Armstronglivs wrote:
Dreamn wrote:
That’s definitely not true
Whoever she bears would be a poor excuse for a male “pro”
Other women regularly beat Williams. I used to see local schoolboys play visiting world-ranked pro women and beat them. Men's and women's tennis are different universes.
Mixed doubles sure are weird, then.
Born in the 856 wrote:
Sure thing wrote:
Jenny Simpson beat Caster Semenya in the 1500
Rimshot
Comical that this post was deleted
Armstronglivs wrote:
embarrassing backpedaling wrote:
Precisely.
Pompously.
I notice you've conveniently stopped arguing your points. Glad we could put an end to that, at least.
Thanks for seeing the light, always good when I can influence a developing mind.
RossiCheated wrote:
Tripeople wrote:
Her time of 8:26:18 would have won OVERALL in 20 of the last 42 Kona Ironmans.
riathlon
Let's look deeper at this, so we can address this with FACTS and not conjecture like we have to with basketball and other sports.
Kona is the top of the sport, the best professionals, competing on the same course on the same day, only separated by a few minutes in start time. Just over fifty of the best men in the world lining up.
2017
Daniela Ryf would have been 32nd in a field of 55 men, and she would have beaten Jan Frodeno by three spots.
2016
Daniela Ryf would have been 31st in a field of 57 men,
2015
Daniela Ryf would have been 24th in a field of 54 men.
2014
Mirinda Carfrae would have been 30th in a field of 53 men.
And it isn't just the top woman who would beat men. In 2018 there were 12 women would have beaten the last male finisher (and there were 9 more men "behind" him who DNFed).
In 2017 all 28 of the women who finished would have beaten the last male pro. There were probably a lot of female age-groupers who would have beaten him as well but I didn't bother to look because the point is proven.
That's for Ironman. In an Olympic Tri or Sprint Tri, there is NO way the best woman could even come close to the bottom males. Males finish in around 1:40 whereas a female race on same course ends in 2:00. Top guys run 29 min off the bike, the lower-tier ones still run 30-32 min.
In Sprint ITU Edmonton, Male won in 54:52, female won in 1:01:23. Worst male was 59:58. Same for Olympic distance events.
Look at us momm wrote:
Anyone who says Tennis obviously has never played the sport at any competitive level.
Serena would lose to most highly ranked juniors, much much less ANY pro.
I myself, who was just a decent high school player, was able to beat my college friend, who was the #2 ranked player on her college women's team. She even went on to play some pro tournaments with some success. I had a pretty good serve, and it was something she had a hard time handling. And that is at this micro lower level.
Tennis has requires everything from strength to speed. It isn't chess or billiards, which require only skill or brains. It requires all the things that separate women from men athletically.
The Williams sister's once claimed they could beat any male outside of the top 200. One random tennis guy ranked in the low 200s challenged them, and beat them like 6-1 and the sister 6-2, while he was holding back to make the match more interesting and using mostly trick shots. He said even a rank 500 male would be more of a challenge. The William's sisters then said they can beat anyone outside top 350, but never had a match vs a male again after their defeat.
Then the guy who beat them said males can chase better and put spin on the ball that women simply can't handle.
Lindsay Vonn wanted to race males in downhill skiing, but the general opinion was that she would have had absolutely no chance, and just wanted to do it for publicity reasons.
LateRunnerPhil wrote:
RossiCheated wrote:
riathlon
Let's look deeper at this, so we can address this with FACTS and not conjecture like we have to with basketball and other sports.
Kona is the top of the sport, the best professionals, competing on the same course on the same day, only separated by a few minutes in start time. Just over fifty of the best men in the world lining up.
2017
Daniela Ryf would have been 32nd in a field of 55 men, and she would have beaten Jan Frodeno by three spots.
2016
Daniela Ryf would have been 31st in a field of 57 men,
2015
Daniela Ryf would have been 24th in a field of 54 men.
2014
Mirinda Carfrae would have been 30th in a field of 53 men.
And it isn't just the top woman who would beat men. In 2018 there were 12 women would have beaten the last male finisher (and there were 9 more men "behind" him who DNFed).
