50+ Masters Training and Racing Open Forum

Coyote Montane wrote:

dhaaga

wish we could edit our posts here--this site is 1992

Why is that? I post on a cycling site that has discussion forums involving a wide variety of topics that allows you to edit or even delete the post after you've posted it. Probably unlike most here, I post exclusively from my phone (convenient to post while cross training at the gym, waiting in line, sitting in traffic, etc) which can be a little more difficult particularly if you're typing out a long post.

Though I try to proof read before posting, invariably more times than not there are missing words, misspelled words, inappropriate punctuation, etc. On the cycling forum I mentioned, this happens a lot and I merely click the edit button and make the corrections. Or in some cases, I can completely delete the post and start over.

Curious: Does anyone else post exclusively from their phone? Is this site compatible for use from a phone or is it better structured for laptops? (I've been posted here for about 4 yrs and probably hundreds of posts and not one from my laptop. ?).

Stocky Runner wrote:Curious: Does anyone else post exclusively from their phone? Is this site compatible for use from a phone or is it better structured for laptops? ...

Almost always from my phone. Almost always a typo or two.

Functionally, the phone is fine for posting, but lately it's a struggle to READ the threads. The formatting gets wacky --- variously not fitting on the screen, or a very tiny display, or "overprinting" with layered images. An ad-blocker might help, but I haven't tried that yet.

Strong and fast 10 milers going on here.

My week was

Mo 10x1min on and off, total 7 miles

Tu 1 h drills and jumps uphill

We 7 miles easy, 4x100m accels

Th 10 km steady in 7:40 min/mile

Fr. 7 miles easy, 4x100m accels

Sa 10x30sec with slow jog back, total 7 miles

Su 1:20 h easy hilly

Have a good week, cheers

this site is only readable with adblocker. i do not feel bad using it because the posters in this thread are providing good running related content which is fuel for views.

posting only from tab and phone.

Pretty much only from phone. I do have a laptop but I use it nearly exclusively for photography.

No regular computer access at work.

LR is a disaster to read on the phone as A59 mentioned.

My week.

Well as previously posted Monday was Mt Hotham, Tuesday was Mystic. Then a 3.5 hour drive home.

Wednesday. Back to work. The body was feeling ok but I did no training.

Thursday. 20 laps of Hedley's in the kayak before work. Very windy. 51 mins. I usually hit 47 to 49. Not sure how much was residual fatigue and how much was the wind

Friday. 5 kms on the bike was all. I intended to do a decent ride but the legs had nothing in them. Mowed some of my lawn during the hour I should've been riding then off to work pm shift).

Saturday. Mowing, weeding, brushcutting for about 4 hours. Afternoon mountain bike ride. Blowing a gale but I was moving well. 90 plus minutes at a good pace, 21 kph which is good for me on those forest tracks.

Sunday. Easy 8 km social run 45 mins or so then barefoot on the grass. A planned 2 km of stretching out turned into a lazy 1 km in 5 mins.

Today was my kayak day and it went well enough. The body seems to be pretty ok I will ride tomorrow and do a serious run on Wednesday.

Because of my shiftwork I do my running, riding, paddling at various times. If I am on an am shift I leave home at 5.30. So I train after work on those days. I usually get the session in before arriving home.

I leave about 12 noon for the pm shift so train before work on those days.

Night shift. Leave home at 8 pm and arrive back home 9.30 am. I am too tired to either stop on the way home or go out when I get home. I just get some sleep and head out later in the day.

Racing is back on here. Track started in regional Vic on Saturday. Metro have to wait unti next week.

We have had zero infections for 10 days in Vic. So the "Ring of Steel" came down around metro Melbourne last night allowing City folk to venture out to regional areas. Regional Vic hasn't had any for a few weeks now. Australia wide there we re no community acquired cases today. I think a couple of positives among quarantined returned OS travellers though. Hopefully we will be able to cross State borders in a couple of weeks.

So things are looking up at the moment.

