This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
Most humorous thing you've ever written. Yes, you've never mocked, not even once on this thread. You really do think people are stupid.
I just don't agree with you on the facts. Someone who adhered to all the "rules" that weren't rules, supposedly, including masking, distancing, testing, and quarantining when sick but also opting for natural immunity because the risk was so infinitesimally small isn't an anti-vaxxer and isn't spreading anti-vaxx propaganda. You keep telling yourself what you want to hear, including that a damn-near 37-year old #1 ranked tennis player has long Covid.
As usual, I knew no acknowledgement or apology was forthcoming from you. Self-aggrandizing narcissist. I wonder if my vaxxed friend who actually gave me Covid when she felt bulletproof is on the same wavelength as you?
Adhering to 9/10 of the rules but refusing to get vaxxed despite all the data… doesn’t forgive the choice. You still made a bad choice, that, on the balance, but yourself and your family at risk. That’s all there is to it!
Now, choosing to stridently argue antivaxx talking points is much worse. That’s just malicious. You can’t live with your own bad decision. You have to crow about it online. Or do you feel guilty and are desperate for validation?
All I know is that a man content with their “personal choice” would not need to debate it to the nth degree with a gorilla
It's really hard for people that have never been really been told they are wrong (coddled their entire life) to have someone insist, with evidence, they are wrong and likely stupid. It throws anti-vaxxers brain into fits.
See: the 500 posts in the past week... they want to argue, but they never engage about the data behind the vaccine (their brain knows they have nothing)... so they focus on other things to try and resolve the cognitive dissonance.
It's remarkable to watch and engage with; one of the reasons I love coming back.
You said it yesterday. You said getting Covid when you are unvaxxed destroys your immune system.
Own it. Don’t backtrack now little piggy.
I said this in response to Kobbs Hesslers post that said "repeated vaccination destroys your immune system"
I provided two studies that showed increases autoimmune risks among unvaxxed COVID-infected populations.
Now Harambro is doubling down on his statement that an unvaxxed person who gets covid has no immune system. It’s destroyed.
The lunacy is frightening. 🤦♂️ Billiions would be dead if it were true. DanM wouldn’t be owning Harambro on a daily basis. He’d be dead. Djoker would be dead instead of still being the number 1 ranked player in the world and living quite comfortably in Harambro’s head.
Adhering to 9/10 of the rules but refusing to get vaxxed despite all the data… doesn’t forgive the choice. You still made a bad choice, that, on the balance, but yourself and your family at risk. That’s all there is to it!
Now, choosing to stridently argue antivaxx talking points is much worse. That’s just malicious. You can’t live with your own bad decision. You have to crow about it online. Or do you feel guilty and are desperate for validation?
All I know is that a man content with their “personal choice” would not need to debate it to the nth degree with a gorilla
It's really hard for people that have never been really been told they are wrong (coddled their entire life) to have someone insist, with evidence, they are wrong and likely stupid. It throws anti-vaxxers brain into fits.
Lol, are you looking in the mirror as you write that?
Most humorous thing you've ever written. Yes, you've never mocked, not even once on this thread. You really do think people are stupid.
I just don't agree with you on the facts. Someone who adhered to all the "rules" that weren't rules, supposedly, including masking, distancing, testing, and quarantining when sick but also opting for natural immunity because the risk was so infinitesimally small isn't an anti-vaxxer and isn't spreading anti-vaxx propaganda. You keep telling yourself what you want to hear, including that a damn-near 37-year old #1 ranked tennis player has long Covid.
As usual, I knew no acknowledgement or apology was forthcoming from you. Self-aggrandizing narcissist. I wonder if my vaxxed friend who actually gave me Covid when she felt bulletproof is on the same wavelength as you?
Adhering to 9/10 of the rules but refusing to get vaxxed despite all the data… doesn’t forgive the choice. You still made a bad choice, that, on the balance, but yourself and your family at risk. That’s all there is to it!
Now, choosing to stridently argue antivaxx talking points is much worse. That’s just malicious. You can’t live with your own bad decision. You have to crow about it online. Or do you feel guilty and are desperate for validation?
All I know is that a man content with their “personal choice” would not need to debate it to the nth degree with a gorilla
Nope, not a bad choice. Quite a good choice.
The debate is about calling your arrogant, smug self out for how you choose to conduct yourself on this thread. It's not even debating. You mock, you can't admit that the tennis player you so badly want to have long Covid is probably just getting old and tired, and you steal people's handles. So, yeah, you actually invite ridicule, because you have zero humility and ability to say you were wrong. It's quite amusing.
OMG, 2600bro, I'm boosted against tetanus and I believe that you and Harambe should both be on HIV prophylaxis, just like Djokovic. That doesn't comport with the antivaxxer narrative!!!!