In 2017 all 28 of the women who finished would have beaten the last male pro. There were probably a lot of female age-groupers who would have beaten him as well but I didn't bother to look because the point is proven.
That's for Ironman. In an Olympic Tri or Sprint Tri, there is NO way the best woman could even come close to the bottom males. Males finish in around 1:40 whereas a female race on same course ends in 2:00. Top guys run 29 min off the bike, the lower-tier ones still run 30-32 min.
In Sprint ITU Edmonton, Male won in 54:52, female won in 1:01:23. Worst male was 59:58. Same for Olympic distance events.
Sprint ITU Edmonton was draft legal. The female winner would've beaten 59:58 had she been in the men's race.
Interesting!
Shaq wrote:
lrc vett wrote:
So a bunch of people have given examples that meet the criteria and in typical LRC fashion, the weak try to do mental gymnastics to explain why they don't count. Sounds about right.
Or was I trying to promote top women?
Weird. I haven't seen you promote any top women in your posts.
shaqattaq wrote:
Shaq wrote:
Or was I trying to promote top women?
Weird. I haven't seen you promote any top women in your posts.
I dont know of any im trying to figure out if there are any sharkeesha
Shaq wrote:
shaqattaq wrote:
Weird. I haven't seen you promote any top women in your posts.
I dont know of any im trying to figure out if there are any sharkeesha
There have been some posted in this thread. You just hate women.
shaqattaq wrote:
Shaq wrote:
I dont know of any im trying to figure out if there are any sharkeesha
There have been some posted in this thread. You just hate women.
Mam. Calm Down. Dont let your emotions control you
Women's 75+kg Olympic weightlifting class records are better than either the 56 or 62 kg men's Olympic weightlifting class records.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Olympic_records_in_weightlifting
zxcvzxcv wrote:
Women's 75+kg Olympic weightlifting class records are better than either the 56 or 62 kg men's Olympic weightlifting class records.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Olympic_records_in_weightlifting
No, I've heard that Zhou Lulu is a man, so I don't think this counts.
Also, when you are 56 or 62kg you are not a man. You are a boy. Notice the significant jump when you get into even 69kg?
152 pound Bulgarian guy lifts 432 pounds over his head. That's man power!
It depends on what you call a sport. Bowling, poker?
It depends also on what you call a pro. Alexi Pappas constantly says that she is a pro athlete, so I guess I am too. We both get lapped and DFL.
In the equestrian events where muscles are less important (dressage) the women are equal to the men. At the 2016 Olympics women took all three medals in individual dressage.
Harambe wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
Pompously.
I notice you've conveniently stopped arguing your points. Glad we could put an end to that, at least.
Thanks for seeing the light, always good when I can influence a developing mind.
You could always start with your own.
v678 wrote:
Armstronglivs wrote:
Other women regularly beat Williams. I used to see local schoolboys play visiting world-ranked pro women and beat them. Men's and women's tennis are different universes.
Mixed doubles sure are weird, then.
And how many singles matches do we see between men and women pro's? Come back when you've seen some.
zxcvzxcv wrote:
Women's 75+kg Olympic weightlifting class records are better than either the 56 or 62 kg men's Olympic weightlifting class records.
Interesting, people weighing more than 165 ibs are stronger than people who weigh 120-130 ibs. I would've never guessed that.
Janja Garnbret can beat some of the top 10 male competition climbers almost any day, and on some routes, on some days, she could possibly beat the best male. Rock climbing is very egalitarian for women.
Lynn Hill was the first person, male or female, to free climb the most famous route in the world, the Nose on El Capitan. Many top men had tried.
Who knew!?!?!?!?! wrote:
zxcvzxcv wrote:
Women's 75+kg Olympic weightlifting class records are better than either the 56 or 62 kg men's Olympic weightlifting class records.
Interesting, people weighing more than 165 ibs are stronger than people who weigh 120-130 ibs. I would've never guessed that.
Actually the person that owns the womens 75+ record (Zhou Lulu) is 309 pounds. So it seems a woman of 309 pounds can lift more than a guy weighing in at 120 pounds.