OG11 I seem to recall seeing something about you being a 1 lap specialist in College. No surprise then that you still can turn the legs over quick.

thanks! B & A (baltimore and annapolis) trail. 3/7/21. Very low-key [for reference, I won it outright in 2012 w/ 2:45: xx], well-organized event mostly on rolling bike path. Can get to it easily from my home the morning of the race -- staged at a high school, super-convenient in all respects.

No basis to think it will be held; i'm just trying to be hopeful [although with good news coming out about progress on Pfizer vaccine today.........] --Dave

[quote]amkelley wrote:

dhaaga, congrats on a very nice 10-mile TT. What marathon are you pointing toward that has some chance of occurring?

Guess wrote:

As for me started having left foot problem (metatarsalgia) especially after trying to break in some new shoes. [Saucony type A] no cushioning. Return them.

Sunday 654am Spinning bike for 30min then lifted weights.

Guess, have you tried the Saucony Freedom ISOs? Cushiony but very stable. Absolutely my favorite easy run shoe, though I do swap out for the Kinvaras when I'm looking for a bit more pop.

Question for all, speaking of spinning - does anyone cross-train on a bike stand like the Saris Fluid? I have three bikes and garage space, and for the 20 or so days I can't go out during winter I'd like to have something since I won't be visiting gyms anytime soon.

Saturday's half marathon, which ran on a different route because COVID shut down the usual route, was billed as a 580-foot climb. Try 1,009 feet! That, and a 10-15 mph wind opposing me as I ran the 13th mile (uphill) slowed me quite a bit. My consolation prize, though, is being able to claim a Sesame Street PR:

Congrats on your fence, Mike, that was a great report.

KC,

I ride on a CycleOps (Saris) Magnus smart trainer. I'm connected to Zwift so my coach can upload my workouts and I can ride either with resistance or by just by power. I love it. Before I had the smart trainer I used an inexpensive fluid trainer that worked fine but didn't give any of the metrics that I needed for year-round training. I think a dumb trainer would be fine for the limited amount of riding you anticipate.

I'm a Saucony runner too. I've run in the Freedom's. They did feel cushy but they felt clunky to me. I use Kinvaras for my every day runs and Type As for racing. CM says he likes the Endorphin but I'm not convinced the rocking motion and thick soles will work for me.

Sounds like the HM was an unexpected challenge!

Thanks for the feedback, SCgal. I wanted to endorse your aversion to pain meds (or as runners call them, anti-inflammatories). It's a strategy that pays dividends, because when you finally take them they really work!

KC,

When it's dark, cold, or wet outside, I ride on a Kinetic magnetic trainer in my garage. It's small and fairly light (holds only the rear wheel) and nice and quiet. I think it can be used with various apps but I just use it as a dumb trainer--variable resistance and that's all. It serves my purposes for cross-training.

I bought a Peleton for $2,000 and $60/month to have someone yell at me.

Just kidding....

I have a magnetic resistance trainer I bought maybe 30 years ago. I just set the bike on it. A 20-year-old Cateye wired speedometer gives me "speed", "distance", cadence, elapsed time. The trainer is Univega brand, as I recall. The bike, of course, is a classic steel frame. Italian components. Mid-1990s.

I can get a great workout, but have never managed more than 30 minutes. Not enjoyable at all.

My stepdaughter bought a Peloton. I'm not kidding. In Manhattan she rode a real bike outside a lot. In Los Angeles now, and it's too dangerous.

From what I understand, the NordicTrak version sounds much better -- with hill and road simulation, and visuals of rides from around the world. And virtual racing with real people, right?

Allen1959 wrote:

My stepdaughter bought a Peloton. I'm not kidding. In Manhattan she rode a real bike outside a lot. In Los Angeles now, and it's too dangerous.

I spent the summer of 1978 living in the dorms at UCLA while doing a summer undergraduate research program at the nearby VA hospital. I regularly rode my bike all over Westwood and down to the beach and back via Sunset and Wilshire Blvds. Even in 1978 traffic was horrific and that was a really high liability thing to do, but I escaped unscathed. There's no way I'd have the nerve to ride a bike in a place like that now.

