Wagner - a Russian neo-Nazi military group was part of the force that invaded Crimea in February 2014. Do you dispute that Wagner is a bunch of Nazis? Do you dispute that they participated in the invasion of Crimea? No and no? Good. Now we have established that Russian Nazis started the war between Russia and Ukraine.
There was no war in November 2013, despite your repeated asinine claims pretending that there was. But, if you want to claim that November 2013 was what instigated the war, then the July incident - where the Russian military killed four innocent Ukrainians - and the trade war that Russia engaged in against Ukraine show that the events - and violence - leading to war predate November 2013.
Here’s your pine cone. Now, go f*ck yourself.
Wagner is owned by a Jew.
Founded and led by Dmitry Utkin, Nazi tattoos and all.
The fishing boat incident, and simultaneous trade war launched by Russia against Ukraine, were both about Ukraine’s EU aspirations, doofus. But thank you conceding the point that Russian Nazis started the war, whether you count July 2013, February 2014, or February 2022 as the start date.
And again, nobody said the July 2013 incident started the Maidan protests, but thanks for proving that you’re dumber than a pine cone.
Founded and led by Dmitry Utkin, Nazi tattoos and all.
You can't even read.
Founded by Yevgeny Prigozhin.
After years of denying his links to Wagner, he eventually confirmed that he was its founder on 26 September 2022. He stated that he founded it in May 2014, to support Russian forces in the war in Donbas. This admission was prompted by a viral video in which Prigozhin was shown in a Mari El prison recruiting inmates, promising them freedom if they served six months with the Wagner Group.
The fishing boat incident, and simultaneous trade war launched by Russia against Ukraine, were both about Ukraine’s EU aspirations, doofus. But thank you conceding the point that Russian Nazis started the war, whether you count July 2013, February 2014, or February 2022 as the start date.
And again, nobody said the July 2013 incident started the Maidan protests, but thanks for proving that you’re dumber than a pine cone.
Yet, there was no revolution in July 2013. Or neo-nazi violence in July 2013. And no Russians in Ukraine in 2013.
And there yuh have it >>> "The war started by the Russian Nazis"
Trade wars happen all the time without neo-nazis starting violence. Trade wars happen all the time without 8 years ethnic cleansing of minority people by neo-nazis. Then a full blown war. A trade war was not the cause.
The only things that forced Ukraine neo-nazis to become violent on November 24th was their choosing to do so. All the other protestors were trying to get them to stop, calling neo-nazis on their own side the provocateurs. They admitted themselves that Ukraine neo-nazis were causing the violence, not Russia, not the police. Russians weren't there. If you want proof of who started the events leading to this war, the proof is the Ukrainians who were trying to control / stop the neo-nazi problem on their own side. They are the evidence that Ukraine neo-nazis started all the violence. These cooler heads were 1) telling the police not to respond to being attacked by UPA / Nazi flag wielding neo-nazis and 2) also telling those neo-nazis on their side to stop.
How much restraint was shown by police already being attacked, to then not respond to being attacked. That lasted about a day or two. Then they need to defend themselves. It was all over after that. And endless tit-for-tat of escalation, disproportionately by Ukraine neo-nazis in the Donbas. That woke the Russian bear!
Control your neo-nazi problem then your life won't be ruined in running forums. Russia did not start this war. Violent Ukraine neo-nazis started. Everything you mention economically as the true precipitating events happens all the time without leading to ethnic cleansing and war.
If every trade war caused a war, you'd have a point. If every trade war rallied neo-nazis to start violence then ethnic cleanse for 8 years, you'd have a point. neo-nazis chose violence. Others on their side did not. Most Ukrainians wanted peace in 2013.
You have no point. Violence is a choice. It is not the default of revolutions or of trade wars. In this case, violence was started by Ukraine neo-nazis.
But I appreciate you admitting it was a non-violent trade war, not a fishing incident. Sounds about right to me as far as the economic beef. Truth is, Yanukovych was paid off by Russia. All puppets are paid off by their master like Z now. No shocker there.