He’s down a notch after his COVID infection. Could it just be age? Sure. I think it’s COVID. We have no evidence for either but I’m confident in my opinion.
You want to engage in a serious discussion about vaccines? You can stop mocking people who didn't agree you and opted for natural immunity. You can acknowledge that to the extent Djokovic is declining at all, it's far more likely he's aging out. Almost impossible to play high level tennis at age 32, let alone, 36. This is why nobody in the top 10, besides him, is 30+. You can also apologize for registering people's handles, the domain of a child-like behavior. But, a deluded narcissist like you just simply isn't capable of humbling himself and doing any of these things. Sad.
I will leave of my own accord when this stops being fun, but not because you have anything compelling to say or because you outlasted everyone. For someone who calls himself so brilliant, it's quite remarkable you continue to back yourself into so many corners and keep engaging.
OMG, 2600bro, I'm boosted against tetanus and I believe that you and Harambe should both be on HIV prophylaxis, just like Djokovic. That doesn't comport with the antivaxxer narrative!!!!
I enjoy the unstated message here - definitely makes me you think are a "good person"
I am glad you accept the vaccination is beneficial!
You want to engage in a serious discussion about vaccines? You can stop mocking people who didn't agree you and opted for natural immunity. You can acknowledge that to the extent Djokovic is declining at all, it's far more likely he's aging out. Almost impossible to play high level tennis at age 32, let alone, 36. This is why nobody in the top 10, besides him, is 30+. You can also apologize for registering people's handles, the domain of a child-like behavior. But, a deluded narcissist like you just simply isn't capable of humbling himself and doing any of these things. Sad.
I will leave of my own accord when this stops being fun, but not because you have anything compelling to say or because you outlasted everyone. For someone who calls himself so brilliant, it's quite remarkable you continue to back yourself into so many corners and keep engaging.
The formula is quite simple.
"Opting for natural immunity" = not getting vaccinated, we don't need flowery language to cover up your choice - say what you mean.
Everyone has this choice, like Harambe said. Everyone also has the option to think less of people that make such a choice! Simple.
When you start propagating anti-vax narratives that convince others to make bad decisions, that's less forgiveable. If you force your anti-vax narratives on your family and children, that's just despicable.
Your only arguements about vaccination really center around a tennis player. You refuse to engage in other discourse, or, when you attempt to, it's embarrassing (see cold vaccines) That's why, despite your claims of IQ test, etc. I don't take anything you say very seriously :)
But it's fun to watch you slowly realize what's going on...
OMG, 2600bro, I'm boosted against tetanus and I believe that you and Harambe should both be on HIV prophylaxis, just like Djokovic. That doesn't comport with the antivaxxer narrative!!!!
I enjoy the unstated message here - definitely makes me you think are a "good person"
I am glad you accept the vaccination is beneficial!
It doesn't really matter whether you think I'm a good person or not. I mean, all you've done is call us morons and idiots over and over.
Yes, sometimes vaccines are warranted and helpful. But, unlike you, I don't mock anyone who makes the personal choice not to get vaccinated.
"Opting for natural immunity" = not getting vaccinated, we don't need flowery language to cover up your choice - say what you mean.
Everyone has this choice, like Harambe said. Everyone also has the option to think less of people that make such a choice! Simple.
When you start propagating anti-vax narratives that convince others to make bad decisions, that's less forgiveable. If you force your anti-vax narratives on your family and children, that's just despicable.
Your only arguements about vaccination really center around a tennis player. You refuse to engage in other discourse, or, when you attempt to, it's embarrassing (see cold vaccines) That's why, despite your claims of IQ test, etc. I don't take anything you say very seriously :)
But it's fun to watch you slowly realize what's going on...
Yes, opting for natural immunity equals not getting vaccinated. Bingo! Never said otherwise. That's not the same as spreading anti-vax narratives. You know what else it's not like? Spreading Covid after vaccination because you were told by the preeminent scientists that you couldn't.
You are not the arbiter of morality regarding personal and family decisions, as much as you'd like to be.
I only talk about Djokovic because I know it bothers you so. And you deserve to be bothered.
I mean, ever since, all you can do is post papers on tetanus as though people who refuse the Covid vaccine all and everywhere refuse the tetanus vaccine. You would extrapolate that to they don't even believe in HAART for HIV! Oh, you would throw your "heft" behind a paper that suggests a fifth shot that might provide eight more months of protection against symptomatic Covid (nevermind that it continues to drive strain evolution) with considerable caveats is somehow enhancing the debate.
As I said, natural immunity and 3 vaccinations are equivalent and this is so 2021. I've moved on, Djokovic has moved on, most people have moved on. Why can't you?
So someone who mocks, commits libel against the greatest tennis player who ever lived, and who steals people's handles is somehow a "good person," as you fancy yourself?
"Opting for natural immunity" = not getting vaccinated, we don't need flowery language to cover up your choice - say what you mean.
