50+ Masters Training and Racing Open Forum

that's amazing. Congratulations. any close calls on missing a day? How did you settle on 3 miles as the minimum? --dave

Not Done Just Yet wrote:

That marks the completion of a streak or 28 straight years of at least three miles a days. It actually may be just a bit longer, but I know it was longer as today is also the anniversary of the my wife's and my first 'date'.

!

8/19/20 Wensday 615am

61.5 yo black male 150lb 6ft.

Easy 30min spinning bike then lifted weights 9 different lifts. A little tired needed an easy day.

Cheers to yall.

Stocky Old Runner wrote:

Try running here in Denver with the horrible air pollution from the nearby forest fires and the current oppressive heat wave.

Stocky Old Runner, OK, that's worse than I have to deal with, for sure. Actually I don't have any environmental problems to deal with--all the problems are due to me.

As for the mask requirements being tough for you to deal with, I totally get that, and I would probably feel just as frustrated as you do. However, bear in mind the requirements are designed to reduce disease transmission. People's convenience while exercising is not the priority, as you have discovered.

My gym has reopened, but I have not returned. My gym allows people to remove their masks while using exercise equipment. That's very convenient. But is it safe? Probably not. Recall that people singing together in choirs have created super-spreading events. It turns out that a bunch of people in close proximity, singing loudly with their mouths wide open, transmits aerosolized particles throughout the surrounding environment. I am pretty sure a bunch of people on exercise machines (treadmills, ellipticals, etc.) creates a similar effect.

Yes, pandemics create inconveniences. Who would have guessed?

Stocky Old Runner, good luck with the fires. It is frustrating.

I've had to break from running each of the last 3 years during fire season, and it is a bummer.

We have bad air again from fires just now.

Fires, Covid, political uncertainty, bad economy, home schooling (yeah I had kids late). OUCH.

Over here, my Achilles problem is slowly improving. I ran once last week.

San Francisco city beach, barefoot.

5:00 slow to warm up.

then 5:00 pick-up, notching up pace. Last 300m at 85 - 90% speed. Pure exhillaration, hella fun!

Current strategy with Achilles: Rest, heel-drop exercises and here's a surprise, a glass of water each day with a tablespoon of apple cider vinegar. This works for calcium deposits, seems to be improving Achilles inflammation too. Is this placebo? Maybe, who cares!

Best to all, happy running.

Brittle Master 1958 wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Apparently a mutual under the skin club.

We are all brothers under the skin. Even Igy and his tormentors.

Seems to me that Igy is the tormentor. Good for that other guy for not taking the bait and instead taking the high road.

Smoke the suburbs and foothills near Denver have been intermittently bad, but it's not catastrophic. Lived in Alaska during the summers of 2004-2005 when some 10 million acres burned. Now that was bad. We could go for days when you could barely see across the street and ashes would fall from the sky from fires 20 or 30 miles away.

Nevertheless, it has been very hot here (most days since early July have been over 90 in Denver and suburbs), and last weekend the ozone was bad. Smoke has not been so bad, mostly in the moderate category and unhealthy for sensitive groups, but we did get a pretty good blow through last night. Using the visibility index, the worst it has been, 2-3 miles of visibility on Sunday morning--I just went a little bit south (still in the metro area and we had 10 miles visibility).

https://www.colorado.gov/airquality/wildfire.aspx

What is wrong with you?

dahli wrote:

What is wrong with you?

It's called art criticism.

"Life is a comedy to those that think," as Horace Walpole said.

I take it you aren't much of a thinker.

Brittle Master 1958 wrote:

dahli wrote:

What is wrong with you?

It's called art criticism.

"Life is a comedy to those that think," as Horace Walpole said.

I take it you aren't much of a thinker.

I am a thinker and I think you’re nuts.

You love to dish it out until it hits you back in the face.

For many years the 50+ thread was a bastion of sanity, now it's about as crazy as the rest of Letsrun.

It’s the new American way. If you don’t like someone you project an image of your own creation. Just dare that party to respond. Most won’t. Go ahead label them a racist, narcissist, tormentor, or PED user. Choose a label that hits below the knees. It works best. Cut them down. That will shut them up. You’ve smeared them if they don’t respond, or even if they do. Works pretty well actually. Of course they can express their superior morality, their fidelity to a higher moral cause, by signing off each week “Best to most.”

Igy

dhaaga wrote:

that's amazing. Congratulations. any close calls on missing a day? How did you settle on 3 miles as the minimum?