None of which has anything to do with Ukraine's neo-nazis starting the very first violence on November 24th. Accomplish things peacefully and democratically.
Yanukovych was never impeached. They never reached the vote threshold required by their own constitution to remove him. america pretending they had and then calling a new government as legitimate without removing the old one first was not legitimate or democratic.
It was an illegal coup, according to Ukraine's constitution.
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Founded and led by Dmitry Utkin, Nazi tattoos and all.
You can't even read.
Founded by Yevgeny Prigozhin.
After years of denying his links to Wagner, he eventually confirmed that he was its founder on 26 September 2022. He stated that he founded it in May 2014, to support Russian forces in the war in Donbas. This admission was prompted by a viral video in which Prigozhin was shown in a Mari El prison recruiting inmates, promising them freedom if they served six months with the Wagner Group.
Wagner kept the peace in Crimea. They were there to prevent another neo-nazi tarnished Maidan from Kyiv happening in Crimea. That was being discussed by Ukraine's nazi groups before the vote so people in Crimea needed to be ready and protected to vote freely.
Why the voting violence concern? Because when people try to vote in Ukraine, Ukraine nazis show up and start shooting and executing (see video below, go to the 5:00 mark to see Donbas referendum voters get executed by Ukraine neo-nazi military).
Having Wagner in Crimea worked. No war. 6 deaths total in the 2 months of Crimea's transition and none were proven to be caused by Wagner. Even if they killed all 6, still better than Ukraine's neo-nazis killing many more over 8 years.
I'll take Wagner's neo-nazis keeping the peace to assure a legitimate voting process over Ukraine's neo-nazis ethnic cleansing unarmed civilians in the Donbas when they try to vote.
Regarding promising prisoners freedom, it sounds like Wagner kept their deal with prisoners being released. But man, that's a tough parole/probation... kill or be killed!
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Yevgeny Prigozhin, founder of the Wagner private military company (PMC), has said that more than 5,000 Wagnerites have been pardoned and released after participating in the war against Ukraine. Source: Prigozhin in an audio c...
Before this is over there will be over 300,000 dead Russians, was this a stupid idea or what? How funny is it watching those Russian tank convoys rolling down the road in a long line getting picked off one by one, hahahaha! Dumbest army on earth.
Having to call in that Wagner group pretty much says it all.
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Yes, I am a "Russian Nazi"..... who is blocking the ethnic cleansing of unarmed minority civilians from actual Ukraine neo-nazis.
I feel like we should revisit this. Can you tell the difference between what you personally are doing, and what Russian soldiers are doing? Or is there essentially no difference at all?
Keep in mind, Russia is already winning. They are in Ukraine and Crimea is Russia. This could change, for either side. Anything is possible. So where do they stack up on ammo, tanks, and troops?
Vladimir Putin has stated that arms supplies to Ukraine pose a threat to Russia and claimed that the country will produce three times as much ammunition and tanks as the AFU will receive from Western partners
"The problem for the US, and for the West, is that this message is starting to resonate around the world. Many non-Westerners feel that the US is in no position to lecture other countries about the sanctity of sovereignty, territorial integrity, international law and the so-called rules-based order. They recognise that the US has violated these principles before — most recently with the disastrous invasions and bombing campaigns against Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria. This is why the West’s attempt to frame the conflict in Ukraine as a moral struggle of “good versus evil” elicits unease among many non-Westerners"
Crazy. america is literally on the wrong side of morality in this war, from the start! Usually we are morally wrong after a war ends, finding our lies years later. But in Ukraine, we backed the bad guys from the very start.... ethnic cleansing Ukraine neo-nazis who provoked Russia into a war by ethnic cleansing unarmed civilians for 8 years.
Actually, many westerners are against america's hypocsrisy too. The ones who are not CNN/Fox/MSNBC constipated people...
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