Hello there wrote:
Only stupid people support Kavanaught wrote:
WRONG. Read what he said, that they deserve to be heard, not that they must be believed.
How stupid can you be, to quote what someone thinks, and then to say that's not what they think.
And then you say they're a liar????
How about you then, who can't read nor understand a straightforward statement.
Hi Flagpole!
Nope. Not me.
WEJO, DO AN IP CHECK, AND IF I LIE, BAN ME FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Flagpole wrote:
Someone sure leaked it. I hope we find out who did it too, and if the Democrats did so, not only should they suffer the political ramifications of that, I think Dr. Ford should be able to sue for monetary damages, and I believe she is entitled to a LOT.
Fair is fair, and this is further evidence that I am not partisan and believe that all people, no matter party, should be held accountable.
Blasey Ford had early on sent documents to a newspaper, I think the Washington post, and reporters eventually showed up at her home, and her classroom. Also she had been sharing her experience with friends and associates. It was the reporters who kept showing up that convinced her to no longer keep her story confidential.
It was not some giant conspiracy by Democrats, but was just a natural progression of her sharing the experience.
In fact, Kavanaugh and his friends knew about her story before it become public, probably before the rest of the Democrats did besides Feinstein.
Flagpole wrote:
You post an opinion article by Alan Dershowitz, the man that Avenatti schooled on television about attorney-client privilege (later to be proven correct)? Many legal experts have said that Dershowitz is now out of his depth, he's a staunch defender of Trump and all things Trump due to Trump's position on Israel.
All we can do is wait which is what I said before. I even said we will have to see if his client and the witnesses are credible. I have every reason to believe they are based on his performance over the last year (Cohen's original lawyer telling Avenatti that he would lose, and then we see ultimately Cohen plead to two felony counts of campaign finance violation and finger Trump as the one who told him to do it...if Trump weren't the President, he would be indicted right now, and it's possible that indictment is waiting for him when he's out of office, depending on statutes of limitations). So...burden of proof is on Avenatti...ok...of course it is...that's how it goes with legal cases.
Avenatti said stuff is coming this weekend. We shall see how damning it is.
I have every reason to believe they are...
I have every reason to believe that you said this.
Trump2020OP-the real one... wrote:
The actions of today's Democrats and their cohorts in the media are making Joseph Stalin smile from his grave.
Judge not lest ye be Judged.
M.A.G.A.
S.O.W.P.
I.B.B.K.
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Tell us about your connection with white power.
Some woman now claiming Kavanaugh pulled on her pig tail in kindergarten. She now needs backup front and back doors, and bars on her windows
Some other kindergartener witnessed it. Might have been Mark Judge
Here's just one wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
You post an opinion article by Alan Dershowitz, the man that Avenatti schooled on television about attorney-client privilege (later to be proven correct)? Many legal experts have said that Dershowitz is now out of his depth, he's a staunch defender of Trump and all things Trump due to Trump's position on Israel.
All we can do is wait which is what I said before. I even said we will have to see if his client and the witnesses are credible. I have every reason to believe they are based on his performance over the last year (Cohen's original lawyer telling Avenatti that he would lose, and then we see ultimately Cohen plead to two felony counts of campaign finance violation and finger Trump as the one who told him to do it...if Trump weren't the President, he would be indicted right now, and it's possible that indictment is waiting for him when he's out of office, depending on statutes of limitations). So...burden of proof is on Avenatti...ok...of course it is...that's how it goes with legal cases.
Avenatti said stuff is coming this weekend. We shall see how damning it is.
I have every reason to believe they are...
I have every reason to believe that you said this.
In true Flagpolian fashion, it didn't take long for him to get proven wrong, again.
Not you again wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
So sorry it is not looking good for you. Get your quiltie and blankie ready for your safe space.
I was hoping you wouldn't be back.
No worries. A week from now Kavanaugh will be on the SCOTUS and this thread will disappear. You will move on to the latest SJW outrage thread most of which I never comment on.
Another allegation wrote:
Some woman now claiming Kavanaugh pulled on her pig tail in kindergarten. She now needs backup front and back doors, and bars on her windows
Some other kindergartener witnessed it. Might have been Mark Judge
Was Kavanaugh drunk when he did it?
joedirt wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
So, in the last day, we have found out:
1) Kavanaugh was involved in a bar fight while drunk while a student at Yale.
Again, ooohh. I don't think you will find anyone in either the senate, the courts or the house who didn't drink in college. No charges were filed and nobody has said if he threw any punches only beer. This is another non-story.
2) New former classmate at Yale says Kavanaugh was a stumbling drunk and basically lied to the Senate Committee about his level of drinking.