Everyone has this choice, like Harambe said. Everyone also has the option to think less of people that make such a choice! Simple.
When you start propagating anti-vax narratives that convince others to make bad decisions, that's less forgiveable. If you force your anti-vax narratives on your family and children, that's just despicable.
Your only arguements about vaccination really center around a tennis player. You refuse to engage in other discourse, or, when you attempt to, it's embarrassing (see cold vaccines) That's why, despite your claims of IQ test, etc. I don't take anything you say very seriously :)
But it's fun to watch you slowly realize what's going on...
Yes, opting for natural immunity equals not getting vaccinated. Bingo! Never said otherwise. That's not the same as spreading anti-vax narratives. You know what else it's not like? Spreading Covid after vaccination because you were told by the preeminent scientists that you couldn't.
You are not the arbiter of morality regarding personal and family decisions, as much as you'd like to be.
I only talk about Djokovic because I know it bothers you so. And you deserve to be bothered.
I mean, ever since, all you can do is post papers on tetanus as though people who refuse the Covid vaccine all and everywhere refuse the tetanus vaccine. You would extrapolate that to they don't even believe in HAART for HIV! Oh, you would throw your "heft" behind a paper that suggests a fifth shot that might provide eight more months of protection against symptomatic Covid (nevermind that it continues to drive strain evolution) with considerable caveats is somehow enhancing the debate.
As I said, natural immunity and 3 vaccinations are equivalent and this is so 2021. I've moved on, Djokovic has moved on, most people have moved on. Why can't you?
So someone who mocks, commits libel against the greatest tennis player who ever lived, and who steals people's handles is somehow a "good person," as you fancy yourself?
You don’t have a right to not be judged for your actions. This isn’t a confessional. This is the real world.
If you’re going to do things I think are stupid and harmful I’m going to tell you they are stupid and harmful. I am going to be even more critical for, say, those pushing such decisions on their family, or public figures that espouse damaging conspiracy theories. It’s not libel LMAO!
I really wonder how you were raised!
NB: you still missed the point of HIV prophylaxis example, but I figured that was bit too nuanced for you. Also, vaccines don’t drive strain evolution anymore than long infections do … and they actually have benefits!
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Yes, opting for natural immunity equals not getting vaccinated. Bingo! Never said otherwise. That's not the same as spreading anti-vax narratives. You know what else it's not like? Spreading Covid after vaccination because you were told by the preeminent scientists that you couldn't.
You are not the arbiter of morality regarding personal and family decisions, as much as you'd like to be.
I only talk about Djokovic because I know it bothers you so. And you deserve to be bothered.
I mean, ever since, all you can do is post papers on tetanus as though people who refuse the Covid vaccine all and everywhere refuse the tetanus vaccine. You would extrapolate that to they don't even believe in HAART for HIV! Oh, you would throw your "heft" behind a paper that suggests a fifth shot that might provide eight more months of protection against symptomatic Covid (nevermind that it continues to drive strain evolution) with considerable caveats is somehow enhancing the debate.
As I said, natural immunity and 3 vaccinations are equivalent and this is so 2021. I've moved on, Djokovic has moved on, most people have moved on. Why can't you?
So someone who mocks, commits libel against the greatest tennis player who ever lived, and who steals people's handles is somehow a "good person," as you fancy yourself?
You don’t have a right to not be judged for your actions. This isn’t a confessional. This is the real world.
If you’re going to do things I think are stupid and harmful I’m going to tell you they are stupid and harmful. I am going to be even more critical for, say, those pushing such decisions on their family, or public figures that espouse damaging conspiracy theories. It’s not libel LMAO!
I really wonder how you were raised!
NB: you still missed the point of HIV prophylaxis example, but I figured that was bit too nuanced for you. Also, vaccines don’t drive strain evolution anymore than long infections do … and they actually have benefits!
You're right. Just like you don't have the right to not be judged for coercing mask, distance, testing, and, especially vaccine mandates, that, according to you, and, now Fauci, weren't mandates, just "good ideas." But coerce them you did and mock anyone who would disagree or even prove they were just fine getting immunized the good old fashioned way.
So, now you are squirming into a position of, "well, ok, but now you are at higher risk for Crohns, myocarditis, dementia, whatever," based on a couple of very biased papers. Sorry, you are inviting ridicule.
.. or to be judged over your stupid stance on Djokovic's "condition" that everyone knows is dumb and without merit. The reason Djokovic bothers you so is not only did he defy your fundamental truth and live to tell about it, but he's also not suffering as you believe he deserves. So, you squirm some more.
Why did you post the tetanus paper at all then, if we can't understand nuance? Yeah, you're not making the point you think you are.
Notice how "they" are always posting at the same time or one disappears and the other reappears? Both with the exact same opinions and defenses on everything? It must be hard living with multiple personalities.