This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
Twoggle, don't you know that you're an awful person who keeps spreading antivax propaganda, according to 2600Harambro?
Not that it matters now, because anyone who wanted the original series and booster has actually had it.
Yes he is either extremely gullible and stupid, or a bad person.
Anyone that repeatedly posts Rancourts claim 17M dead from the vaccine... yikes.
How about those people who spread lies and propaganda like if you are unvaxxed and get covid, you have no immune system. Are they gullible and stupid, a bad person, you or all of the above?
I added some videos with independent experts discussing research and clinical observations. I will post some of those sections subsequent to this post. I will try to avoid spamming the board with tweets and comments from persons who work for an employee who made over one billion dollars from contaminated mRNA drugs and who also works in a department with a Pfizer partnership (e.g., Jeffrey Morris).
Twoggle, don't you know that you're an awful person who keeps spreading antivax propaganda, according to 2600Harambro?
Not that it matters now, because anyone who wanted the original series and booster has actually had it.
I know. The pharma lobby does like to call people "antivax." I always recommend that people learn read independent informaiton about vax drugs like this presentation (and especially the chart) by the President of the Infectiuous Disease Society of America:
Vinay Prasad, MD MPH; Physician & Professor Hematologist/ OncologistProfessor of Epidemiology, Biostatistics and MedicineAuthor of 450+ Peer Reviewed papers,...
Traditional Vaccines Now in Question: Dr. Harvey Risch Loses All Trust in the CDC and the FDA
“To be honest, my trust level in those institutions is ZERO. They have shown their complete corruption with regards to industry sponsors, and it’s despicable." pic.twitter.com/XVYoEWDnnd
Flawed studies desperately attempting to prop up the ‘official’ covid narrative are getting worse. Here I briefly review 3 recent published studies which should never have passed review. Two were in @TheLancet 🤡🌎 pic.twitter.com/CHZ8ufwdPy
We examined the possible non-specific effects of novel mRNA- and adenovirus-vector COVID-19 vaccines by reviewing the randomized control trials (RCTs) of mRNA and adenovirus-vector COVID-19 vaccines. We calculated mortality r...
Access to Data DENIED! (Note: One of many times data is hidden)
Another flawed covid pregnancy study?
The authors won't let us access even the de-identified data to check it.
Another week, another paper published in a top journal pushing either the notion that covid is especially dangerous for pregnant women and their babies or that… pic.twitter.com/y3i7eoQd8g
Twoggle, don't you know that you're an awful person who keeps spreading antivax propaganda, according to 2600Harambro?
Not that it matters now, because anyone who wanted the original series and booster has actually had it.
I know. The pharma lobby does like to call people "antivax." I always recommend that people learn read independent informaiton about vax drugs like this presentation (and especially the chart) by the President of the Infectiuous Disease Society of America:
The vaxtard will not like this. Not one bit. You will be met with snarkiness, straw men and angrrrrrr! 👍 That’s when you know they have no rebuttal. The one thing it will not be met with by him is facts.
Notice how "they" are always posting at the same time or one disappears and the other reappears? Both with the exact same opinions and defenses on everything? It must be hard living with multiple personalities.
Most content-filled antivaxxer series of posts yet:
1) Open insults and slurs
2) Arguing why they shouldn't have to refute pro-vax points
You want to engage in a serious discussion about vaccines? You can stop mocking people who didn't agree you and opted for natural immunity. You can acknowledge that to the extent Djokovic is declining at all, it's far more likely he's aging out. Almost impossible to play high level tennis at age 32, let alone, 36. This is why nobody in the top 10, besides him, is 30+. You can also apologize for registering people's handles, the domain of a child-like behavior. But, a deluded narcissist like you just simply isn't capable of humbling himself and doing any of these things. Sad.
I will leave of my own accord when this stops being fun, but not because you have anything compelling to say or because you outlasted everyone. For someone who calls himself so brilliant, it's quite remarkable you continue to back yourself into so many corners and keep engaging.
The formula is quite simple.
Chokervic 'aging out' at exactly the time he got COVID. Convenient.