Again he never expressly said he didn't drink a lot, in fact he said the opposite, he said he drank a lot of beer and that he likes beer. He said he never blacked out from drinking (please provide evidence that proves he blacked out, people have said they thought he would have blacked out, but that is not something they can know). Most of the time he deflected answers to his sealed testimony that they already had or talked about how well he did in school, but he was careful not to perjure himself.
3) There is apparently some evidence in the form of text messages, that Kavanaugh knew about the Ramirez accusation before it became public. This is important because he testified under oath that he found out when everyone else did...when it was published.
He may not have formally known until the accusation became public. What likely happened is he heard rumor / hearsay that Ramirez was calling old classmates fishing for a story. When the accuser has admitted to gaps in her own memory and had to call a dozen classmates to create her memory (none of whom have stepped forward to corroborate it), it is without merit. It would never get anywhere near a court.
4) Julie Swetnick's lawyer Michael Avenatti has announced that he has a witness who will testify that he or she (unnamed so far) saw Kavanaugh and Mark Judge spike punch with grain alcohol and Quaaludes.
So this witness saw these two spike punch, but said nothing? How was he certain they put Quaaludes in the punch (impossible to know that)? Swetnick's background is not reliable, even her own father hasn't talked to her in 10 years. Her credibility is sorely lacking.
He sounds like a Prince (No disrespect intended to the greatest guitarist of the last 30 years, the late, great Prince).
All anyone has is a bunch of uncorroborated allegations and some old classmates who state he might have drank more than he let on. They have nothing. No evidence, a number of witnesses who actually refute the allegations, and a 25 year career that people can't poke a single hole in.
At least with Bill Clinton's scandals people were just concerned about things he did while in political office (people made jokes about his not inhaling while in college). Going back to high school and college is shameful. Please share with us about everything you ever did in high school or college. Any awkward sexual experiences, any time you ever had too much to drink, any time you got into a fight, etc. If you go all the way back to high school or college on 90% of the population, you are going to find some dirt. The very reason why juvenile offenders are treated differently than adults is because people are still learning how to conduct their lives. What nobody can call into question is his record serving as a judge.
Well first of all, I'm not trying to be appointed to the Supreme Court.
I will answer your other questions and respond to your statements:
1) In high school and college, I politely said "no" to the girls/women who wanted a piece of Flagpole before getting to know me first. I also ran a lot and studied and went out with my girlfriend, now wife, to movies and such.
2) I've been drunk 5 times in my life. All of them where when I was of legal drinking age (19 at the time in Ohio when I was in college). 4 of those were in college, and one accidentally when I was in my mid 20s...at a party at my brother's house and he had some beer there that had wine-level alcohol that I wasn't aware of until I had 2...that was it for me then as I have never been a big drinker. Of the 4 times in college, 2 of them were with my girlfriend, now wife, and the other two were at parties where she and I were together.
3) Flagpole is a lover, not a fighter, so no fights for me. A look at my HUGE biceps usually makes people step off.
4) 17 year olds are often prosecuted as adults for sexual crimes. Also, Kavanaugh was in college for one of the allegations.
5) Some dirt on 90% of people? Maybe, but not sexual assault and rape and drugging people. 90% of people have NOT done anything like that.
6) The main reason we can't call into question his time as a judge is because the Republicans have withheld about 90% of the documents from being available to the Senate.
Here's just one wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
You post an opinion article by Alan Dershowitz, the man that Avenatti schooled on television about attorney-client privilege (later to be proven correct)? Many legal experts have said that Dershowitz is now out of his depth, he's a staunch defender of Trump and all things Trump due to Trump's position on Israel.
All we can do is wait which is what I said before. I even said we will have to see if his client and the witnesses are credible. I have every reason to believe they are based on his performance over the last year (Cohen's original lawyer telling Avenatti that he would lose, and then we see ultimately Cohen plead to two felony counts of campaign finance violation and finger Trump as the one who told him to do it...if Trump weren't the President, he would be indicted right now, and it's possible that indictment is waiting for him when he's out of office, depending on statutes of limitations). So...burden of proof is on Avenatti...ok...of course it is...that's how it goes with legal cases.
Avenatti said stuff is coming this weekend. We shall see how damning it is.
I have every reason to believe they are...
I have every reason to believe that you said this.
"I have reason to believe" is not the same as "I believe". It just means he was considering some inculpatory facts.
Here's just one wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
You post an opinion article by Alan Dershowitz, the man that Avenatti schooled on television about attorney-client privilege (later to be proven correct)? Many legal experts have said that Dershowitz is now out of his depth, he's a staunch defender of Trump and all things Trump due to Trump's position on Israel.