--dave

Not Done Just Yet wrote:

That marks the completion of a streak or 28 straight years of at least three miles a days. It actually may be just a bit longer, but I know it was longer as today is also the anniversary of the my wife's and my first 'date'.

!

Accutally I realize it may be a obsessive, but it gets me out the doors and keeps me training.

I have had a couple of close calls. Had to run at 3:30 and 3:00 a.m. before flights home from Sydney and Beijing. There was a -23 ambient air temperature day that was a little touch and go, but got six in before work somehow. I was the Assistant Port Director for CBP in Detroit on the day the guy tried to blow-up an international flight with a bomb in his underwear. - I barely got three miles in at 11:30 p.m. when I finally got home. I was detailed to FEMA after Katrina and Rita Hurricanes so those were interesting runs at 04:00 each day. And a few uncomfortable runs after hard marathons and a hard ultra that I won when I was 41 -it probably didn't help my recovery. But all in all not too bad. I seldom get 'injured', haven't gotten sick in a couple of decades, and generally have been pretty lucky.

The three mile minimum? That came from a great runner I roomed with in college in the mid 1970s - Peter Hallop- One of his "Pete-isms" was if you don't run at least three miles, then don't even write it down, because it doesn't count.

Two of the longest American streaks were/are by Mark Covert and Jon Sutherland. I say were/are since Mark’s ended several years ago, and Jon’s may still be going. I believe they were using one mile as the distance to be considered a run. I ran against both as a young man in Southern California in the late 60s, so that gives you some timeline on their streaks. Mark documents his streak in the book “Never Missed.”

Coyote Montane wrote:

For many years the 50+ thread was a bastion of sanity, now it's about as crazy as the rest of Letsrun.

It would be nice if we could block certain posters à la Facebook. There is still a lot of good stuff here. But it is getting harder to find the signal through all of the noise.

Jack wagon wrote:

Coyote Montane wrote:

For many years the 50+ thread was a bastion of sanity, now it's about as crazy as the rest of Letsrun.

It would be nice if we could block certain posters à la Facebook. There is still a lot of good stuff here. But it is getting harder to find the signal through all of the noise.

A good start would be posters old guy and Bertrand that have zero personal training posts. Get that, zero. Perhaps they post their training under different handles, and relegate these registered handles for snarky comments directed my way. That’s their thing. I should consider it a compliment.

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

Jack wagon wrote:

It would be nice if we could block certain posters à la Facebook. There is still a lot of good stuff here. But it is getting harder to find the signal through all of the noise.

A good start would be posters old guy and Bertrand that have zero personal training posts. Get that, zero. Perhaps they post their training under different handles, and relegate these registered handles for snarky comments directed my way. That’s their thing. I should consider it a compliment.

I looked back a few pages and found no posts by anyone named “Bertrand”. As for “old guy” (I assume you do not mean “old guy II”), there was a post of his discussing BMI and racing an 8k. I would certainly consider that training related. I do agree that he and you have been snarky to each other.

To avoid contributing to this problem, I do not intend to discuss it further.

That's pretty amazing. I'm way too fragile to pile up any lengthy streak even in my younger days. While I usually run 7 days per week when healthy, I'm sure my longest consecutive-day streak has been a few months. And while I used to travel quite a lot, and I was pretty good about getting a run in even on days when I had to do things like fly to Japan, I never went to the lengths you describe.

Streaks can be counterproductive if they make you try to run when seriously injured or ill. The things you talk about doing to maintain your streak may be excessive but seem harmless, and if that's what keeps you going, more power to you!

Jack wagon wrote:

Ghost of Igloi wrote:

A good start would be posters old guy and Bertrand that have zero personal training posts. Get that, zero. Perhaps they post their training under different handles, and relegate these registered handles for snarky comments directed my way. That’s their thing. I should consider it a compliment.

I looked back a few pages and found no posts by anyone named “Bertrand”. As for “old guy” (I assume you do not mean “old guy II”), there was a post of his discussing BMI and racing an 8k. I would certainly consider that training related. I do agree that he and you have been snarky to each other.

To avoid contributing to this problem, I do not intend to discuss it further.

Jack wagon,

Seeing this is the second post after registering your handle today, avoiding future discussion of this topic shouldn’t be a problem.

As far as the above, you noted one “training related” post for “old guy.” Zero actual posted training since 3/29/2020. Do a search for “Bertrand” like you did for “old guy.” Same thing, snarky B.S., and zero actual training posted.

Igy