The tetanus paper was an example of how dismissing low-prevalence disease as unnecessary for vaccination campaigns harms children. Every time anti-vaxxers sway a family into forgoing vaccination they risk condemning their children unneeded pain and suffering. For many anti-vaxxers this is simply the cost of doing business (clicks, views, dogma-rationalization) - they are ok with it. I am not.
See, here's the thing. Nobody is disagreeing on your tetanus stance (or your HIV prophylaxis stance). Nobody, and I mean literally nobody, is saying don't get most routine vaccinations. You need it to be so, but it's just not so. Just like nobody is telling high risk Covid people not to get vaccinated against Covid. Also, tetanus and HIV are not Covid, not by a long shot, so your analogies fall flat.
Some people, like Djokovic, simply didn't trust that the vaccine had been vetted long enough or properly enough for such a new technology and they felt like it was an unnecessary risk given the minuscule risk of getting Covid itself. Myriad observational reports have proven them right (like so many adverse reactions that didn't make their way to VAERS that people have observed in real time). But, for that posture, you accuse Djokovic of being an idiot, and azzhiole, an anti-vaxxer, and a bad person. I simply don't agree with you. And you don't compel me otherwise with the mocking, condescension, and general air of superiority that you exhibit on a daily basis.
I'm sorry if this hurts, but, you are not a good person.
Well, there it is.
Tetanus vaccine = extremely low absolute risk. Likely less of a risk-reward than the COVID vax.
Antivaxxers: "nobody disagrees"
They just don't like the COVID vaccine. They can't explain why. Just contrarianism.
See, here's the thing. Nobody is disagreeing on your tetanus stance (or your HIV prophylaxis stance). Nobody, and I mean literally nobody, is saying don't get most routine vaccinations. You need it to be so, but it's just not so. Just like nobody is telling high risk Covid people not to get vaccinated against Covid. Also, tetanus and HIV are not Covid, not by a long shot, so your analogies fall flat.
Some people, like Djokovic, simply didn't trust that the vaccine had been vetted long enough or properly enough for such a new technology and they felt like it was an unnecessary risk given the minuscule risk of getting Covid itself. Myriad observational reports have proven them right (like so many adverse reactions that didn't make their way to VAERS that people have observed in real time). But, for that posture, you accuse Djokovic of being an idiot, and azzhiole, an anti-vaxxer, and a bad person. I simply don't agree with you. And you don't compel me otherwise with the mocking, condescension, and general air of superiority that you exhibit on a daily basis.
I'm sorry if this hurts, but, you are not a good person.
Well, there it is.
Tetanus vaccine = extremely low absolute risk. Likely less of a risk-reward than the COVID vax.
Antivaxxers: "nobody disagrees"
They just don't like the COVID vaccine. They can't explain why. Just contrarianism.
This. Coming from the guy who said if an unvaxxed person gets covid then they have no immune system. 🤦♂️
I know. The pharma lobby does like to call people "antivax." I always recommend that people learn read independent informaiton about vax drugs like this presentation (and especially the chart) by the President of the Infectiuous Disease Society of America:
The vaxtard will not like this. Not one bit. You will be met with snarkiness, straw men and angrrrrrr! 👍 That’s when you know they have no rebuttal. The one thing it will not be met with by him is facts.
1971. Comical.
Avoids all of the major childhood vaccines (and doesn't even seem to mention polio).
MMR pneumococcal strains
Pertussis is discussed but let's look at the trend now:
I could go on but it seems twoggle is a straight up antivaxxer who thinks all childhood vaccines are bad. Nothing like wishing for thousands of dead kids a year..
Edit: here's a pretty good graph for measals that the antivaxxers hate:
Chokervic 'aging out' at exactly the time he got COVID. Convenient.
Whatever you need to tell yourself!
I need to tell myself that you are a condescending narcissist, an irrational person who can't see the obvious when it comes to the world's #1 ranked tennis player, the winner of 3 of the last fine 5 slams, and someone who very childishly steals people's handles when he doesn't like the trajectory of the dialogue. And, as predicted, you need to prove me right. Over and over. Because humility and "maybe I'm wrong" is not in your vocab.
Twoggle, don't you know that you're an awful person who keeps spreading antivax propaganda, according to 2600Harambro?
Not that it matters now, because anyone who wanted the original series and booster has actually had it.