All we can do is wait which is what I said before. I even said we will have to see if his client and the witnesses are credible. I have every reason to believe they are based on his performance over the last year (Cohen's original lawyer telling Avenatti that he would lose, and then we see ultimately Cohen plead to two felony counts of campaign finance violation and finger Trump as the one who told him to do it...if Trump weren't the President, he would be indicted right now, and it's possible that indictment is waiting for him when he's out of office, depending on statutes of limitations). So...burden of proof is on Avenatti...ok...of course it is...that's how it goes with legal cases.
Avenatti said stuff is coming this weekend. We shall see how damning it is.
I have every reason to believe they are...
I have every reason to believe that you said this.
Challenge accepted. :)
Fat hurts wrote:
Here's just one wrote:
I have every reason to believe they are...
I have every reason to believe that you said this.
"I have reason to believe" is not the same as "I believe". It just means he was considering some inculpatory facts.
ok flaggy. but that's not what u said.
Mo's Tavern wrote:
Another allegation wrote:
Some woman now claiming Kavanaugh pulled on her pig tail in kindergarten. She now needs backup front and back doors, and bars on her windows
Some other kindergartener witnessed it. Might have been Mark Judge
Was Kavanaugh drunk when he did it?
No, that was Trump.....
Trump was described as falling into the crowd of boys "who pulled girls' hair, passed notes, and talked out of turn," The Washington Post reports. In fact, Trump ended up in detention so often that his friends nicknamed the punishment "D.T." — his initials.
In his neighborhood, Donald and his friends were known to ride their bikes and "shout and curse very loudly," said Steve Nachtigall, who lived nearby. Nachtigall said he once saw them jump off their bikes and beat up another boy.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/young-donald-trump-military-school/2016/06/22/f0b3b164-317c-11e6-8758-d58e76e11b12_story.htmlMo's Tavern wrote:
Another allegation wrote:
Some woman now claiming Kavanaugh pulled on her pig tail in kindergarten. She now needs backup front and back doors, and bars on her windows
Some other kindergartener witnessed it. Might have been Mark Judge
Was Kavanaugh drunk when he did it?
No, but he had been sniffing glue and permanent markers while Mark Judge was putting bath salts in the Juice Boxes.
The tide is turning against Kavanaugh. He's not going to make it.
Flagpole wrote:
Flagpole is an idiot. wrote:
File charges? Against who? She's not claiming that Kavanaugh himself raped her. And not a single person has said they even know who she is. As others have said, who the f keeps going to parties when you know there supposed gang rapes going on? That's ludicrous.
As I have already said, you people who say this have not read enough or listened top Avenatti enough to know what you're talking about. For one, she said she was at about 10 parties where Kavanaugh and Judge were present. Not all of those had boys lined up outside a bedroom. He said she was a bit naive and didn't realize what was going on in those bedrooms until it happened to her...THAT is when she put it together. They have said they have corroborating witnesses. We will see if anything comes of it, but Avenatti hasn't bluffed or lied about anything so far that we know of. I have no reason to dispute him now.
To simply dismiss it because it sounds outrageous is misguided.
What about this young couple lately where the dude is a doctor and he and his girlfriend have drugged and raped perhaps up to 100 women and taken thousands of videos...and the two of them aren't even that young, so they have been busy. Seems insane that two people, especially a man and a woman, could get together to do that and to that degree.
There are a LOT of naive people out there, in high school, in college and beyond. Don't dismiss it just because it sounds crazy. We will see if Avenatti has the facts. I say he does and will show his cards.
I believe!!!! wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
As I have already said, you people who say this have not read enough or listened top Avenatti enough to know what you're talking about. For one, she said she was at about 10 parties where Kavanaugh and Judge were present. Not all of those had boys lined up outside a bedroom. He said she was a bit naive and didn't realize what was going on in those bedrooms until it happened to her...THAT is when she put it together. They have said they have corroborating witnesses. We will see if anything comes of it, but Avenatti hasn't bluffed or lied about anything so far that we know of. I have no reason to dispute him now.
To simply dismiss it because it sounds outrageous is misguided.
What about this young couple lately where the dude is a doctor and he and his girlfriend have drugged and raped perhaps up to 100 women and taken thousands of videos...and the two of them aren't even that young, so they have been busy. Seems insane that two people, especially a man and a woman, could get together to do that and to that degree.
There are a LOT of naive people out there, in high school, in college and beyond. Don't dismiss it just because it sounds crazy. We will see if Avenatti has the facts. I say he does and will show his cards.
"There are a LOT of naive people out there"
How phophetic.
Do Not Even wrote:
The tide is turning against Kavanaugh. He's not going to make it.
Ha, ha, ha, ha......
https://mobile.twitter.com/TomCottonAR/status/1045431180752023554?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.foxnews.com%2Fpolitics%2Fkavanaugh-clash-reopens-stolen-valor-allegations-against-sen-blumenthalDo Not Even wrote:
The tide is turning against Kavanaugh. He's not going to make it.
It is a post tsunami riptide.