I managed an 11.30 pm rainy night ride on the mtb a few weeks back and don't mind going out after dark or in the rain. A much more enjoyable option that riding on a trainer. It helps that at 11.30 my little town is deathly quiet. Only a few 100 macropods and not a human insight. Also helps that it rarely gets cold here.

amkelley wrote:

Allen1959 wrote:

My stepdaughter bought a Peloton. I'm not kidding. In Manhattan she rode a real bike outside a lot. In Los Angeles now, and it's too dangerous.

I spent the summer of 1978 living in the dorms at UCLA while doing a summer undergraduate research program at the nearby VA hospital. I regularly rode my bike all over Westwood and down to the beach and back via Sunset and Wilshire Blvds. Even in 1978 traffic was horrific and that was a really high liability thing to do, but I escaped unscathed. There's no way I'd have the nerve to ride a bike in a place like that now.

My stomping grounds. Ran San Vicente to the Pier and up to the VA many times from my parents house in Santa Monica Canyon. Wife and I stayed near UCLA for a conference, it took us 45 minutes to drive to the ocean via Sunset. So you would not want to bike that traffic. Personally would not bike Boise. I mentioned before a friend and triathlete that was mowed down by a high driver, and she is paralyzed waist down. This lady was into her sport as much as anyone here.

How terribly sad that that lady was paralyzed by another careless driver, and we have so many more now that everyone has a cellphone that they can't stop staring at while driving.

Have been away a while, still just doing some walk/running, so total miles/week of 40+, with close to half of that being running, but only running 1/6 to 1/2 miles at a time, on the fairly safe roads around our neighborhood. My wife did manage 1.25 miles non-stop yesterday, but her orthotics are about shot and the new ones aren't fitting too well yet.

Have now switched to Medicare plus a Blue Care Advantage supplement, along with getting monthly Soc. Security. Having a coming new administration means that SSA will continue to exist, thankfully. Still working but nice to have a financial grounding and so don't have to worry if COVID puts a clamp on work sometime soon again.

Must get ready for our daily ambulations, stay healthy all! Glad that science will again be emphasized and not disparaged, too!

SCgal wrote:

KC,

I ride on a CycleOps (Saris) Magnus smart trainer. I'm connected to Zwift so my coach can upload my workouts and I can ride either with resistance or by just by power. I love it. Before I had the smart trainer I used an inexpensive fluid trainer that worked fine but didn't give any of the metrics that I needed for year-round training. I think a dumb trainer would be fine for the limited amount of riding you anticipate.

I'm a Saucony runner too. I've run in the Freedom's. They did feel cushy but they felt clunky to me. I use Kinvaras for my every day runs and Type As for racing. CM says he likes the Endorphin but I'm not convinced the rocking motion and thick soles will work for me.

Sounds like the HM was an unexpected challenge!

The Endorphin Pro has been a great workout shoe on the occasions that I have used them, but jury is still out as a race shoe with only two socially distanced 5Ks and a few solo time trials none of which has gone all that great.

That said, I did a session with 5X 1K this morning at Wash Park and averaged 3:45, so found that encouraging.

I've shifted from Asics and Adidas to Saucony, using the Guide for long runs and general endurance, Kinvara for most workouts, and Endorphin Pro for races of 5K and up, plus a workout every couple months as a motivator.

And let me throw the Endorphin Speed onto the pile. I’ve run 5K and 10K PRs in them this fall and recovered nicely afterward. It’s not just the speed but the recovery where the technology helps you out. Or so I’m told. Ran the HMs in the Pros. Freedom’s on recovery days, Kinvaras to feel fast, Type A on the track ... I’m not quite a Saucony stan but give me another year.

AMK, thanks for the kinetic recommendation for a dumb trainer. I like my trainers dumb. Do runners bother with trainer tires? I guess I can start with my road tread and see what happens.