This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
Michelle Flower, from Sheffield, says she had a rare adverse reaction to having a Pfizer Covid booster in January that led to her "ageing 20 years in just three days"
All the 'smart' antivaxxers have given up. The Omicron wave proved to them that
1) The vaccine works very, very well (especially against severe disease and the health care usage that comes with it)
2) The vaccine is very safe
3) The vaccine will likely remain highly effective against many future strains (given the distance between the vaccine-encoded strain and Omicron).
Antivaxxers have nothing to to but repost debunked claims and cry, and even the most ardent are giving up – way less vaccine posts on the front page than there used it.
In January this year in England 92% of alleged covid deaths were vaccinated, 8% unvaccinated. That's 7616 vaccinated deaths compared to 668 unvaccinated.
Enough with the carrots already, it's time to beat the anti-VAXXERS with a stick as though they are unwilling donkeys hitched to the cart. I WANT THEM BANNED FROM ALL THINGS, plus we need to evaluate the dates on VAX CARDS to determine just how quickly they jumped in the pool back in 2021, this shall determine their rights and privileges. Let's not take any penalties off the table. Not a lot of time though, we need to do everything we can to punish them now before the next election stops the wind beneath our wings....
When you cannot support your argument with facts, cry for censorship.
Facts:
1. Jab does not prevent transmission of Covid.
2. The current variants are quite mild with next to nobody being truly harmed by Omicron.
3. The jab has killed and harmed far more people than all other vaccines combined in the past 30+ years.
4. Natural immunity is always far better than any vaccine.
Time to educate the people who have fallen for the Big Pharma propaganda.
They are not the enemy. They are scared and misled.
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In January this year in England 92% of alleged covid deaths were vaccinated, 8% unvaccinated. That's 7616 vaccinated deaths compared to 668 unvaccinated.
79% of the population have been vaccinated. What gives?
If you look at the age standardized mortality rates in the table (literally 2 columns over) you'll see unvaccinated people were dying at 5x the rate of ever vaccinated people in Jan 2022.
You need to correct for base rate and Simpson's paradox. I've said this dozens of times.
Vaccines work.
All the UK data supports that the vaccines work extremely well against severe disease.
If you look at the age standardized mortality rates in the table (literally 2 columns over) you'll see unvaccinated people were dying at 5x the rate of ever vaccinated people in Jan 2022.
You need to correct for base rate and Simpson's paradox. I've said this dozens of times.
Vaccines work.
All the UK data supports that the vaccines work extremely well against severe disease.
Ever vaccinated are the people 21 days after booster, so really that means the vaccines last a couple of months at best? Sounds great.
The people who only had 2 doses have a greater age standardized mortality rate than the unvaccinated. Why are double vaxxed more likely to die from covid than the unvaxxed?
In January this year in England 92% of alleged covid deaths were vaccinated, 8% unvaccinated. That's 7616 vaccinated deaths compared to 668 unvaccinated.
Among 625 physicians, 10.1% did not agree that vaccines were safe; 9.3% did not agree that vaccines were effective; and 8.3% did not agree that they were important, Timothy Callaghan, PhD, of Texas A&M School of Public Health in College Station, and colleagues reported online in Vaccine.
The high proportion of hesitancy among primary care doctors "was certainly a surprise for us," Callaghan told MedPage Today. "We thought it might be a very small proportion of physicians who hold hesitancy about vaccines given that we have lots of evidence of the safety and effectiveness of vaccines. However, once we dug into the data, we found that concerns about vaccines in general were far more widespread in the physician population than we might have expected."
Among 625 physicians, 10.1% did not agree that vaccines were safe; 9.3% did not agree that vaccines were effective; and 8.3% did not agree that they were important, Timothy Callaghan, PhD, of Texas A&M School of Public Health in College Station, and colleagues reported online in Vaccine.
The high proportion of hesitancy among primary care doctors "was certainly a surprise for us," Callaghan told MedPage Today. "We thought it might be a very small proportion of physicians who hold hesitancy about vaccines given that we have lots of evidence of the safety and effectiveness of vaccines. However, once we dug into the data, we found that concerns about vaccines in general were far more widespread in the physician population than we might have expected."
If you look at the age standardized mortality rates in the table (literally 2 columns over) you'll see unvaccinated people were dying at 5x the rate of ever vaccinated people in Jan 2022.
You need to correct for base rate and Simpson's paradox. I've said this dozens of times.
Vaccines work.
All the UK data supports that the vaccines work extremely well against severe disease.
Ever vaccinated are the people 21 days after booster, so really that means the vaccines last a couple of months at best? Sounds great.
The people who only had 2 doses have a greater age standardized mortality rate than the unvaccinated. Why are double vaxxed more likely to die from covid than the unvaxxed?
Did you read like 1 percent of his post only? Table 5 shows that regardless of 1, 2, 3 doses or after 21 days or within 21 days of whatever dose, the unvaccinated are dying at a significantly higher rate than the vaccinated are. This is the table for monthly age-standardized mortality rates by age group and vaccination status. Not sure where you are getting the claim that those with 2 doses have a greater mortality rate than the unvaxxed.
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Among 625 physicians, 10.1% did not agree that vaccines were safe; 9.3% did not agree that vaccines were effective; and 8.3% did not agree that they were important, Timothy Callaghan, PhD, of Texas A&M School of Public Health in College Station, and colleagues reported online in Vaccine.
The high proportion of hesitancy among primary care doctors "was certainly a surprise for us," Callaghan told MedPage Today. "We thought it might be a very small proportion of physicians who hold hesitancy about vaccines given that we have lots of evidence of the safety and effectiveness of vaccines. However, once we dug into the data, we found that concerns about vaccines in general were far more widespread in the physician population than we might have expected."
I read this survey and I see two potential problems.
First, this survey was done in the second week of May 2021. A google trends search found that searches for myocarditis were flat until they skyrocketed in late May 2021. In short, this survey was done before we saw a rise in reports of myocarditis as an adverse event. Today, barely a day goes by without a new report from medical professionals that adverse effects are not being reported and, appallingly, these whistleblowers are being harassed, fired, or forced to resign.
Second, I think some physicians are reluctant to voice their true feelings on the vaccine for fear of retaliation... and with good reason. Look at the veiled threats from the author of the paper.
Callaghan noted that... 10% is a pretty big proportion to be hesitant. It suggests, for that 10%, we need to do some work in terms of education and potentially, intervention...
One other curious point. There are only two questions about vaccines in the entire survey. One question is "Thinking about vaccines in general, give your opinion on..." It's an interesting background question, but it's not as pertinent as questions on covid vaccines. There was only one question on covid vaccines! It was "How confident are you that the following Covid-19 vaccines are safe. It then listed Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J. The responses were Very Confident, Confident, Somewhat Confident, and Not at all Confident.
How about a REAL survey?! Include questions like.
- How often have you seen what might have been an adverse event in your patients? Answer would be... Very significant increase, significant increase, a few cases, no increase.
- Have you seen a rise in previously undiagnosed illnesses in your vaccinated patients? Answers would be... a very significant increase, a significant increase, possibly an increase, no increase.
- Have you seen a worsening in pre-existing conditions in your patients after vaccination. Answers would be the same as the above.
All the 'smart' antivaxxers have given up. The Omicron wave proved to them that
1) The vaccine works very, very well (especially against severe disease and the health care usage that comes with it)
2) The vaccine is very safe
3) The vaccine will likely remain highly effective against many future strains (given the distance between the vaccine-encoded strain and Omicron).
Antivaxxers have nothing to to but repost debunked claims and cry, and even the most ardent are giving up – way less vaccine posts on the front page than there used it.