case for narrow opinions.
You, on the other hand are making a much, much more broad claim of which there is significant supporting data. You are saying "that the vaccine WAS harmful for many, many people." That is the most important point of your argument and there are zero quality sources to support that. In fact, there are dozens of rigorous studies showing the opposite of that claim you are making. It would be equivalent to say, Chokervic releasing 5 independent blood, immune, and athletic performance panels all run multiple times over the last year showing no changes – and I still make the argument I am making.
I already addressed this. The data is not making its way back to VAERS.
So, you are saying, as you’ve said all along, that people shouldn’t have had agency in the decision, especially low risk people. The data is clear and the agency gets stripped away when they are a “clear and present danger to others.” That is the crux of your argument, and I vehemently disagree.
Nothing you said here is in response to anything Harambe said.
I am stating an opinion about a person – Chokervic – for which we have very little information. Debates will basically boil down to 'yuh-uh' vs. 'nuh-uh.' That's often the case for narrow opinions.
You, on the other hand are making a much, much more broad claim of which there is significant supporting data. You are saying "that the vaccine WAS harmful for many, many people." That is the most important point of your argument and there are zero quality sources to support that. In fact, there are dozens of rigorous studies showing the opposite of that claim you are making. It would be equivalent to say, Chokervic releasing 5 independent blood, immune, and athletic performance panels all run multiple times over the last year showing no changes – and I still make the argument I am making.
I already addressed this. The data is not making its way back to VAERS.
So, you are saying, as you’ve said all along, that people shouldn’t have had agency in the decision, especially low risk people. The data is clear and the agency gets stripped away when they are a “clear and present danger to others.” That is the crux of your argument, and I vehemently disagree.
This is why Djokovic pisses you off so. He exercised said free agency and elected to get natural immunity. Then, when he got said immunity, he had the audacity to argue it was just as good as vaccine immunity (but agreed to still mask and test) before such an opinion was popular and widespread in the scientific community. He didn’t adhere to your monolithic society. I admire him for it.
Also, your lack of information in the debate on Djokovic, while a new and stark admission from you, is also a lie. Dude won many slams well after he got Covid. Three of four in 2023. 50-7 total record last year. One of the greatest years by one of the best players ever. Long Covid is not his issue.
This is simply an excuse for why you have no data. It’s essentially an admission that you have “jack squat.” Even less than I have to back up my personal opinion about Chokervic.
“The data exist they’re just hidden / not being compiled” = the data does not exist.
I am stating an opinion about a person – Chokervic – for which we have very little information. Debates will basically boil down to 'yuh-uh' vs. 'nuh-uh.' That's often the case for narrow opinions.
You, on the other hand are making a much, much more broad claim of which there is significant supporting data. You are saying "that the vaccine WAS harmful for many, many people." That is the most important point of your argument and there are zero quality sources to support that. In fact, there are dozens of rigorous studies showing the opposite of that claim you are making. It would be equivalent to say, Chokervic releasing 5 independent blood, immune, and athletic performance panels all run multiple times over the last year showing no changes – and I still make the argument I am making.
Might as well add "epistemology expert" to your list of credentials.
I am stating an opinion about a person – Chokervic – for which we have very little information. Debates will basically boil down to 'yuh-uh' vs. 'nuh-uh.' That's often the case for narrow opinions.
You, on the other hand are making a much, much more broad claim of which there is significant supporting data. You are saying "that the vaccine WAS harmful for many, many people." That is the most important point of your argument and there are zero quality sources to support that. In fact, there are dozens of rigorous studies showing the opposite of that claim you are making. It would be equivalent to say, Chokervic releasing 5 independent blood, immune, and athletic performance panels all run multiple times over the last year showing no changes – and I still make the argument I am making.
You have very little information on Novak’s track record in tournaments?
Since my genius diagnosis the sample size is small
you can get 217 COVID vaccines and be totally fine with durable immunity.
Miracle drugs. Many other pharmaceutical you’d be in trouble if you took 70X the recommended dose.
What would happen if you got vaccinated against the same antigen over and over again? In @TheLancetInfDis, we now report on a hypervaccinated individual from Magdeburg (HIM) who received 217 vaccinations within 29 months against SARS-CoV-2. 👇 1/19 https://t.co/or1gLBFDgk