I know. The pharma lobby does like to call people "antivax." I always recommend that people learn read independent informaiton about vax drugs like this presentation (and especially the chart) by the President of the Infectiuous Disease Society of America:
It’s often argued that life expectancy across the world has only increased because child mortality has fallen. But this is untrue. The data shows that life expectancy has increased at all ages.
See, here's the thing. Nobody is disagreeing on your tetanus stance (or your HIV prophylaxis stance). Nobody, and I mean literally nobody, is saying don't get most routine vaccinations. You need it to be so, but it's just not so. Just like nobody is telling high risk Covid people not to get vaccinated against Covid. Also, tetanus and HIV are not Covid, not by a long shot, so your analogies fall flat.
Some people, like Djokovic, simply didn't trust that the vaccine had been vetted long enough or properly enough for such a new technology and they felt like it was an unnecessary risk given the minuscule risk of getting Covid itself. Myriad observational reports have proven them right (like so many adverse reactions that didn't make their way to VAERS that people have observed in real time). But, for that posture, you accuse Djokovic of being an idiot, and azzhiole, an anti-vaxxer, and a bad person. I simply don't agree with you. And you don't compel me otherwise with the mocking, condescension, and general air of superiority that you exhibit on a daily basis.
I'm sorry if this hurts, but, you are not a good person.
Well, there it is.
Tetanus vaccine = extremely low absolute risk. Likely less of a risk-reward than the COVID vax.
Antivaxxers: "nobody disagrees"
They just don't like the COVID vaccine. They can't explain why. Just contrarianism.
The vaxtard will not like this. Not one bit. You will be met with snarkiness, straw men and angrrrrrr! 👍 That’s when you know they have no rebuttal. The one thing it will not be met with by him is facts.
1971. Comical.
Avoids all of the major childhood vaccines (and doesn't even seem to mention polio).
MMR pneumococcal strains
Pertussis is discussed but let's look at the trend now:
I could go on but it seems twoggle is a straight up antivaxxer who thinks all childhood vaccines are bad. Nothing like wishing for thousands of dead kids a year..
Remember folks. This is the guy who argued that if an unvaxxed person gets covid, they have no immune system. Nada, zero, zilch. It’s destroyed. It no longer exists. And then today he doubled down on that statement. 🤦♂️
This is the level of intelligence we’re dealing with here folks.
Plus, he’s got this little guy in white tennis shorts running around in his head 24/7. “Chikeovic!!! Get out of my head!” 😂😂😂
Chokervic 'aging out' at exactly the time he got COVID. Convenient.
Whatever you need to tell yourself!
I need to tell myself that you are a condescending narcissist, an irrational person who can't see the obvious when it comes to the world's #1 ranked tennis player, the winner of 3 of the last fine 5 slams, and someone who very childishly steals people's handles when he doesn't like the trajectory of the dialogue. And, as predicted, you need to prove me right. Over and over. Because humility and "maybe I'm wrong" is not in your vocab.
You admitted he is 'aging out.' We simply disagree on the why.
I could go on but it seems twoggle is a straight up antivaxxer who thinks all childhood vaccines are bad. Nothing like wishing for thousands of dead kids a year..
Remember folks. This is the guy who argued that if an unvaxxed person gets covid, they have no immune system. Nada, zero, zilch. It’s destroyed. It no longer exists. And then today he doubled down on that statement. 🤦♂️
This is the level of intelligence we’re dealing with here folks.
Plus, he’s got this little guy in white tennis shorts running around in his head 24/7. “Chikeovic!!! Get out of my head!” 😂😂😂
The vaxtard will not like this. Not one bit. You will be met with snarkiness, straw men and angrrrrrr! 👍 That’s when you know they have no rebuttal. The one thing it will not be met with by him is facts.
1971. Comical.
Avoids all of the major childhood vaccines (and doesn't even seem to mention polio).
MMR pneumococcal strains
Pertussis is discussed but let's look at the trend now:
I could go on but it seems twoggle is a straight up antivaxxer who thinks all childhood vaccines are bad. Nothing like wishing for thousands of dead kids a year..
Edit: here's a pretty good graph for measals that the antivaxxers hate:
